The older you get, the harder the ground is.GeoffInBrisbane wrote:Clearly at 31 I don't bounce like I did at 17, or even 25...
I had my first "off" 11 months ago, my shoulder still hurts some days.
Postby twizzle » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:34 am
The older you get, the harder the ground is.GeoffInBrisbane wrote:Clearly at 31 I don't bounce like I did at 17, or even 25...
Postby Dez » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:51 am
Postby bychosis » Wed Apr 03, 2013 6:39 am
Postby VRE » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:24 am
That pedestrian doesn't belong in this thread, then. The smarter pedestrians are those who bother to use lights when using shared paths in the dark. The colour of them just isn't worth being fussed about. The vast majority of them don't bother with lights, or even with reflective patches on their clothes. I was happy to note that as I rode along the Dandenong Creek Trail in the pre-dawn last weekend on my way to Mt Dandenong, there were several joggers using headband-mounted lights.bychosis wrote:Riding to work in the dark this morn. Thought I was catching another rider, could see the red blinky...but when I got close I noticed it was on the front of the cap of a pedestrian. I always thought red lights were for the back, oh well...
Postby il padrone » Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:58 am
Postby VRE » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:12 am
Postby il padrone » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:21 am
Postby jasonc » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:24 am
pedestrian with lights are great. considering they predominantly wear black. anything helps to distinguish the shadows...VRE wrote:That pedestrian doesn't belong in this thread, then. The smarter pedestrians are those who bother to use lights when using shared paths in the dark. The colour of them just isn't worth being fussed about. The vast majority of them don't bother with lights, or even with reflective patches on their clothes. I was happy to note that as I rode along the Dandenong Creek Trail in the pre-dawn last weekend on my way to Mt Dandenong, there were several joggers using headband-mounted lights.bychosis wrote:Riding to work in the dark this morn. Thought I was catching another rider, could see the red blinky...but when I got close I noticed it was on the front of the cap of a pedestrian. I always thought red lights were for the back, oh well...
Postby bychosis » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:49 am
Quite a few with reflective bits on their shoes, a couple with a little white light, the red lamp on the front just threw me a little because I was expecting a bike riding away from me and it suddenly turned into a ped walking towards me. I have no expectations for pedestrians to have any sort of light and ride accordingly, either very slow or using lots of light.jasonc wrote:pedestrian with lights are great. considering they predominantly wear black. anything helps to distinguish the shadows...VRE wrote:That pedestrian doesn't belong in this thread, then. The smarter pedestrians are those who bother to use lights when using shared paths in the dark. The colour of them just isn't worth being fussed about. The vast majority of them don't bother with lights, or even with reflective patches on their clothes. I was happy to note that as I rode along the Dandenong Creek Trail in the pre-dawn last weekend on my way to Mt Dandenong, there were several joggers using headband-mounted lights.bychosis wrote:Riding to work in the dark this morn. Thought I was catching another rider, could see the red blinky...but when I got close I noticed it was on the front of the cap of a pedestrian. I always thought red lights were for the back, oh well...
Postby il padrone » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:53 am
Some cyclists do this, from what others have told mebychosis wrote: the red lamp on the front just threw me a little because I was expecting a bike riding away from me and it suddenly turned into a ped walking towards me.
Postby jasonc » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:58 am
have seen a few in brissy - normally fixie ridersil padrone wrote:Some cyclists do this, from what others have told mebychosis wrote: the red lamp on the front just threw me a little because I was expecting a bike riding away from me and it suddenly turned into a ped walking towards me.
Death wish!!
Postby burger » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:15 am
Postby high_tea » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:21 am
I've seen them too. Confuses me no end. Dunno if it's actually dangerous, but I wish they wouldn't do it.il padrone wrote:Some cyclists do this, from what others have told mebychosis wrote: the red lamp on the front just threw me a little because I was expecting a bike riding away from me and it suddenly turned into a ped walking towards me.
Death wish!!
Postby Summernight » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:36 am
Postby il padrone » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:58 am
I'm pretty sure the danger of a mistaken ID and being clipped in a head-on is pretty high. But I'm even more sure that it is illegal.high_tea wrote:I've seen them too. Confuses me no end. Dunno if it's actually dangerous, but I wish they wouldn't do it.il padrone wrote:Some cyclists do this, from what others have told mebychosis wrote: the red lamp on the front just threw me a little because I was expecting a bike riding away from me and it suddenly turned into a ped walking towards me.
Death wish!!
Postby twizzle » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:03 pm
Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:27 pm
Hmmm. Why the touchy response. Because I do not agree?high_tea wrote:Sigh. I can buy bells as a convenience. I can buy bells as a courtesy. Bells as a safety device are hopelessly inadequate. The bell had better not be the only safety device, because it's bound to fail sooner or later.ColinOldnCranky wrote:No. Not wrong.high_tea wrote:Perhaps I could have put it better: if you need to bell-ping for safety, you're doing it wrong.
Even if doing things right, to be truly safe any system needs to assume that something can go wrong and so have second and third and more extra safeties built in.
There are plenty of times that a rider is wise to indicate their impending presence. And a bell is a fairly low-key and easy way of doing it. I trust that you are not using that argument to justify not fitting one.
What I do or don't do with my bikes is none of your concern, as well as being beside the point.
Postby MisuVir » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:34 pm
Postby mikesbytes » Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:30 am
Postby Summernight » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:44 am
Postby il padrone » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:49 am
Hmm.... about time this rule inconsistency was cleared up legally once and for all, and publicised widely to drivers.Summernight wrote:This morning I was in my car, waiting at the traffic lights to turn left (with indicator on). 3 or 4 cars are behind me waiting at the lights. There is a cycling lane, but it stops at the intersection......
.....Maybe if I'd completed my turn he would have seen me and stopped anyway, but please don't undertake a left turning vehicle next time, Mr Cyclist... You might not have such a cautious driver turning left on you.
Postby Summernight » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:53 am
There was no bike lane... It was a traffic lighted intersection. The bike lane stopped prior to the intersection.il padrone wrote:Hmm.... about time this rule inconsistency was cleared up legally once and for all, and publicised widely to drivers.Summernight wrote:This morning I was in my car, waiting at the traffic lights to turn left (with indicator on). 3 or 4 cars are behind me waiting at the lights. There is a cycling lane, but it stops at the intersection......
.....Maybe if I'd completed my turn he would have seen me and stopped anyway, but please don't undertake a left turning vehicle next time, Mr Cyclist... You might not have such a cautious driver turning left on you.
Give way when turning across the bike lane.
Postby MisuVir » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:56 am
Does this still apply in an intersection when the bike lane has ended, as per the post above? Or does the cyclist rule of "do not pass vehicles that are indicating a left turn" rule come into play?il padrone wrote:Give way when turning across the bike lane.
Postby Summernight » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:05 am
Postby il padrone » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:12 am
Summernight wrote:This morning I was in my car, waiting at the traffic lights to turn left (with indicator on). 3 or 4 cars are behind me waiting at the lights. There is a cycling lane, but it stops at the intersection......
OK. I read it word for word. I do think that if you're going to bother putting in bike lanes they should carry through intersections, and turning cars give way.Summernight wrote:There was no bike lane... It was a traffic lighted intersection. The bike lane stopped prior to the intersection.
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