The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jasonc » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:54 pm

Bah77 wrote:
Lukeyboy wrote:i assume the reason they do it is the shade.
I have only really noticed people doing it on particularly hot/sunny days.


have the same issue with the kuriulpa bridge. there are markings all along the path stating which side and direction to walk on. only so many times i can ding my bell and request they keep left. down the middle is the most common location
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:36 pm

Perth - Kwinana Freeway PSP, South Perth

This summer I am seeing more and more selfish, moserately risky and downright risky riding.

This morning it started with a pair of riders coming toward me side by side. Not unusual and not, by itself, of great concern, In these situations I try to oblige and move well to the left as I get close. So, not unexpectedly, the pair continued with one rider over the line on my side and I am OK with that.

However, as we get to the same place on the path, a cyclist behind at not a slow speed slices between,inches from both me and the oncoming paired rider on my side.

What amused me is the exclamation of surprise (and perhaps I detected a bit of annoyance or finding fault there as well) from the guy in the pair.

Yes, the bloke behind made a bad choice. Bit then, so did the surprised twerp that was riding towards me. And he clearly had no business constructing the situation anyway.

Be careful out there guys - don't slice in when there is insufficient room. Don't show your selfish side by maintaining your illegal presence over the line when someone else has a more legitimate right to that space.

Time makes the mind fuzzy but I think I am seeing more stupidity in the last month than I did at the same time last year.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:59 pm

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Dragster1 wrote:Why do pedestrians walking along coronation drive bikeway always want to walk on the left side of you coming from the opposite direction. I always keep to the far left to give them an indication of the line Im taking but they still cross over in front of you and at the last minute. I almost seen one bloke end in the drink because the pedo decided to change direction at the last minute and the poor cyclist done a radical swerve to avoid the fool.


I still assume its because they can't correctly judge the speed that cyclists can and do travel along there. But what really annoys me are the d***heads that walk on that 15cm bit of unmarked pathway between the retaining wall and the 2 bike lanes. There is a wide shared pathway on the otherside of the bike lanes just for pedestrians to use. Why walk in that tiny gap where your arms/shoulders end up in the bike lane where some cyclists are doing anywhere between 25-70kph. I usually ding my bell constantly well before and then yell at them/gesture to get out of the area.

For those that don't know the area and think that those speeds are excessive. Its a dedicated bit of infrastructure where peds shouldn't be.
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You have to be an absolute idiot to walk on the right hand side between the retaining wall and the bike lane because its not green.


Some enforcement of rules excluding peds from that area might go well.

Unfortunately they still believe they can go anywhere or do anything.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Dragster1 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:23 pm

Bah77 wrote:
Lukeyboy wrote:You have to be an absolute idiot to walk on the right hand side between the retaining wall and the bike lane because its not green.

I agree with your assessment of the annoyance, but i assume the reason they do it is the shade.
I have only really noticed people doing it on particularly hot/sunny days.

I also see a lot of Pedestrians on that green part and pushing prams with little kids running between their legs.??? Every now and again I let rip on them!

I had one on the Kangaroo point cliff bike only lane walk from one side to the other like she was at a shopping mall, I slow down to about 2k and she dead stops in front of me with 2 kids in toe.
I couldn't unclip fast enough,I balance there for a bit till my wheel touches a bit of curving she hears me say some expletives and turns around as I fall in slowmo tries to grab my arm with her sharp long finger nails digging right in to my arm. After I hit the deck she was very apologetic half my weight and size and tries to help me up. I fell on some curving and only put some small scratches on my frame and forks but still not happy that day .
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Biffidus » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:45 am

A shout out to War Memorial Drive and all the peds who prefer to walk down the bike lane than wide a dirt path...

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby MisuVir » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:12 pm

Is that here in Adelaide? We have some strange people here. Almost every day I see people walking down the bike lane near my house when there's a nice wide SHADY footpath on the other side of the road. There's not even a good reason to walk of the left in the bike lane - the only thing on that side is the o-bahn track.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby lobstermash » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:36 pm

You'd have thought all the new years resolutioners would have learnt by now that Lake Tuggeranong is not a place to go tearing along at 40km/h+... But no, still small groups trying to push through all the families, pram pushers, earphoned joggers and dog walkers, that are all there just to get in the way of your $5000 roadie judging by your attitude.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:48 pm

Some marathon runners this morning who obviously cannot read the frequent signs put out by their very own club instructing them to keep left. Some of them were running full speed, head down.

Alert riding by all (and some choice words to the oblivious) saved the day. I was just hoping desperately other riders behind me were paying as much attention as I was.

I'm wondering and thinking why this running group moved from their previous location... :idea:
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby tekapo » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:59 pm

Along the beach, on the long stretch of straight path between Port Melbourne and St Skilda. A slow jogger with ears plugged going the wrong way on the right hand side of the path. Despite signs saying its bikes and skaters only, and the fact that there is a wider parallel pedestrian path a side swerve away. And being Sunday, there was quite a few bikes around, kids, adults, slow and fast.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:57 pm

almost took out a cyclist yesterday, while driving my car. he was looking at a group of people on the footpath and drifted into my path, while coming towards me. he realised the error of his ways at the last minute and pulled in, with an expression on his face that you couldn't manufacture.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby biker jk » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:24 pm

Jogger running on footpath heading in same direction as our group of cyclists. I watched her closely and she started to veer towards the road. Yep, she started to cross the road in front of us WITHOUT LOOKING. Earphones of course as well. Received a good loud warning.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:15 pm

biker jk wrote:Jogger running on footpath heading in same direction as our group of cyclists. I watched her closely and she started to veer towards the road. Yep, she started to cross the road in front of us WITHOUT LOOKING. Earphones of course as well. Received a good loud warning.


Don't you just love them. They get into iPod/music world and nothing else exists. That's one of the things I look for with pedestrians/runners. Are there headphones on, is a phone in operation, is there a dog, and if there is a dog, is it on a leash. Danger, danger... :shock: :lol:

trailgumby wrote:Me, today :oops: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=71811


Ouch, not good. Hope the wound heals quickly.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby tekapo » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:24 pm

biker jk wrote:Jogger running on footpath heading in same direction as our group of cyclists. I watched her closely and she started to veer towards the road. Yep, she started to cross the road in front of us WITHOUT LOOKING. Earphones of course as well. Received a good loud warning.


That reminds me, it was maybe the 6th or 7th of this month. I was walking down towards Flinders on Elizabeth, and saw these two girls in full jogging gear running and having a good chat "ON" Elizabeth St. In this section of Elizabeth, between Little Collins and Collins, there is only a single very narrow lane (its barely wider than an average car). While the traffic was comparatively light for the middle of Melbourne, but its still right in the heart of Melbourne in the middle of the day. No idea what they were thinking, luckily there were a bunch of cops dealing with something else and pulled the girls over.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby DavidS » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:57 pm

tekapo wrote:Along the beach, on the long stretch of straight path between Port Melbourne and St Skilda. A slow jogger with ears plugged going the wrong way on the right hand side of the path. Despite signs saying its bikes and skaters only, and the fact that there is a wider parallel pedestrian path a side swerve away. And being Sunday, there was quite a few bikes around, kids, adults, slow and fast.


Yep, and further down too in Brighton. For the life of me I really don't understand this. There is a path for bikes and a path for pedestrians. Why do pedestrians insist on walking on the bike path when there is a footpath not 10 metres away and often right next to the bike path? I often think of stopping and asking one of them but I don't think I'll get a sensible answer. I also ride up Head St from Elwood Beach and heaps of people walk on the road when there is a footpath on one side and a park on the other side - I can't figure out why they do this. It is especially silly when there is wind as one group of cyclists will have the wind and be going damned quick, especially since it is not a shared path.

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby pacra » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:10 pm

tekapo wrote: That reminds me, it was maybe the 6th or 7th of this month. I was walking down towards Flinders on Elizabeth, and saw these two girls in full jogging gear running and having a good chat "ON" Elizabeth St. In this section of Elizabeth, between Little Collins and Collins, there is only a single very narrow lane (its barely wider than an average car). While the traffic was comparatively light for the middle of Melbourne, but its still right in the heart of Melbourne in the middle of the day. No idea what they were thinking, luckily there were a bunch of cops dealing with something else and pulled the girls over.


Come out to Monash Caulfield. They park their cars in the side streets and walk in the middle of the road, ignoring the footpath 2 metres away. Retrospective birth control.
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Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:13 pm

DavidS wrote:...especially since it is not a shared path.

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Give it time and a few whingers and it will be... :(
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:17 am

DavidS wrote: one group of cyclists will have the wind

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I should think that will scare pedestrians away.... :shock:

Mulger bill wrote:
DavidS wrote:...especially since it is not a shared path.

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Give it time and a few whingers and it will be... :(


Bicycle riders are too much of a soft touch - we just put up with this, grumble a bit and shrug our shoulders. Pedestrians on the other hand scream like there is no tomorrow.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Biffidus » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:52 am

MisuVir wrote:Is that here in Adelaide? We have some strange people here. Almost every day I see people walking down the bike lane near my house when there's a nice wide SHADY footpath on the other side of the road. There's not even a good reason to walk of the left in the bike lane - the only thing on that side is the o-bahn track.

It is: War Memorial Drive near the Tennis courts. When there's a big tennis or cricket match the bike lanes are always full of pedestrians.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby wellington_street » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:30 pm

jasonc wrote:stole this from elsewhere



Obviously this moron ignored the numerous signs about bicycles not being allowed on the freeway between the Hawkesbury River and Kariong, got to the Mooney Mooney Creek Bridge and realised he couldn't get across without being skittled, and chucked a u-turn. :roll:
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby wellington_street » Mon Jan 20, 2014 12:47 pm

nezumi wrote:Not neccesarily dumb cyclists, but several anti-social ones on my commute home today.

Crossing Victoria St onto Nicholson St at Richmond, I was first at the lights. I then had a girl on a MTB roll up my left (on the pedestrian area) and jump in front of me, in the pedestrian crossing and on the kerb. I look back and there are about 7 other cyclists behind me, waiting in line.

Lights go green and she meanders through the intersection. I pass her before we are halfway across the street.


This sort of thing seems to happen whenever cyclists are stopped at lights long enough to start a queue. On my usual routes, everyone generally stays in line, but there's always the odd impatient moron who wants to make things difficult and try to overtake through an intersection or jump in front of the queue and then force others to do the same.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby wellington_street » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:45 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:
Dragster1 wrote:Why do pedestrians walking along coronation drive bikeway always want to walk on the left side of you coming from the opposite direction. I always keep to the far left to give them an indication of the line Im taking but they still cross over in front of you and at the last minute. I almost seen one bloke end in the drink because the pedo decided to change direction at the last minute and the poor cyclist done a radical swerve to avoid the fool.


I still assume its because they can't correctly judge the speed that cyclists can and do travel along there. But what really annoys me are the d***heads that walk on that 15cm bit of unmarked pathway between the retaining wall and the 2 bike lanes. There is a wide shared pathway on the otherside of the bike lanes just for pedestrians to use. Why walk in that tiny gap where your arms/shoulders end up in the bike lane where some cyclists are doing anywhere between 25-70kph. I usually ding my bell constantly well before and then yell at them/gesture to get out of the area.

For those that don't know the area and think that those speeds are excessive. Its a dedicated bit of infrastructure where peds shouldn't be.
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You have to be an absolute idiot to walk on the right hand side between the retaining wall and the bike lane because its not green.

Those symbols look like shared path symbols but I can't quite see them clearly - is that right?
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby lobstermash » Mon Jan 20, 2014 1:56 pm

I'm pretty sure the writing on the black strip next to the path says 'NO PEDESTRIANS ON BIKE PATH'...
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jasonc » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:22 pm

wellington_street wrote:Those symbols look like shared path symbols but I can't quite see them clearly - is that right?


it's a picture of a bicycle and a picture of a roller blader/skater
definitely not a pedestrian
the other end of the same path:

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:06 pm

As Jason said its a picture of a rollerblader/someone on skates. Not the clearest from a low mounted bike camera but its obvious from a walking/standing perspective as Jasons picture shows. They are littered along the ground along the whole bikeway along with signage telling what sides peds and cyclists should be on.

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