The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

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Postby jasonc » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:49 pm

outnabike wrote:A new member to the forum would wonder at these statements. and then because others can't quite agree with you , follow it all up with a nice little ridicule session against other members.
Just seems like bad form.

I will leave this thread alone, I didn't intend to bag any one but just could not condone the implied ill feeling towards what is after all just two people going out for a walk. I just keep seeing my wife and daughter out there and realise the amount of hatred out there in store for them. And we complain when motorists do the wrong thing?


my comment was inappropriate. sometimes frustrations get written down.
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Postby roobab » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:51 pm

Hi, Juls21 , what would you estimate your speed on that section of the MYT?
I know it is a nice downhill section and there is a tendency to 'fang' it there,
but it is one of the most dangerous sections as there is an entry/exit there as well.

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Postby Lukeyboy » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:04 pm

outnabike wrote:
Lukeyboy wrote: Friendly banter didn't register with this one.
..... Your first statement was not really very nice though.

Knock her out of the way next time with your elbow :evil: .......no smiley there... and we are talking about violence to a woman here.


Lukeyboy wrote:Knock her out of the way next time with your elbow :twisted:


Enhance *types on keyboard*

Lukeyboy wrote:with your elbow :twisted:


Enhance *types on keyboard*

Lukeyboy wrote::twisted:


Houston..... we have a twisted smiley.

And that's the problem with online forums. One person can take what you say as a joke which can be instant/followed up by the next few posts or they can take great offence. If someone is new to the forum its the same as someone meeting other friends of your friend. They might joke around and they see it as banter while you might see it and take it another way. If they read the next few posts they could have worked out it was just banter by the way I followed up the post of "wait, you were joking weren't you?" with "............................ ummm.... maybe (multiple :lol: smilies)". Alot of the people that post in this thread always throw around banter. If someone steps out into our path by not looking someone will say either the op or someone else jokingly you should of just hit them. The same over in the the moron motorist thread. Someone gets a close shave with a passing car and banter about knocking their side mirror off/kick or punch to the side panel of the car usually folows. Just because we joke about it doesn't mean we actualy do it or condone it.

And what difference does it make that she's a woman? All you have done by repeating "violence against women" over and over is made it sound like it would have been fine if it was a guy but a woman... oooooooooooooooooooo you can't say that. What annoys me about those ads/campaigns are that it only addresses voilence to one particular group. What about violence against men? What about violence in same sex relationships? Bottom line is violence against anyone isn't good.

If you have taken offence to anything I have said then I appologise for that.

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Postby 98octane » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:22 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:
jules21 wrote:
i know some people will say i should yield here, and as a rule i do - what i post here are the exceptions - but this lady p'd me off with her attitude. she is an idiot to think walking on the wrong side of the path and sticking her elbow out to block cyclists is some kind of community service.

for those not familiar, this is the Main Yarra Trail in melbourne - highway 1 for cyclists. she knows what she's doing.


Knock her out of the way next time with your elbow :twisted:


Tempting, but I think some choice words would suffice. Her behaviour is made worse because that's a particularly dangerous part of the MYT - it's narrow, bumpy and fast.

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Postby 98octane » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:32 pm

roobab wrote:Hi, Juls21 , what would you estimate your speed on that section of the MYT?
I know it is a nice downhill section and there is a tendency to 'fang' it there,
but it is one of the most dangerous sections as there is an entry/exit there as well.


It's fine to fang it there so long as there's no/little traffic. I reckon plenty go 35-45kph through there. The entry/exit is about 100m further under the bridge.

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Postby Mulger bill » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:50 pm

Jules, you reckon you could link to a GMap of the area in question? I reckon personal experience is no qualification for passing judgement on teh interwebz but what the hey. That section looks like fun :? :o :cry: :?: :) (I think one of them applies...)

Note that I'm not interested in ever copying your experience with that MGIF moron in the other idiots thread. The video was all anyone would need to lobby the council to ban on street parking in that area.

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Postby jules21 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:03 pm

roobab wrote:Hi, Juls21 , what would you estimate your speed on that section of the MYT?
I know it is a nice downhill section and there is a tendency to 'fang' it there,
but it is one of the most dangerous sections as there is an entry/exit there as well.

about 30 km/h. it's not dangerous when you're approaching people keeping to the left, and vice versa. i had plenty of time to slow down and take evasive action, but when it became clear she was playing chicken with me, i chose not to.

in other circumstances, i won't hesitate to come to a full stop. i do it regularly, such as when there are kids around.

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Postby trailgumby » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:51 pm

jules21 wrote:
roobab wrote:Hi, Juls21 , what would you estimate your speed on that section of the MYT?
I know it is a nice downhill section and there is a tendency to 'fang' it there,
but it is one of the most dangerous sections as there is an entry/exit there as well.

about 30 km/h. it's not dangerous when you're approaching people keeping to the left, and vice versa. i had plenty of time to slow down and take evasive action, but when it became clear she was playing chicken with me, i chose not to.

in other circumstances, i won't hesitate to come to a full stop. i do it regularly, such as when there are kids around.

At the same time as she put the right elbow out, she was looking straight at the rider and actually stepped to her right further into the centre of the rider's path ... and then realised almost instantly that he wasn't about to be bluffed, and retreated.

Puts the probability of playing chicken well over the 50% mark for me.

I had a guy do that to me at St Leonards Park one evening, traversing the SUP behind North Sydney Oval. Walking with is wife/GF the tool looked me straight in the eye and veered directly into my path, forcing me to a stop, and had a go at me for "riding on the foot path". He backed off when I said "It's a shared path, ya goose! :x " Too dark for the Hero2, sadly.
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Postby fingy » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:45 pm

Mankini Man + friends with a police escort on todays ride :lol:
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Postby Aushiker » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:52 pm

fingy wrote:Mankini Man + friends with a police escort on todays ride :lol:


Fun video and thanks for sharing, but not sure why you posted it in this thread ... cannot work out what is dumb in it; maybe not my choice of attire but each to their own. Care to expand?

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Postby il padrone » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:54 pm

Not really "dumb". I'd guess they were riding to, or from, the Brisbane World Naked Bike Ride.

Or maybe they were part of it??

Assembly time is 1:30pm for body painting and media interviews, and ride takes off at 2pm down the bikepath right down to the former ABC Radio studios off Coronation Drive. We will have an after-ride drinks at the Regatta Hotel, where you can make new friends and help organise the next ride and other similar clothes free activities in Brisbane.
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Postby jules21 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:31 am

Mulger bill wrote:Jules, you reckon you could link to a GMap of the area in question?


shaun, it's heading west here.

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Postby Mulger bill » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:01 pm

Thanks Jules, looks like Victoria St to Walmer and onto the trail citybound will do nicely :) Would you say it's doable on a 75 GI Fixed or should I roll the commuter?

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Postby jules21 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:30 pm

Mulger bill wrote:Thanks Jules, looks like Victoria St to Walmer and onto the trail citybound will do nicely :) Would you say it's doable on a 75 GI Fixed or should I roll the commuter?

the only really steep bits are around walmer, specifically heading north (away from city), the river-side path is quite do-able.

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Postby g-boaf » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:09 pm

Picture the scene, nice day, dry, warm - very light breeze. Rolling along happily - watching where I'm going, approaching a downhill section.

Lady on bike-shaped-object going the other way approaching the crest going uphill following Man on bike-shaped-object as I'm approaching from the other direction. I could see them both going in a single line, but then right at last minute she decided to overtake going uphill. :shock: :shock: :shock:

Damn that was too close. :shock: Rest of the ride was uneventful.

fingy wrote:Mankini Man + friends with a police escort on todays ride :lol:


Some things cannot be unseen. :lol:

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Postby Kev365428 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:41 pm

This ped got a bit of a fright.



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Postby Aushiker » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:51 pm

Kev365428 wrote:This ped got a bit of a fright.


Quite a contrast to Jules' friend :wink:

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Postby jules21 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:56 pm

Aushiker wrote:
Kev365428 wrote:This ped got a bit of a fright.


Quite a contrast to Jules' friend :wink:

yep, that's the difference between someone who hasn't seen you and someone playing games..

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Postby JBark » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:44 pm

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Yep, that's an adult and child riding on a tiny little kick scooter, heading downhill at a decent clip on the wrong side of the road (there is a footpath on the other side). Can you imagine the damage that kid would sustain in the event they catch a pothole with the front wheel and faceplant into the pavement?

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Postby Mulger bill » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:03 pm

jules21 wrote:
Mulger bill wrote:Thanks Jules, looks like Victoria St to Walmer and onto the trail citybound will do nicely :) Would you say it's doable on a 75 GI Fixed or should I roll the commuter?

the only really steep bits are around walmer, specifically heading north (away from city), the river-side path is quite do-able.


Thanks Jules, ended up using the commuter after discovering a turned brake block on the FG when I pulled it out of the shed :? It was fine when I put it in...

That's one nice bit of path that is, I can see why it's popular. Lots of people out riding today, plenty of family action too. Love seeing the smiles on the kids faces :D Excellent sight lines for the most part with plenty of room if everybody plays nice. (And some interesting looking unpaved off shoots that will be explored on a more suitable bike soon :) )

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Postby InTheWoods » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:27 am

Wow he really misjudged that one Aushiker...

Me this morning. Two slower cyclists in bike lane in front of me, enter road lane to overtake, get not really even entirely past the first and the light in front goes red. The other rider didn't make room (not that they are required to) so I had to hang in the road lane and wait for her to go past before dropping back into the bike lane. Probably should have put in more of an effort beforehand but don't normally get that light so thought I'd casually make my way past.

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Postby jasonc » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:42 am

InTheWoods wrote:Me this morning. Two slower cyclists in bike lane in front of me, enter road lane to overtake, get not really even entirely past the first and the light in front goes red. The other rider didn't make room (not that they are required to) so I had to hang in the road lane and wait for her to go past before dropping back into the bike lane. Probably should have put in more of an effort beforehand but don't normally get that light so thought I'd casually make my way past.


that's not silly. noone cut off, no one held up. no laws broken
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Postby InTheWoods » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:48 am

jasonc wrote:
InTheWoods wrote:Me this morning. Two slower cyclists in bike lane in front of me, enter road lane to overtake, get not really even entirely past the first and the light in front goes red. The other rider didn't make room (not that they are required to) so I had to hang in the road lane and wait for her to go past before dropping back into the bike lane. Probably should have put in more of an effort beforehand but don't normally get that light so thought I'd casually make my way past.


that's not silly. noone cut off, no one held up. no laws broken


It probably looked silly, I think the fact they weren't letting me in indicated annoyance.

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Postby zero » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:40 pm

Aushiker wrote:

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Video probably doesn't even have all of it since he was busy sideswiping the other cyclist with his dog box.

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