The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby find_bruce » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:49 pm

g-boaf wrote:As for people fishing from cycling routes, I quite agree.

The dumbest peds I have seen recently were doing just that. Sure they were dumb for blocking the path with rods & idiots, apparently deaf as well, but the really dumb bit was that they were fishing in Cook's effluent. As the good people at the Water Research Centre put it "The tests found quantities of pharmaceutical and industrial chemicals in concentrations similar to those found in untreated sewage. The contaminants included soaps, insecticides, caffeine and anticonvulsants."

I like my caffine as much as any cyclist, but I prefer it without the additives
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The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby tekapo » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:29 pm

human909 wrote:
tekapo wrote:Adding to this, both of my crashes/falls in the last six month were on bike path. The first is when I rode too close to the edge, and the back tire fall off the path and got caught.

Don't ride close to the edge, mate. 8)


It was on a curve, clipped the back wheel at low speed. mistakes will eventually happen when you spend enough time on the bike.

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tekapo wrote:The other is inadvertently locking the wheel descending, and going over the handle bar, no major damage.

Don't lock your wheel, mate. 8)


That was about 45k into the ride, I was tired and mind wandered on an empty path. If there was anything to distract me, I would have paid more attention.
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tekapo wrote:Both can probably be attributed to me not paying as much attention riding on an empty bike path, and my mind wandered.

Pay attention, mate. 8)


See. It isn't nice people having other people dictate to you how to behave. So why you feel the need to dictate to others on when to wear a helmet is beyond me.[/quote][/quote]

I think you missed the point. I was pointing out that accidents can happened on bike paths, and in these particular cases, it was my fault.

Besides. I have no issue with people telling me not to do dumb things. I did dumb things, I am just telling you about it.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby CXCommuter » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:18 am

Two cyclist week get votes from me:
First was a POBSO on the PSP at Leederville ambling alone then stopping every 20m, get alongside and realise he is stopping to suck on a cancer stick he is holding in his hand, problem is he stops on a blind corner in the middle of the path.

Second was a guy on a singlespeed ahead somehow drops a front wheel in the sand off the track and flys over the bars, thankfully onto the sand not the concrete so was just sheepishly embarrassed.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby biker jk » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:41 pm

Dumb cyclist rides through red light and is almost collected by the car in front of me. Boy was he lucky not to be in St Vincents hospital. I've seen him riding like a moron before, identified by no helmet and on a fixie.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:27 am

I had a pedestrian just go walking straight out on the road in front of me (not at a pedestrian crossing, and within sight of one). Fortunately I saw him moving and slowed down.

How he didn't see me I don't know, he just didn't bother to look. I had my front light blasting away at full brightness. This is how pedestrians get knocked over by cars and the like...
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby outnabike » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:35 am

g-boaf wrote:I had a pedestrian just go walking straight out on the road in front of me (not at a pedestrian crossing, and within sight of one). Fortunately I saw him moving and slowed down.

How he didn't see me I don't know, he just didn't bother to look. I had my front light blasting away at full brightness. This is how pedestrians get knocked over by cars and the like...


Hi g-boaf,
Me too,but what is surprising is that they actually are looking in my direction and then still step out. I have on a yellow work shirt and so visibility can't be the issue.
I reckon the brain doesn't register that a bike running over ones face will hurt. :)
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Percrime » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:02 am

jules21 wrote:
this is how that pedestrian on Beach Rd in Melb got killed - the rider couldn't stop for the red light as he had a marauding bunch behind him still going full speed.


While I take your general point... the instance is wrong. I talked to people on that ride who are adament that the group had split..... many riders had stopped..which is why the ped stepped out. A couple of riders at the back swerved around the bunch and quite deliberately ran the red to try and catch the rest of the bunch. When the ped stepped out past the stopped riders the chasers were on full noise. Don't cut that particular rider any slack.. I was amazed to discover he is still racing.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:13 am

Percrime wrote:While I take your general point... the instance is wrong. I talked to people on that ride who are adament that the group had split..... many riders had stopped..which is why the ped stepped out. A couple of riders at the back swerved around the bunch and quite deliberately ran the red to try and catch the rest of the bunch. When the ped stepped out past the stopped riders the chasers were on full noise. Don't cut that particular rider any slack.. I was amazed to discover he is still racing.

i didn't know that. i was basing my comments on his testimony, which i've read. it was the general point which i was focusing on, rather than that particular rider. but hearing that, it's disappointing. i've seen his name around a bit too. i recall he won some praise for how he responded afterwards, but that's no excuse.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby tekapo » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:03 pm

Percrime wrote:I was amazed to discover he is still racing.


Shouldn't he be facing jail time? Running a red is obviously an offense, and adding manslaughter to it, don't really see why he should be out and about.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:07 pm

Dragster1 wrote:Why do pedestrians walking along coronation drive bikeway always want to walk on the left side of you coming from the opposite direction. I always keep to the far left to give them an indication of the line Im taking but they still cross over in front of you and at the last minute. I almost seen one bloke end in the drink because the pedo decided to change direction at the last minute and the poor cyclist done a radical swerve to avoid the fool.


I still assume its because they can't correctly judge the speed that cyclists can and do travel along there. But what really annoys me are the d***heads that walk on that 15cm bit of unmarked pathway between the retaining wall and the 2 bike lanes. There is a wide shared pathway on the otherside of the bike lanes just for pedestrians to use. Why walk in that tiny gap where your arms/shoulders end up in the bike lane where some cyclists are doing anywhere between 25-70kph. I usually ding my bell constantly well before and then yell at them/gesture to get out of the area.

For those that don't know the area and think that those speeds are excessive. Its a dedicated bit of infrastructure where peds shouldn't be.
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You have to be an absolute idiot to walk on the right hand side between the retaining wall and the bike lane because its not green.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Mulger bill » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:36 pm

tekapo wrote:
Percrime wrote:I was amazed to discover he is still racing.


Shouldn't he be facing jail time? Running a red is obviously an offense, and adding manslaughter to it, don't really see why he should be out and about.

Nope, he copped the most possible under then current laws.
Thanks for the heads up on the reality of the case Perc, eyes=opened.

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Bah77 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:36 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:You have to be an absolute idiot to walk on the right hand side between the retaining wall and the bike lane because its not green.

I agree with your assessment of the annoyance, but i assume the reason they do it is the shade.
I have only really noticed people doing it on particularly hot/sunny days.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jasonc » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:54 pm

Bah77 wrote:
Lukeyboy wrote:i assume the reason they do it is the shade.
I have only really noticed people doing it on particularly hot/sunny days.


have the same issue with the kuriulpa bridge. there are markings all along the path stating which side and direction to walk on. only so many times i can ding my bell and request they keep left. down the middle is the most common location
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:36 pm

Perth - Kwinana Freeway PSP, South Perth

This summer I am seeing more and more selfish, moserately risky and downright risky riding.

This morning it started with a pair of riders coming toward me side by side. Not unusual and not, by itself, of great concern, In these situations I try to oblige and move well to the left as I get close. So, not unexpectedly, the pair continued with one rider over the line on my side and I am OK with that.

However, as we get to the same place on the path, a cyclist behind at not a slow speed slices between,inches from both me and the oncoming paired rider on my side.

What amused me is the exclamation of surprise (and perhaps I detected a bit of annoyance or finding fault there as well) from the guy in the pair.

Yes, the bloke behind made a bad choice. Bit then, so did the surprised twerp that was riding towards me. And he clearly had no business constructing the situation anyway.

Be careful out there guys - don't slice in when there is insufficient room. Don't show your selfish side by maintaining your illegal presence over the line when someone else has a more legitimate right to that space.

Time makes the mind fuzzy but I think I am seeing more stupidity in the last month than I did at the same time last year.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:59 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:
Dragster1 wrote:Why do pedestrians walking along coronation drive bikeway always want to walk on the left side of you coming from the opposite direction. I always keep to the far left to give them an indication of the line Im taking but they still cross over in front of you and at the last minute. I almost seen one bloke end in the drink because the pedo decided to change direction at the last minute and the poor cyclist done a radical swerve to avoid the fool.


I still assume its because they can't correctly judge the speed that cyclists can and do travel along there. But what really annoys me are the d***heads that walk on that 15cm bit of unmarked pathway between the retaining wall and the 2 bike lanes. There is a wide shared pathway on the otherside of the bike lanes just for pedestrians to use. Why walk in that tiny gap where your arms/shoulders end up in the bike lane where some cyclists are doing anywhere between 25-70kph. I usually ding my bell constantly well before and then yell at them/gesture to get out of the area.

For those that don't know the area and think that those speeds are excessive. Its a dedicated bit of infrastructure where peds shouldn't be.
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You have to be an absolute idiot to walk on the right hand side between the retaining wall and the bike lane because its not green.


Some enforcement of rules excluding peds from that area might go well.

Unfortunately they still believe they can go anywhere or do anything.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Dragster1 » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:23 pm

Bah77 wrote:
Lukeyboy wrote:You have to be an absolute idiot to walk on the right hand side between the retaining wall and the bike lane because its not green.

I agree with your assessment of the annoyance, but i assume the reason they do it is the shade.
I have only really noticed people doing it on particularly hot/sunny days.

I also see a lot of Pedestrians on that green part and pushing prams with little kids running between their legs.??? Every now and again I let rip on them!

I had one on the Kangaroo point cliff bike only lane walk from one side to the other like she was at a shopping mall, I slow down to about 2k and she dead stops in front of me with 2 kids in toe.
I couldn't unclip fast enough,I balance there for a bit till my wheel touches a bit of curving she hears me say some expletives and turns around as I fall in slowmo tries to grab my arm with her sharp long finger nails digging right in to my arm. After I hit the deck she was very apologetic half my weight and size and tries to help me up. I fell on some curving and only put some small scratches on my frame and forks but still not happy that day .
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Biffidus » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:45 am

A shout out to War Memorial Drive and all the peds who prefer to walk down the bike lane than wide a dirt path...

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby MisuVir » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:12 pm

Is that here in Adelaide? We have some strange people here. Almost every day I see people walking down the bike lane near my house when there's a nice wide SHADY footpath on the other side of the road. There's not even a good reason to walk of the left in the bike lane - the only thing on that side is the o-bahn track.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby lobstermash » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:36 pm

You'd have thought all the new years resolutioners would have learnt by now that Lake Tuggeranong is not a place to go tearing along at 40km/h+... But no, still small groups trying to push through all the families, pram pushers, earphoned joggers and dog walkers, that are all there just to get in the way of your $5000 roadie judging by your attitude.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:48 pm

Some marathon runners this morning who obviously cannot read the frequent signs put out by their very own club instructing them to keep left. Some of them were running full speed, head down.

Alert riding by all (and some choice words to the oblivious) saved the day. I was just hoping desperately other riders behind me were paying as much attention as I was.

I'm wondering and thinking why this running group moved from their previous location... :idea:
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby tekapo » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:59 pm

Along the beach, on the long stretch of straight path between Port Melbourne and St Skilda. A slow jogger with ears plugged going the wrong way on the right hand side of the path. Despite signs saying its bikes and skaters only, and the fact that there is a wider parallel pedestrian path a side swerve away. And being Sunday, there was quite a few bikes around, kids, adults, slow and fast.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby trailgumby » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:31 pm

"People have a right to their own opinions, but not their own facts. Evidence must be located, not created, and opinions not backed by evidence cannot be given much weight." -- James W Loewen

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:57 pm

almost took out a cyclist yesterday, while driving my car. he was looking at a group of people on the footpath and drifted into my path, while coming towards me. he realised the error of his ways at the last minute and pulled in, with an expression on his face that you couldn't manufacture.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby biker jk » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:24 pm

Jogger running on footpath heading in same direction as our group of cyclists. I watched her closely and she started to veer towards the road. Yep, she started to cross the road in front of us WITHOUT LOOKING. Earphones of course as well. Received a good loud warning.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:15 pm

biker jk wrote:Jogger running on footpath heading in same direction as our group of cyclists. I watched her closely and she started to veer towards the road. Yep, she started to cross the road in front of us WITHOUT LOOKING. Earphones of course as well. Received a good loud warning.


Don't you just love them. They get into iPod/music world and nothing else exists. That's one of the things I look for with pedestrians/runners. Are there headphones on, is a phone in operation, is there a dog, and if there is a dog, is it on a leash. Danger, danger... :shock: :lol:

trailgumby wrote:Me, today :oops: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=71811


Ouch, not good. Hope the wound heals quickly.
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