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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby Marty Moose » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:13 pm

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southeastD wrote:Oh, I have tried everything, oil, grease, loosen the screws. The screws on mine barely touches the cleats and I still have issues clipping in. It's ridiculous. The store are happy to give me a replacement and I might do that. I suspect the cleat supplied may have had a circlip that's overly too tight out of the factory.


Didn't put the C-springs in upside down, did you?

Are you sure the base plate is flat?? Use a straight edge to check it mine are really easy to clip in and out of. Something is not right. Mine are zeros.

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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby twizzle » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:43 pm

Marty Moose wrote:Are you sure the base plate is flat?? Use a straight edge to check it mine are really easy to clip in and out of. Something is not right. Mine are zeros.


Good call - even when using the correct shims under the base plate, often there is still a gap. My current shoes weren't compatible with the provided shims, instead of trying to find a way of ordering the alternative shims, I ended up putting sandpaper on the shoe and rubbing away the high spots on the shims to get it flat. Not perfect, but close enough.
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby NeillS » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:46 pm

Yeah they shouldn't be that hard to clip in to. Only three things are possible here;

1) baseplate not completely flat. Check with straight-edge
2) spring clips in the wrong way
3) Thighs not strong enough :D
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby toppity » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:08 pm

sounds like so many things to think about.

Just buy some Keywins, the lightest pedal going, screw them in to your cranks, fit the cleat to any shoe, click the cleats into the pedals and ride your bike. :D
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby Rich-Ti » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:56 pm

I've been on and off Speedplay for a few years now. Finally tried Shimano after almost two years back on Speedplay - never has my pedal stroke felt so solid and supported. The pedals are cheaper, and the cleats are MUCH cheaper. I've sold all of my Speedplay stuff now.
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby jcjordan » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:29 pm

Rich-Ti wrote:I've been on and off Speedplay for a few years now. Finally tried Shimano after almost two years back on Speedplay - never has my pedal stroke felt so solid and supported. The pedals are cheaper, and the cleats are MUCH cheaper. I've sold all of my Speedplay stuff now.


Cleats may be cheaper as individual but I replace speeplay once every 9 months and shimano every 4week's
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby Rich-Ti » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:41 am

True. Kind of irrelevant compared to the platform stability though.
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby jcjordan » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:45 am

Rich-Ti wrote:True. Kind of irrelevant compared to the platform stability though.

Actually it does play to suitably. My problem with shimano cleats was that after s couple of weeks they were no longer reliable in terms of connecting to the pedal. Would regularly pull my foot out when sprinting. Never done this in speedplay
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby Dr_Mutley » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:30 pm

twizzle wrote:
NeillS wrote:Regarding the float...


I don't need the float as such, I need a pedal which can handle my twisted tibia. Even with 12mm longer axles, my heels almost rub the cranks.

and your worried about being Euro-cool? ;-)

With regards to setup, I wouldnt think there is anymore setup with SPs than other pedal systems (ie screw on baseplate, and screw on cleat; put pedal in bike). The next step, the bike fit, is where SPs are much easier to setup than most other pedal systems. Fore/aft, rotation, and medial/lateral placement are all independent adjustments of each other, unlike other plastic 3hole cleat systems. You also don't have the issue of cleats moving when tightening them up.

Definitely more preventative maintenance upkeep of the SPs, which only takes 2 seconds every week or so...
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby Dr_Mutley » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:42 pm

Rich-Ti wrote:True. Kind of irrelevant compared to the platform stability though.


I agree wholeheartedly here. Even with new SP zeros and cleats, with no float dialled in, the platform stability will never approximate that of look or shimano no float systems
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby twizzle » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:45 pm

Dr_Mutley wrote:
Rich-Ti wrote:True. Kind of irrelevant compared to the platform stability though.


I agree wholeheartedly here. Even with new SP zeros and cleats, with no float dialled in, the platform stability will never approximate that of look or shimano no float systems


Yes, but the commuters on them all look like idiots as they struggle to clip in when taking off from lights. :twisted: Yay for double-sided!

And I tried out the "keep on kovers", dead after nine weeks, not cost effective.
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Re: Another Speedplay vs.. question

Postby doggatas » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:31 pm

My pedal history plays out something like this:

Shimano 105
Speedplay Zeros
Shimano ultegra
Look keo blades 16nm
Shimano dura ace 9000

Best pedals so far(when new) are the look blades. After a few thousand km's they wear out and become loose(yes I replaced the cleats), I have had two sets. Also when you crash and slide the bit that sits proud of the pedal body shears down.

Haven't received my 9000s yet but from all reports they are the bomb, if my ultegras were anything to go these will be beauts. Only reason I went with the looks because the ultegras were worn after many km's and a mate suggested them.

Now onto the speedplays: maintenance issues aside I just never felt completely stable/connected to them. In saying that they are incredibly easy to clip in and out of. I put them on my misses bike for this very reason.
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