The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

open topic, for anything cycling related.

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby WarbyD » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:26 pm

Scott_C wrote:In WA it is 267(3):

267.Leading animals
(3) A person shall not drive a vehicle (that is not an animal) if an animal tethered to that vehicle is walking or running behind or alongside the vehicle when the vehicle is moving.



is holding a lead considered tethering to the vehicle? my reading of this would suggest that it is legal in WA, as long as you are holding the lead rather than having it tied to the bike..
WarbyD
 
Posts: 483
Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:13 pm

by BNA » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:48 pm

BNA
 

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Scott_C » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:48 pm

WarbyD wrote:
Scott_C wrote:In WA it is 267(3):

267.Leading animals
(3) A person shall not drive a vehicle (that is not an animal) if an animal tethered to that vehicle is walking or running behind or alongside the vehicle when the vehicle is moving.


is holding a lead considered tethering to the vehicle? my reading of this would suggest that it is legal in WA, as long as you are holding the lead rather than having it tied to the bike..


It does look like you are correct that in WA it is not illegal to ride a bike while holding an untethered lead (provided you can hold the lead and make any required turn/stopping hand signals and keep at least one hand on the handlebars all at the same time).

267(2) may restrict you to leading 2 or less animals at once though, depending upon if a restriction that applies to riding in a vehicle applies to riding a bicycle.
Scott_C
 
Posts: 138
Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:49 am
Location: Perth, WA

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Bah77 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:03 pm

wellington_street wrote:Not sure if dumb or not? Yesterday was driving down Palmerston Street, Northbridge, and a young female hipster was riding down the "cycle lane" while her dog was trotting next to her on a leash.

I saw a woman riding up Mt coot-tha with her tiny dog running slightly ahead of her (no leash), then later on when i saw her descending the dog was in her backpack.
I wouldn't have posted about it in this thread though as it seemed under control.
Bah77
 
Posts: 122
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:51 pm

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby human909 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:17 pm

Speaking about dogs and bikes. You guys might enjoy this. I did and I'm not even a dog person! :mrgreen:

http://www.pinkbike.com/video/227689/
human909
 
Posts: 4721
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:48 am

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Davidrnau » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:49 am

Ignoto wrote:I don't know if I should be shocked and amazed or shake my head and think what a silly thing to do



Their behaviour/attitude is disgusting.

David
Davidrnau
 
Posts: 152
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:19 pm

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby human909 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:32 am

Davidrnau wrote:Their behaviour/attitude is disgusting.


Why is their behaviour disgusting? I'm curious how you can tell that their attitude from that video.

Are you suggesting people should not do risky activities? So what about mountainbiking?
Are you suggesting that people can do risky activities but not on a public road? So what about fast descending?

The willingness of people to condemn others for activities that they themselves would not do is far too high in this thread. I believe people stop being concerned with activities that don't affect them.
human909
 
Posts: 4721
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:48 am

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby rdp_au » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:44 am

human909 wrote:Wow.. I wasn't aware of that law.

I can't believe we create laws for this and not laws to protect cyclists.


(Not that I think leading an animal is a good idea. But we can't create specific laws to outlaw every silly behavior.)


+ many
User avatar
rdp_au
 
Posts: 493
Joined: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:45 pm
Location: Hornsby, Sydney, NSW

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Davidrnau » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:47 am

human909 wrote:
Davidrnau wrote:Their behaviour/attitude is disgusting.


Why is their behaviour disgusting? I'm curious how you can tell that their attitude from that video.

Are you suggesting people should not do risky activities? So what about mountainbiking?
Are you suggesting that people can do risky activities but not on a public road? So what about fast descending?

The willingness of people to condemn others for activities that they themselves would not do is far too high in this thread. I believe people stop being concerned with activities that don't affect them.


Okay then....as a registered nurse....next time I see, have to look after a cyclist who took risky behaviors and lost and has an aquired brain injury "I won't be upset about it'


David
Last edited by Davidrnau on Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:13 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Davidrnau
 
Posts: 152
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:19 pm

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Percrime » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:12 pm

You lad need to change jobs. And its self evident you do in fact care what other people do. Way too much.
Percrime
 
Posts: 966
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:41 am

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby nezumi » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:24 pm

human909 wrote:
Davidrnau wrote:Their behaviour/attitude is disgusting.


Why is their behaviour disgusting? I'm curious how you can tell that their attitude from that video.

Are you suggesting people should not do risky activities? So what about mountainbiking?
Are you suggesting that people can do risky activities but not on a public road? So what about fast descending?

The willingness of people to condemn others for activities that they themselves would not do is far too high in this thread. I believe people stop being concerned with activities that don't affect them.


Mountain biking would predominantly place only the person concerned at risk.

Rising like this not only puts the person concerned at risk, but also puts others at risk in the event that one of them comes off/the vehicle stops abruptly/one of them pulls out of the slipstream and goes backwards into the path of a car.

Encouraging risky behaivour is not good, but it is especially poor in Australia where we have a public health system that would end up funding the cost if something were to happen to these two.
2014 Merida Cyclo Cross 4

I am a Merida Ambassador - ask me why I love them enough to volunteer for this! :)
nezumi
 
Posts: 580
Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:30 pm
Location: Heidelberg, Melbourne

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby InTheWoods » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:36 pm

nezumi wrote:Encouraging risky behaivour is not good, but it is especially poor in Australia where we have a public health system that would end up funding the cost if something were to happen to these two.


These two? Note the video is not from Australia.
Image
User avatar
InTheWoods
 
Posts: 1376
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:34 pm
Location: Brisbane

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby find_bruce » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:40 pm

The cyclist showing off his mad skillz by bombing down the shared path on Victoria Road westbound, jumping the kerb at Wellington St so he can blast past the Woolworths petrol station at 30 or so. Pretty much every week I see a driver pull out of there without looking up the hill for bikes. When this DC sees one, he is not going to have time to avoid it & the results will not be pretty. Sure it will be the drivers fault as the driver has the obligation to give way, but it will be the DC you bears the injuries.
Image
User avatar
find_bruce
 
Posts: 3542
Joined: Mon May 09, 2011 8:42 pm
Location: Sydney

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Dragster1 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:28 pm

User avatar
Dragster1
 
Posts: 894
Joined: Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:46 pm
Location: Eluding motorist in Brisbane

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby wellington_street » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:40 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
wellington_street
 
Posts: 942
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:25 pm

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Andy » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:29 am

Dragster1 wrote:This one takes the cake
A WOMAN has been photographed cycling down a street with a little girl tied to her like a backpack.
Image
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/woman-ties-child-to-her-back-as-she-cycles-through-beijing-china/story-fnet085v-1226854148641?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=lifestyle


"Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear"
User avatar
Andy
 
Posts: 207
Joined: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:22 am

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby diventare » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:11 am

Dumb cyclist riding through Edinburgh Gardens Fitzroy on last nights commute.
Coming towards me (plus other commuters in line), sitting upright both hands off the bars busily texting as he rode - focused totally on the all important mobile.
Classic nob.
Image
diventare
 
Posts: 79
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:41 am

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby il padrone » Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:22 am

Dragster1 wrote:This one takes the cake
A WOMAN has been photographed cycling down a street with a little girl tied to her like a backpack.
Image
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/woman-ties-child-to-her-back-as-she-cycles-through-beijing-china/story-fnet085v-1226854148641?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=lifestyle


Oh, come on, what's wrong with that? :?
Old news :| :wink:

Image

Riding bikes in traffic - what seems dangerous is usually safe; what seems safe is often more dangerous.
User avatar
il padrone
 
Posts: 18150
Joined: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:57 pm
Location: Heading for home.

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:01 pm

I was nearly taken out by a rider in a group of 3 near Prestons this morning negotiating a turn on a cycleway half in my lane. Only the fact I was hugging the left of my lane and almost on the fence line saved me. I think the other rider's "s&#t s&#t s&#t" comment expressed both our thoughts clearly enough.

If that was you, no harm done.
g-boaf
 
Posts: 3815
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:11 pm

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby outnabike » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:31 pm

Hi g-boaf,
Well done for keeping your cool.
I get this a fair bit and I reckon that group riders seem to get caught up in a time- situation warp where conversation takes over due care... :)
outnabike
 
Posts: 698
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:53 pm
Location: Melbourne Vic

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:13 pm

I think it's unfair to single out group rides. It's just a narrow corner and it has happened there many times before I'm sure.
g-boaf
 
Posts: 3815
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:11 pm

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby human909 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:56 am

nezumi wrote:Mountain biking would predominantly place only the person concerned at risk.

Rising like this not only puts the person concerned at risk, but also puts others at risk in the event that one of them comes off/the vehicle stops abruptly/one of them pulls out of the slipstream and goes backwards into the path of a car.

Seriously? You are now worried about thee safety of car occupants caused by errant cyclists? :roll: Pray tell me how many car occupants have been injured due to cyclists in the last decade?

nezumi wrote:Encouraging risky behaivour is not good, but it is especially poor in Australia where we have a public health system that would end up funding the cost if something were to happen to these two.

If we were really worried about saving costs in the public health system there would be hundreds of lifestyle choices that we would be banning before these "risky" cycling activities were banned.
human909
 
Posts: 4721
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:48 am

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:41 am

Our public health system would be under less strain if more people used bicycles instead of their cars. :|
g-boaf
 
Posts: 3815
Joined: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:11 pm

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Ross » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:45 am

Woman hurt after being hit by ambulance

http://www.news.com.au/national/breakin ... um=twitter

What's the bet she was texting or checking Facebook...

AN ambulance rushing to a job in Sydney has hit a young woman who stepped into its path.
Paramedics aboard the ambulance on Tuesday evening had to help the 23-year-old, who suffered serious facial, leg and arm injuries when she walked in front of the vehicle on Anzac Parade in Kensington, police said.

Another ambulance nearby was diverted to take on the job that the paramedics had been attending.

Police believe the first ambulance had its warning lights and sirens going when the incident happened.

The woman remains in a stable condition in St Vincents Hospital.

Police are investigating.

Image
User avatar
Ross
 
Posts: 3668
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:53 pm

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby biker jk » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:05 am

Two DCs this morning riding in the right lane of Oxford St Paddington heading West to make a right hand turn into a one way street. Yes, they were heading the wrong way down the one way street.
User avatar
biker jk
 
Posts: 2493
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:18 pm
Location: Sydney

Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby zero » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:46 am

biker jk wrote:Two DCs this morning riding in the right lane of Oxford St Paddington heading West to make a right hand turn into a one way street. Yes, they were heading the wrong way down the one way street.


The RMS has finally changed it policy on that, and I'd expect many streets like that to eventually be signposted 2 way for bicycles. Give about 30 years for the current driving population that never update their rule knowledge to die out and it might even become workable without idiocy from drivers. Like many other traffic flow devices, 1 way streets only exist because of cars.
zero
 
Posts: 2617
Joined: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:54 pm

PreviousNext

Return to General discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Dirty32, Kev365428, mUnky, pauls51, Undertow



Popular Bike Shops
Torpedo 7 Torpedo7 AU
Ground Effect Ground Effect NZ
Chain Reaction Cycles CRC UK
Wiggle Wiggle UK
Ebay Ebay AU



InTouch with BNA
“Bicycles BNA Twitter
“Bicycles BNA Facebook
“Google+ BNA Google+
“Bicycles BNA Newsletter