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OT Rapid weight loss - Biggest Loser - a few harsh facts

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:26 pm
by gdl_gdl
For anybody who is encouraged to think that rapid weight loss is the way to go (and with TV shows like Biggest Loser promoting such behaviour) a few words from Health experts that might make you re-consider.....

Biggest Loser

Cheers,

Gary

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:46 pm
by DrEvil123
The Sydney Morning Herald had a similar article today too. Saying that it is giving unrealistic expectations of weight loss and that it just isn't possible to exercise for the amount that they did on the show.

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:43 pm
by Mulger bill
It's easy to lose weight like that, all you need is months away from home, work and family and an instructor, dietician and medic right to hand to make sure you don't kill yourself trying :roll:

I think I'd rather just ride...

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:52 pm
by pospete
Mulger bill wrote:It's easy to lose weight like that, all you need is months away from home, work and family and an instructor, dietician and medic right to hand to make sure you don't kill yourself trying :roll:

I think I'd rather just ride...




Yes I'dd rather ride too, unfortunatly though I'll just have to cycle! :lol:

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:18 pm
by Mulger bill
*hunting for a suitably disciplinary smiley*

I can see you're not the Messiah... :twisted:

Shaun

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:30 pm
by Halfanewb
Mulger bill wrote:It's easy to lose weight like that, all you need is months away from home, work and family and an instructor, dietician and medic right to hand to make sure you don't kill yourself trying :roll:

I think I'd rather just ride...
:lol:

Yea i hear ya , i've given the strict dieting a bit of a miss for the last few weeks, as a result i've only lost .3kg's but the shape of the jelly belly is changing and i feel much stronger on the bike so i'm consoling myself and putting it down to muscle gain. I'm sure that the body needs some time to re-establish itself every so often, after all it needs to deconstruct all the blood vessels etc. When the new bike comp turns up i'm going to revamp the approach and make use of all those features and get back to calorie counting!

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:54 pm
by gururug
OK, now i'm worried im going too hard.

What is a level thats not too rapid, say 2pts bmi per month?

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:02 pm
by Mulger bill
I've read somewhere that a kg a week is good, sustainable loss. You may go a bit more early on as you harden up a bit. My best ever about 12 years back was about 2.2, but most of that was prolly sweat :?

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:05 pm
by ShanDog
I once lost 7.5kgs in a week. Although I wouldn't recommend anyone else get food poisoning as well haha :D

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:29 am
by beauyboy
As my other half watches this show in turn I end up watching it. This time there is a difference compared with past series. Bob and Jillian Trained the contestents for weight lose and muscle gain where the two aussie trainers are training for weight lose alone, not healthy at all! This is the reason why I think Bob and Jillian came back for one week. The guy that is leading atm has lose a major amount of weight but does not look like good weight lost. His arms are tiny when they should be getting defination.

I look at this show atm and thing give it two months after the final and they will be big again!

Donald

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:33 am
by ShanDog
beauyboy wrote:I look at this show atm and thing give it two months after the final and they will be big again!


I think (at least in regards to the top two/three contestants) that they have a private deal in the contract to keep them training for a while after the show. That way when they get media contracts like with that pedro guy for subway, it still looks like they've kept the weight off. Then once they become nobody's and they're not making any money for the network anymore they'll probably get dumped and get big again.

Shannon

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:44 am
by sogood
You guys actually watch that show?!? :shock:

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:56 am
by tuco
sogood wrote:You guys actually watch that show?!? :shock:


I agree, it's a tragic waste of air time but then that's coming from someone who hardly watches TV unless it involves sport.

If the produces really wanted to help people rather than making so called 'entertainment' then they'd follow the lives of people over 6 to 12 months showing how they can make easy adjustments to their lives and still lose weight.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:07 am
by MJF
My kids (8 & 6) and my wife watch it. The wife & I take great effort to instruct the kids that this is NOT the way to lose weight, and that the contestants are likely to be doing long term damage to themselves. Hopefully, it will sink in.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:24 am
by mikesbytes
The ultimate aim is to be as healthy as possible. Removing excess fat is one component of health.

Personally I believe that it is better to loose the fat gradually, rather than suddenly.

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:33 am
by ShanDog
sogood wrote:You guys actually watch that show?!? :shock:


haha only once a week because when I get home on mondays the first thing i do is watch tv for an hour to unwind before doing something else and it just happens to be on.

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:08 pm
by heavymetal
sogood wrote:You guys actually watch that show?!? :shock:


I can't stand watching TV :D The best show from the TV I ever saw was when I stuffed it down the toilet while it was running. The fireworks show was amazing. :shock:

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:29 pm
by rider06
I don't really watch the show, however if jillian wanted to come over and help me train i would have no complaints whatsoever...

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:11 pm
by Mulger bill
Only 'cos the GLW won't let me light the XBox.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:15 pm
by pospete
sbra9635 wrote:I once lost 7.5kgs in a week. Although I wouldn't recommend anyone else get food poisoning as well haha :D








Yes well, for a different reason, been there allready! which is actually bizarre when I got really sick, I weighed just under 60Kgs, and it's taken me 2 years to get my weight up again

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:11 am
by ShanDog
pospete wrote:
sbra9635 wrote:I once lost 7.5kgs in a week. Although I wouldn't recommend anyone else get food poisoning as well haha :D



Yes well, for a different reason, been there allready! which is actually bizarre when I got really sick, I weighed just under 60Kgs, and it's taken me 2 years to get my weight up again


I actually had a similar situation. although it only took me 7 mths to get back. It's funny how you kinda get stuck below your normal weight.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:17 am
by Aussteve2712
It's funny how you kinda get stuck below your normal weight.


:( I seem to have the opposite problem in that I get stuck above my normal weight.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:57 am
by sogood
sbra9635 wrote:
sogood wrote:You guys actually watch that show?!? :shock:


haha only once a week because when I get home on mondays the first thing i do is watch tv for an hour to unwind before doing something else and it just happens to be on.

Try a different channel next time! :wink:

There are 4 other free to air or 6 free to air digital channels to choose from. Surely anything is better than that show, even the Simpsons. 8)

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:34 pm
by pospete
sbra9635 wrote:
pospete wrote:
sbra9635 wrote:I once lost 7.5kgs in a week. Although I wouldn't recommend anyone else get food poisoning as well haha :D



Yes well, for a different reason, been there allready! which is actually bizarre when I got really sick, I weighed just under 60Kgs, and it's taken me 2 years to get my weight up again


I actually had a similar situation. although it only took me 7 mths to get back. It's funny how you kinda get stuck below your normal weight.




Yup, , of course with my Viral load being so high, pre meds, probably not helping. Being 6ft 3, and weighing 60kgs, I looked like a stick( but a very goodlooking stick :wink: ) Yes it took a long time to get the weight back to normalish

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:35 pm
by pospete
sogood wrote:
sbra9635 wrote:
sogood wrote:You guys actually watch that show?!? :shock:


haha only once a week because when I get home on mondays the first thing i do is watch tv for an hour to unwind before doing something else and it just happens to be on.

Try a different channel next time! :wink:

There are 4 other free to air or 6 free to air digital channels to choose from. Surely anything is better than that show, even the Simpsons. 8)


I don't want to sound "ist" about something, but I figure I see enough obese people on the train that I just can't( forgive the pun) stomach watching them on the idiot fish tank when there's far better quality programs such as

1 King of the Hill
2 Simpsons
3 Futurama

:lol: