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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby nezumi » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:07 pm

mitchy_ wrote:by your logic, wouldn't riding a CX bike and being able to keep up with roadies mean that you are becoming a better/stronger/faster rider?


Even better, if you like the group but are finding the ride too easy, switch to a CX bike from a roadie to make yourself work harder!
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby singlespeedscott » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:42 pm

simonn wrote:Just because they look a little like road bikes, doesn't make them so.


I beg to differ. A cyclocross bike with a good set of wheels and tyres will be perfectly fine for general road riding.

The geometry is not too dissimilar to bikes from a road race bike from the 50's and 60's. Slightly slacker geometry does not make for a slower bike.

I certainly know it's not my old steel road bikes that are holding me back when riding with a group.
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby simonn » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:13 pm

If you are riding with a group where you need every advantage you can get you are going to get more out of the ride, on every level, if you can hang on than if you get dropped. There are a few groups I know I would have no chance staying on when riding my CX as it is.

Sure, if I turned my CX into a road bike then I might be able to, but is really still a CX if I do that? Besides, if I forked out for a top end set of wheels, I'd rather do it on my good roadie which would (hypothetically) be faster still.

In any case, my experience is that I am noticeably slower on my CX than on my roadie. Up to others what, if anything, they want to do with it.
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby mitchy_ » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:56 pm

simonn wrote:If you are riding with a group where you need every advantage you can get you are going to get more out of the ride, on every level, if you can hang on than if you get dropped. There are a few groups I know I would have no chance staying on when riding my CX as it is.

Sure, if I turned my CX into a road bike then I might be able to, but is really still a CX if I do that? Besides, if I forked out for a top end set of wheels, I'd rather do it on my good roadie which would (hypothetically) be faster still.

In any case, my experience is that I am noticeably slower on my CX than on my roadie. Up to others what, if anything, they want to do with it.


the original question was asking if a CX would be suitable as they are not in a position to buy a road bike. not would you ride a CX bike if you had a roadie.

it also comes down to the bike. my CX bike with 25mm tyres weighs in at sub 7kg, less than a few road bikes...
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby warthog1 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:00 pm

Less than most roadies I reckon. Less than mine for sure.
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby mitchy_ » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:07 pm

warthog1 wrote:Less than most roadies I reckon. Less than mine for sure.


i bet my wallet is lighter too. :(
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby warthog1 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:59 pm

mitchy_ wrote:
i bet my wallet is lighter too. :(


:lol:
I don't know, teenage kids are giving mine a hammering.
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby Pravda » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:09 pm

You'll be fine on a cx bike as long as you chuck on road tyres. I use mine in my regular group rides in winter. It isn't quite as fast mainly due to the geometry but it's a training ride so that means better training. It wont bd the difference between you getting dropped or not. Thats all down to the motor.

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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby Hugor » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:17 pm

As a bit of a clyde (>100kgs) with a history of breaking frames and wheels, using a cx bike on the road appealed to me on many fronts.
I have a cheap steel cx bike that I use on the road at the moment (Surly Crosscheck) with Racing Zeros and I hold my own in the groups I ride with.
I would like a lighter bike cause we all want to be quicker!

The main advantages to me of using a cx bike is the slacker geometry, stronger frame and ability to use disc brakes.
I'm not comfortable on aggressive road bikes in fact I almost never use the drops.
I'm looking at high end cx bikes which weigh comparably to high end road bikes when kitted out with decent road componentry.

I'm thinking this bike should be just as quick as its roadie brethren, but I'm happy to be educated otherwise.
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby boss » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:58 am

Hugor wrote:As a bit of a clyde (>100kgs) with a history of breaking frames and wheels, using a cx bike on the road appealed to me on many fronts.
I have a cheap steel cx bike that I use on the road at the moment (Surly Crosscheck) with Racing Zeros and I hold my own in the groups I ride with.
I would like a lighter bike cause we all want to be quicker!

The main advantages to me of using a cx bike is the slacker geometry, stronger frame and ability to use disc brakes.
I'm not comfortable on aggressive road bikes in fact I almost never use the drops.
I'm looking at high end cx bikes which weigh comparably to high end road bikes when kitted out with decent road componentry.

I'm thinking this bike should be just as quick as its roadie brethren, but I'm happy to be educated otherwise.


The only thing I'd mention is that OEM wheels on CX bikes are junk and heavy as hell. And it's hard to find light, reasonably priced wheels with disc-hubs.

At least 6 months ago, I could not find anything that resembled a DA C24 or Fulcrum Zero in terms of price to weight ratio.

And you'd be surprised how much a 2kg set of wheels taxes your power output!

Aside from that, stick a set of 25 or 28mm slicks on a CX bike and you've got yourself a capable roadie. The disc brake wheelset issue is the only thing holding me back from using my CX bike as fair weather bike... it's just too slow compared with my very middle-of-the-road-not-a-weight-weenie 5.2 Madone that's got a set of DA C24's.

P.S. If anyone knows anything about reasonably priced and light disc brake wheels for zee roadie, don't be quiet, I'm all ears!
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby simonn » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:34 pm

mitchy_ wrote:
simonn wrote:If you are riding with a group where you need every advantage you can get you are going to get more out of the ride, on every level, if you can hang on than if you get dropped. There are a few groups I know I would have no chance staying on when riding my CX as it is.

Sure, if I turned my CX into a road bike then I might be able to, but is really still a CX if I do that? Besides, if I forked out for a top end set of wheels, I'd rather do it on my good roadie which would (hypothetically) be faster still.

In any case, my experience is that I am noticeably slower on my CX than on my roadie. Up to others what, if anything, they want to do with it.


the original question was asking if a CX would be suitable as they are not in a position to buy a road bike. not would you ride a CX bike if you had a roadie.


Well if you want to play he said she said, then you may notice that I said in my post prior to the one above...

simonn wrote:However, if you only own a CX, you do not have the choice to ride a roadie.


I'm not the only one who has a CX that is slower than their roadie(s) on this thread.

Anyway... nezumi, if you only have the one bike, just go along and ride. Most groups I have ridden with do not really seem to care what others are riding. If you can't keep up, then start thinking about changing things.
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Re: CX bike on a road training ride

Postby mitchy_ » Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:02 pm

boss wrote:
Hugor wrote:P.S. If anyone knows anything about reasonably priced and light disc brake wheels for zee roadie, don't be quiet, I'm all ears!


look at 29er XC wheels, can get them down in the realms of 14-1600 grams.
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