Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

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Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby GAV!N » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:24 am

Very interesting! For those saying stages have nothing going for them and are nothing but an accessory for those wanting to say they 'have a power meter', they must have SOMETHING going for them, if Team Sky are going to use them exclusively this year.

http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290, ... 30,00.html

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby biker jk » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:21 am

It's called sponsorship. Team Sky use Pinarello Dogmas but the riders don't like the bikes. So whether a Pro Team uses a particular brand of equipment is not really a recommendation.

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby GAV!N » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:41 am

Yes, but would a team as big as Sky sacrifice so much technology over some sponsorship?? Would they risk Froome or Porte not having somewhat accurate power when climbing in a Grand Tour?

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby Nobody » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:47 am

A good example of the effectiveness of the pro team marketing machine. I think most of us are prone to it to some degree as we don't know exactly what's tested and chosen to go faster, versus what the team is paid to ride.

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby Homo Suburbiensis » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:45 pm

biker jk wrote:It's called sponsorship. Team Sky use Pinarello Dogmas but the riders don't like the bikes. So whether a Pro Team uses a particular brand of equipment is not really a recommendation.


How do you know team sky riders don't like their Dogmas?

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby liamb » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:45 pm

might be a bit hard to hide the use of the other Power meters. SRM cranks with stages arms??. I suspect the only team members who will get their knicker in a knot about this are the training staff when pour over the numbers. The riders will not know if the numbers are + or - 1% of the others.

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby scirocco » Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:45 pm

GAV!N wrote:Yes, but would a team as big as Sky sacrifice so much technology over some sponsorship?? Would they risk Froome or Porte not having somewhat accurate power when climbing in a Grand Tour?


Perhaps they've done the research and found that they are not that inaccurate after all. And if they know if a particular rider has an imbalance they can adjust the reading for it.

Anyway, like lot of measurements the absolute number doesn't matter all that much. All that matters for the sports science boys is how today's number compares to yesterday and the day before, and Stages won't be significantly worse than a SRM at measuring that.

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby dalai47 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:25 pm

scirocco wrote:Anyway, like lot of measurements the absolute number doesn't matter all that much. All that matters for the sports science boys is how today's number compares to yesterday and the day before, and Stages won't be significantly worse than a SRM at measuring that.


Just doubling the left leg power; enough studies have shown pedaling asymmetry exists and varies depending on exertion... i.e http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10460126

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby GAV!N » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:03 pm

Homo Suburbiensis wrote:
biker jk wrote:It's called sponsorship. Team Sky use Pinarello Dogmas but the riders don't like the bikes. So whether a Pro Team uses a particular brand of equipment is not really a recommendation.


How do you know team sky riders don't like their Dogmas?


They can send them my way if they don't like them! :p The only thing I know of is Wiggin's little dummy spit during the Giro, but I thought that was to do with the groupset???

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby biker jk » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:29 pm

GAV!N wrote:
Homo Suburbiensis wrote:
biker jk wrote:It's called sponsorship. Team Sky use Pinarello Dogmas but the riders don't like the bikes. So whether a Pro Team uses a particular brand of equipment is not really a recommendation.


How do you know team sky riders don't like their Dogmas?


They can send them my way if they don't like them! :p The only thing I know of is Wiggin's little dummy spit during the Giro, but I thought that was to do with the groupset???


The complaints have revolved around the heavy frame versus competitors. Admittedly Pinarello have shaved some weight with the more recent model. My point was that equipment use by pro teams is governed mainly by sponsorship rather than quality.

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby g-boaf » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:08 pm

Surely those frames must be near the weight limit, or on the weight limit? :?:

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby Stefan_A » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:03 am

How many tennis players wore black this week in the Melbourne heat wave?

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby Farmer Elvis » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:37 pm

Stefan_A wrote:How many tennis players wore black this week in the Melbourne heat wave?

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby Farmer Elvis » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:37 pm

Stefan_A wrote:How many tennis players wore black this week in the Melbourne heat wave?

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Re: Team Sky using Stages exclusively for 2014

Postby biker jk » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:12 pm

g-boaf wrote:Surely those frames must be near the weight limit, or on the weight limit? :?:


No, the frames were on the heavy side. Back in 2010, Sky met with Pinarello to get the weight down. This was when they weighed 1200g. Still, even the Dogma 2 came in well above the UCI weight limit of 6.8kg.

http://www.bikeradar.com/au/road/gear/article/pro-bike-geraint-thomass-pinarello-dogma-2-36254/

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