The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby casual_cyclist » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:40 am

Anyway, I'm nominating myself for dumb cyclist today. I wanted to turn left but traffic was backed up a few hundred metres so I took the right hand lane hoping a gap would open up before the lights. It didn't. I ended up at the front of the queue indicating left and hoping a kind motorist would let me in. One did which was very considerate given the circumstances. However, the gap opened up behind a bus, which was turning left. I underestimated how slow the bus would turn and almost ran up the back of them. Not smart. Of course the bus then proceeded to park in the middle of the lane blocking any progress on the left or right. I gave up and bailed onto the footpath and pushed my bike the last few metres to work. Not a good morning for me.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby tez001 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:05 pm

g-boaf wrote:
When someone wants to do that on the road among traffic, I'll just try to look out of breath/tired and let them have their victory.


Well I sorta eye it off as a race, but 99% of the time I say to myself who am I kidding and resume my mediocre pace :)
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby warthog1 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:01 pm

There's a commuter cup racing thread over in the commute section. You blokes need to check it out :P

http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=32291&start=700

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby bychosis » Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:41 am

Also known as Silly Commuter Racing. It's a game, not a competition.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby silentC » Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:18 am

warthog1 wrote:There's a commuter cup racing thread over in the commute section. You blokes need to check it out :P


That is Internet gold! I had no idea, thank you :D
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jasonc » Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:24 am

silentC wrote:
warthog1 wrote:There's a commuter cup racing thread over in the commute section. You blokes need to check it out :P


That is Internet gold! I had no idea, thank you :D



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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Robthommo » Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:31 am

11.15pm last night

Two riders wearing no helmets, dark clothes and no lights.

Riding north on Pascoe Vale Road in Essendon, just near Fletcher St
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby warthog1 » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:48 pm

silentC wrote:That is Internet gold! I had no idea, thank you :D


Kona Commuter's clips are the best on the forum :D
He hasn't put any on for a while though :(


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Postby foo on patrol » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:37 pm

^^^^ What an idiot. :roll:

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:48 am

I had a good laugh.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby g-boaf » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:49 am

What on earth were they doing with that bag? :?: :? Seems a pretty silly thing to do - and against the highway code:

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You should
- keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear
- keep both feet on the pedals
- never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends
- not ride close behind another vehicle
- not carry anything which will affect your balance or may get tangled up with your wheels or chain
- be considerate of other road users, particularly blind and partially sighted pedestrians. Let them know you are there when necessary, for example, by ringing your bell if you have one. It is recommended that a bell be fitted.



Rule 59 is a good one, the bit about wearing clothes appropriate for cycling. :twisted: (in reference to the usual hubris about activity specific clothing).
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Summernight » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:45 am

To the two red light jumpers on Collins St this morning at Exhibition- one of these red light jumpers was pretty much 3/4s of the way across the intersection before the light turned green. You're lucky you checked the road as you moved off and got out of the way of the amber/red light running motorist.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Boognoss » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:45 pm

Here's a tip, before you walk onto a road how about looking up first???

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:58 pm

Boognoss wrote:Here's a tip, before you walk onto a road how about looking up first???


i've got bad news on that one - ped is crossing a footpath and cyclist needed to yield.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Boognoss » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:04 pm

jules21 wrote:
Boognoss wrote:Here's a tip, before you walk onto a road how about looking up first???


i've got bad news on that one - ped is crossing a footpath and cyclist needed to yield.


Not according to my understanding as we were on the side-street itself. If I was turning in to that street from the street I was turning on to I know you have to give way - in NSW at least.

As per this - http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/usingroads/roadrules/
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Lukeyboy » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:07 pm

Still doesn't negate the fact they didn't look before stepping out onto a road regardless who had to give way.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby duncanm » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:10 pm

Boognoss wrote:
jules21 wrote:
Boognoss wrote:Here's a tip, before you walk onto a road how about looking up first???


i've got bad news on that one - ped is crossing a footpath and cyclist needed to yield.


Not according to my understanding as we were on the side-street itself. If I was turning in to that street from the street I was turning on to I know you have to give way - in NSW at least.

As per this - http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/usingroads/roadrules/


Yup. Agreed.

Give way to pedestrians on the road you are entering, not the one you're leaving:

Road Rules 2008
Current version for 1 July 2014 to date (accessed 28 July 2014 at 13:08)
Part 21Rule 353
<< page >>
353 References to pedestrians crossing a road

(1) If a driver who is turning from a road at an intersection is required to give way to a pedestrian who is crossing the road that the driver is entering, the driver is only required to give way to the pedestrian if the pedestrian’s line of travel in crossing the road is essentially perpendicular to the edges of the road the driver is entering—the driver is not required to give way to a pedestrian who is crossing the road the driver is leaving.

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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Boognoss » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:12 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:Still does negate the fact they didn't look before stepping out onto a road regardless who had to give way.


That was the main thing actually - my mate used his Air Zound to warn the ped and he actually apologised as I rolled past.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:21 pm

73 Giving way at a T–intersection
(1) A driver at a T–intersection without traffic lights or a stop sign, stop line, give way sign or give way line, must give way in accordance with this rule.
(2) If the driver is turning left (except if the driver is using a slip lane) or right from the terminating road into the continuing road, the driver must give way to:
(a) ..
(b) any pedestrian who is crossing the continuing road at or near the intersection.


it looks like you guys were approaching from the bottom of the vertical stroke of the T-intersection - in which case, i think the rule is clear you need to yield.

nah, i'm wrong. crossing the continuing road doesn't mean crossing the way the ped was. bloody complex rule! how do they expect people to remember all of that stuff? :o

Lukeyboy wrote:Still does negate the fact they didn't look before stepping out onto a road regardless who had to give way.

true. one action can never negate another - both parties have mutual responsibilities. the ped should have been looking.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby Boognoss » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:46 pm

jules21 wrote:
nah, i'm wrong. crossing the continuing road doesn't mean crossing the way the ped was. bloody complex rule! how do they expect people to remember all of that stuff? :o



I know! Since starting to ride again as an adult several years ago I'm much more up to date on the rules particularly as they relate to cycling that was was for the 15 years of driving prior.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby kenwstr » Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:21 pm

Boognoss wrote:
jules21 wrote:
nah, i'm wrong. crossing the continuing road doesn't mean crossing the way the ped was. bloody complex rule! how do they expect people to remember all of that stuff? :o



I know! Since starting to ride again as an adult several years ago I'm much more up to date on the rules particularly as they relate to cycling that was was for the 15 years of driving prior.


My personal rule is simply don't hit pedestrians. Seeems pretty obvious what was about to happen here, hence the airzound. I have made actual contact with a ped once but I was stationary at the moment of contact.
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby archetuthus » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:34 pm

im not the owner of the clip but saw this on youtube: http://youtu.be/WpjVJLqBtMg
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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby duncan16v » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:55 pm

archetuthus wrote:im not the owner of the clip but saw this on youtube: http://youtu.be/WpjVJLqBtMg


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Re: The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

Postby jules21 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:07 pm

archetuthus wrote:im not the owner of the clip but saw this on youtube: http://youtu.be/WpjVJLqBtMg

i'd be annoyed too. that other guy looks like he has just gone out and bought a load of Rapha kit and thinks everyone should yield to him.
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