That is the right choice I reckon. Deep carbon wheels are great for high speed racing, but that is about all they are great for.DANger-is wrote:Cheers for your thoughts guys, I've decided to go aluminium. I think for my style of riding they will fit the bill best, I will miss the bling look of the carbons though
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Re: Which wheel material will be best
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Re: Which wheel material will be best
Postby ValleyForge » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:29 pm
Good call. I've cranked out ~18K on my alloy wheels and they still have perfect bearings and braking surface life in them. And they are bomb-proof.DANger-is wrote:Cheers for your thoughts guys, I've decided to go aluminium. I think for my style of riding they will fit the bill best, I will miss the bling look of the carbons though
I still get a teensy bit nervous on my carbons in winter in the dark on a road I'm not completely familiar with.
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Re: Which wheel material will be best
Postby winstonw » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:01 pm
according to my wheelbuilder, the hubs Shimano makes available (105, ultegra, etc) to the public are not the same hubs their factory wheelsets are made from.Nobody wrote:Generic by type, in other words parts to fit standard round spokes.winstonw wrote:For my money, the best value for money wheels are those with generic components that can be easily replaced for a decade.For low spoke count propriety wheels, I agree. But higher spoke count Shimano hubs and Mavic rims are popular in real world cycling applications.winstonw wrote:This won't include Shimano, Fulcrum, Mavic, none of which supply parts for that long.
I believe I know what you are saying, I just added a bit for clarity.
he gave me the impression once an ultegra, RS80, or C24 wheelset had a failed hub, it could not be repaired due to lack of availability of compatible hubs.
would be interested in others' experience.
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Re: Which wheel material will be best
Postby biker jk » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:20 pm
No they are not the same hubs as in Shimano wheelsets. These are low spoke count (16f, 20r) and use straight pull spokes. The Shimano hubs sold to the public are high spoke count and designed for traditional J-bend spokes.winstonw wrote:
according to my wheelbuilder, the hubs Shimano makes available (105, ultegra, etc) to the public are not the same hubs their factory wheelsets are made from.
he gave me the impression once an ultegra, RS80, or C24 wheelset had a failed hub, it could not be repaired due to lack of availability of compatible hubs.
would be interested in others' experience.
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Re: Which wheel material will be best
Postby Nobody » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:46 pm
+1biker jk wrote:No they are not the same hubs as in Shimano wheelsets. These are low spoke count (16f, 20r) and use straight pull spokes. The Shimano hubs sold to the public are high spoke count and designed for traditional J-bend spokes.
That is true from what I can see, but you can sometimes buy spokes and hub spares if you can justify the expense.winstonw wrote:he gave me the impression once an ultegra, RS80, or C24 wheelset had a failed hub, it could not be repaired due to lack of availability of compatible hubs.
would be interested in others' experience.
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Re: Which wheel material will be best
Postby Duck! » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:37 pm
The hub shells are different, to suit the different lacing patterns, but the internals are the same.biker jk wrote:No they are not the same hubs as in Shimano wheelsets. These are low spoke count (16f, 20r) and use straight pull spokes. The Shimano hubs sold to the public are high spoke count and designed for traditional J-bend spokes.winstonw wrote:
according to my wheelbuilder, the hubs Shimano makes available (105, ultegra, etc) to the public are not the same hubs their factory wheelsets are made from.
he gave me the impression once an ultegra, RS80, or C24 wheelset had a failed hub, it could not be repaired due to lack of availability of compatible hubs.
would be interested in others' experience.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.
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Re: Which wheel material will be best
Postby g-boaf » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:57 pm
True - but they are a pain to live with in poor weather. I swapped my giant back to alloy wheels it came with (unused) and swapped the pads over too. The carbon clinchers are not fun in the rain, I've had a few occasions where I've been thinking "stop!!!!!"Dimis wrote:Agreed, no one "needs" carbon wheels.g-boaf wrote:I don't see the need for those carbon wheels.
50mm are not too bad in cross winds - I'm only 60kg and don't have troubles with them. But for ordinary riding, they are not really any benefit. You could get a nice light set of alloy wheels and do better.
But be honest, they look damn sexy and they are "usually" lighter in those sizes anyway which makes 'em quicker up a hill.
Just saying.
The weight difference doesn't bother me too much. The 50mm I have are very slightly heavier than the Giant PSL-0 alloy wheels I have. I'll see what difference they are at higher speeds soon enough.
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