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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:59 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:Not really. Its a different category all together. I see it as him being a tool. I go through some sketchy parts of town and I've seen countless types of people doing the same thing as they try to be a prick and annoy everyone. As soon as you mouth off to them they want to start an argument or draw attention. They do it to cyclists, they do it to cars, they do it to motorbike riders, they do it do truck drivers and I've even seen one complete prick do it to a train. It's the same type of prick that walks down the middle of a road at 1am and when you honk your horn for them to get off the road they feel its necessary to turn around and start walking towards your car to start a fight. All options of him not being a prick went out the window when he chose to cross at the widest part of the road.

And you can't see that by superimposing all those things from other peds - which you have also just done - to any case of what could and probably is just a bad (not seriously bad) error in judgement/spatial awareness etc? Just because he is a ped? One should be a little selective or we are the same as those that attack us in the same way.

The guy concerned is not "they". He is just a guy that probably simply got it wrong in a not too threatening situation. If he did the same in front of a heavy truck unable to stop or in a place with limited vision then maybe we can draw more solid conclusions but not in this case by any stretch.

Naaah. Anyone here denying that they make just as significant errors from time to time is in denial.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:52 pm

Well that's how I see it from the video. Personally its no different than labeling the two cyclists that I saw yesterday that ran a red light on a downhill T junction into the middle of turning traffic as pricks. Were they useless pricks? Yes. Does it make every cyclist a prick? No. Those 2 managed to qualify for the being a prick category and I even said a few choice words to them as I rode past them 60m later. The bloke was riding in the middle of the road and signaled he was turning right yet the ped decided to cross at the widest part of the road and exactly where the cyclist was turning. It would be understandable if he was riding on the left hand side of the road but he wasn't. When the cyclist got closer did he stop/take a few steps backwards to let the cyclist past or did he take a few extra quick steps forwards to get out of his path? He did neither. Just continued his slow waddle across the road. As the cyclist was right infront of him he turns and looks behind while in the middle of the other lane. That's what made him a prick. Not what others have done in the past. It was his actions.

That's how I see it. You might see if differently. Some will see it the same way I do. Others will see it the same way as you do.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby biker jk » Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:08 pm

Yes, definitely a pr**k. Just like the joggers running down the middle of the road towards me yelling expletives when I suggested they get off the road.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Mulger bill » Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:58 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:Well that's how I see it from the video. Personally its no different than labeling the two cyclists that I saw yesterday that ran a red light on a downhill T junction into the middle of turning traffic as pricks. Were they useless pricks? Yes. Does it make every cyclist a prick? No. Those 2 managed to qualify for the being a prick category and I even said a few choice words to them as I rode past them 60m later. The bloke was riding in the middle of the road and signaled he was turning right yet the ped decided to cross at the widest part of the road and exactly where the cyclist was turning. It would be understandable if he was riding on the left hand side of the road but he wasn't. When the cyclist got closer did he stop/take a few steps backwards to let the cyclist past or did he take a few extra quick steps forwards to get out of his path? He did neither. Just continued his slow waddle across the road. As the cyclist was right infront of him he turns and looks behind while in the middle of the other lane. That's what made him a prick. Not what others have done in the past. It was his actions.

That's how I see it. You might see if differently. Some will see it the same way I do. Others will see it the same way as you do.

Rewatched it a few times and I suspect you're right, it looked to me like he actually picked up his pace a bit before he got onto the road only to resume standard meander pace. The fact he crossed on the diagonal is pretty indicative of an anti B attitude too.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby AKO » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:38 pm

One more vote for "just a prick".
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Boognoss » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:17 pm

My commute cut short this morning :?

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby biker jk » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:20 pm

Boognoss wrote:My commute cut short this morning :?


What was the cause? Are you ok? You were lucky no cars/trucks were in the lane.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jasonc » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:21 pm

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Boognoss wrote:My commute cut short this morning :?


What was the cause? Are you ok? You were lucky no cars/trucks were in the lane.


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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:40 pm

Now show 'em the pics of your knee Boogs :twisted:

Have you swapped out the bartape yet?

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Boognoss » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:41 pm

Just a few scrapes and sore non-scraped knee. Hit a small rock shaped piece of concrete with the front wheel and insta-flat. Didn't see it before I hit it I think mostly due to the angle of the sun. I can barely see it in the forward facing camera but much clearer with the rear cam.

The bike is fine! :lol: New bar tape and I retrued the front wheel today as it had a small dent in the rim.

I might still be too stiff to ride tomorrow but should be in the saddle by Thursday at least. I hate the bus to work.

MB I typed the above before your post popped up. Photos shortly :-)
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Postby Boognoss » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:53 pm

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby cp123 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:32 pm

ouch - the before picture looks MUCH more speccy... :twisted:



sorry if I sound like a sicko! heal well.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:41 pm

This'll fix it, the duct tape and WD40 of any first aid kit...
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:51 pm

ouch. heal well Boogs.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby find_bruce » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:53 pm

My old man would have loved you MB - every bit of gravel rash would be debrided with a scrubing brush. Hurt like blazes, but never had an infection
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:57 pm

Damn man. Heal up.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Dragster1 » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:41 pm

Mulger bill wrote:This'll fix it, the duct tape and WD40 of any first aid kit...
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Good stuff and hope you heal up good boognoss
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jasonc » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:57 am

yep. you definitely have to scrub it. better to get the hurt out of the way. the only problem is the weeping of the wounds afterwards
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby outnabike » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:04 am

Lukeyboy wrote:Damn man. Heal up.



+1 Boognoss,
That is just unbelievable, to be caused by just one small rock and you are well in the lane as well. One hates to think of the debris we can find near the roads edge.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Summernight » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:39 am

Ouch. Ouch ouch ouch. So glad no cars were beside you or near you at the time - you really get thrown into the lane.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Mulger bill » Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:38 am

Summernight wrote:Ouch. Ouch ouch ouch. So glad no cars were beside you or near you at the time - you really get thrown into the lane.

Truth, this is why I now wimp out of the freeway leg of my commute and train it. The shoulders of the Calder freeway seem to have been redesignated as a tip for all sorts of refuse, not to mention that the responsible authorities seem to think that the best way to deal with the odd animal remains is to allow nature to take its course. Not pleasant when traffic conditions mean the only option is over the top or stopping to wait for a gap :(
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Dragster1 » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:57 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
Summernight wrote:Ouch. Ouch ouch ouch. So glad no cars were beside you or near you at the time - you really get thrown into the lane.

Truth, this is why I now wimp out of the freeway leg of my commute and train it. The shoulders of the Calder freeway seem to have been redesignated as a tip for all sorts of refuse, not to mention that the responsible authorities seem to think that the best way to deal with the odd animal remains is to allow nature to take its course. Not pleasant when traffic conditions mean the only option is over the top or stopping to wait for a gap :(

Same here its like the government doesn't bother with the street sweepers anymore or reduced the usage of them, glass is just everywhere
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby MisuVir » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:08 pm

Two clowns tonight.

The first couldn't wait behind me as I momentarily stopped at a stop sign, so they mounted the footpath and went around me. Is that the Must Keep Rolling effect? Saved maybe a second or two.

The second dumbo nearly caused a head-on collision. Riding on a shared path, I was turning right onto a bridge. This bridge has a bollard at each end separating the left and right sides... so I turn right and there's a cyclist coming right at me on the wrong side of the bollard. Almost lost it, but carried on muttering under my breath.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:11 am

Boognoss wrote:My commute cut short this morning :?



Ouch - that's bad. Really lucky that no cars or trucks were nearby. I've done similar to that, but at night. Roads can be a dumping ground for rubbish. When it's really dark rocks and that kind of debris are almost the same colour as the road and nearly impossible to see. By the time you spot them it's usually too late.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby zero » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:17 am

Mulger bill wrote:
Summernight wrote:Ouch. Ouch ouch ouch. So glad no cars were beside you or near you at the time - you really get thrown into the lane.

Truth, this is why I now wimp out of the freeway leg of my commute and train it. The shoulders of the Calder freeway seem to have been redesignated as a tip for all sorts of refuse, not to mention that the responsible authorities seem to think that the best way to deal with the odd animal remains is to allow nature to take its course. Not pleasant when traffic conditions mean the only option is over the top or stopping to wait for a gap :(


They don't call it a bunny hop for nothing :)
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