11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

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11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby Deus_Ex_Machina » Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:38 am

Hi All,
Mega noob here. So most of my riding is on relatively flat ground as I'm training primarily to do more triathlons. I currently run a 50/34 front and 11-28T rear and spend 99% of my time on the large front ring. I find I feel best at a cadence of 90-95 however often find myself wishing the gears about halfway up the rear cassette were closer together. When I hit a slight rise or headwind if I stay in gear I start slowing to low to mid 80's which starts too feel too "grindy" and drop a gear and up I shoot up to 100 which feels too "spinny".

I'm a long way from topping out the top end and don't need the low end so am wondering what might be a good option to tighten up the mid range?

Assuming the choices for what is currently a 105 setup would be the Ultegra cassettes?

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Re: 11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby NASHIE » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:18 pm

Nothing noob mate,I would grab a 12-23 if 10 speed or a 12-25 if 11 speed. That should give you the best mid range set of gears. If you miss the 11 bump to a 51 or 52 up front. We often make up cassettes to get that sweet set of gears for different courses on road and cyclocross races. You just have to grind of the rivets, source the right gears and build to suit. Starting with a 12tooth small cassette helps close that midrange gap.

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Re: 11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby Derny Driver » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:12 pm

NASHIE wrote:Nothing noob mate,I would grab a 12-23 if 10 speed or a 12-25 if 11 speed. That should give you the best mid range set of gears. If you miss the 11 bump to a 51 or 52 up front. We often make up cassettes to get that sweet set of gears for different courses on road and cyclocross races. You just have to grind of the rivets, source the right gears and build to suit. Starting with a 12tooth small cassette helps close that midrange gap.
I agree with this. Start with a 12

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Re: 11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby Deus_Ex_Machina » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:30 am

OK cool, I'm 11 speed so 12-25 sounds like the go. Yeah I only use the 11 going down a slight decline at full tilt which is rare (and stupid as I'm likely to come off lol) and spend almost no time on the small chainring. There is a 12-25T 105 5800 too so even I should be able to just swap that straight over :)

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Re: 11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby Derny Driver » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:58 am

Deus_Ex_Machina wrote: There is a 12-25T 105 5800 too so even I should be able to just swap that straight over :)
yep just swap it over.

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Re: 11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby Mububban » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:42 pm

Just for interest, what bike do you have? 50-34 and 11-28 is often an endurance bike?
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Re: 11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby AndrewCowley » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:01 pm

May sound extreme ... Ditch your 50-34 and get a 53-39 instead. Then you won’t be stuck on big + big all the time. You’ll actually be able to use the 39 unlike the 34.

I run a 50-39 front and 11-28 rear on my commute bike. Works well for mostly flat terrain. Used to run a 50-34 but got sick of being forced to grind on the 50 all the time.

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Re: 11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby craigg » Thu May 09, 2019 6:59 pm

AndrewCowley wrote:May sound extreme ... Ditch your 50-34 and get a 53-39 instead. Then you won’t be stuck on big + big all the time. You’ll actually be able to use the 39 unlike the 34.

I run a 50-39 front and 11-28 rear on my commute bike. Works well for mostly flat terrain. Used to run a 50-34 but got sick of being forced to grind on the 50 all the time.
Changing the chainrings I think will also help, but to preserve your existing investment in 110BCD I'd recommend 52/36.

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Re: 11-28T vs 11-25T vs 11-23T For flat cadence driven riding

Postby Duck! » Thu May 09, 2019 9:40 pm

craigg wrote:
Changing the chainrings I think will also help, but to preserve your existing investment in 110BCD I'd recommend 52/36.
Makes no difference, the 11-sp. cranks use the same spider for all ring combinations.
I had a thought, but it got run over as it crossed my mind.

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