The Dumb Cyclists and Pedestrians thread...

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Postby fat and old » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:32 pm

Sully wrote:So your telling me if you came across a car pulling out in a tight car park and other cars waiting for him, you'd ride straight past them and in front of the car pulling out becaude he should have seen through the cars and seen you coming and given way?


I’ve been thinking about this a bit since seeing the original post. You seem to be saying it was dumb because he left himself open to being hit by the car? It took me a while to realise/think of that.

My original take is that car was attempting to leave parking spot on busy street. Other cars had pulled up as a courtesy thing to allow this ( common enough, I reckon we’ve all done it). Cyclist saw this, but asserted his rights and continued on, therefore either dumb or discourteous.

Either way, a mistake imo. Stopping would have cost him what? 20 seconds of his time? Where have I heard this before? Don’t matter, he lived, car lived, all is good. :)

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Postby Sully » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:28 pm

fat and old wrote:
Sully wrote:So your telling me if you came across a car pulling out in a tight car park and other cars waiting for him, you'd ride straight past them and in front of the car pulling out becaude he should have seen through the cars and seen you coming and given way?


I’ve been thinking about this a bit since seeing the original post. You seem to be saying it was dumb because he left himself open to being hit by the car? It took me a while to realise/think of that.

My original take is that car was attempting to leave parking spot on busy street. Other cars had pulled up as a courtesy thing to allow this ( common enough, I reckon we’ve all done it). Cyclist saw this, but asserted his rights and continued on, therefore either dumb or discourteous.

Either way, a mistake imo. Stopping would have cost him what? 20 seconds of his time? Where have I heard this before? Don’t matter, he lived, car lived, all is good. :)

Add the three Red lights he blew through and he's looking very dumb.

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Postby fat and old » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:40 am

Meh, red lights. So he kills himself. Too bad. It'll give the forum something to argue over...."he deserves it"...."no, he's a vulnerable road user, he can do what he wants"... and so on.

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Postby duncan16v » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:16 am

Lordy, lordy! The jerks are out today. Ranga on a white Scott roadie this morning with a bad attitude and a whole black Hilux load of aggression on Brunswick Street, Melbourne.

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Postby khendar » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:26 pm

2 dumb cyclists for the price of one here.

https://www.facebook.com/stef.kirsch.3/ ... 7787116938

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Postby biker jk » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:35 pm

khendar wrote:2 dumb cyclists for the price of one here.

https://www.facebook.com/stef.kirsch.3/ ... 7787116938


I witnessed a near miss and two crashes on Willunga Hill. The near miss was when I was climbing and a spectator dropped a roll of tape and just ran across the road to fetch it while a riding descending just missed the idiot. The two crashes were near the top when riders descending had spectators step across the road without looking.

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Postby BJL » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:39 pm

khendar wrote:2 dumb cyclists for the price of one here.

https://www.facebook.com/stef.kirsch.3/ ... 7787116938


It's actually one dumb cyclist who caused both accidents.

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Postby AdelaidePeter » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:42 am

BJL wrote:
khendar wrote:2 dumb cyclists for the price of one here.

https://www.facebook.com/stef.kirsch.3/ ... 7787116938


It's actually one dumb cyclist who caused both accidents.


I think it's two views of the same (multi-bike) accident.

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Postby khendar » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:46 am

AdelaidePeter wrote:
BJL wrote:
khendar wrote:2 dumb cyclists for the price of one here.

https://www.facebook.com/stef.kirsch.3/ ... 7787116938


It's actually one dumb cyclist who caused both accidents.


I think it's two views of the same (multi-bike) accident.


Yeah its the same incident, front and back views.

The descending rider was going too fast for the conditions. With that many riders and spectators he should have been more cautious.

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Postby nezumi » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:19 pm

khendar wrote:
AdelaidePeter wrote:
BJL wrote:
It's actually one dumb cyclist who caused both accidents.


I think it's two views of the same (multi-bike) accident.


Yeah its the same incident, front and back views.

The descending rider was going too fast for the conditions. With that many riders and spectators he should have been more cautious.


I'd say there may be some contributory negligence on the part of the descending rider, but primary fault lies with the person crossing the road without ensuring that it is clear. Unless the road was closed or otherwise, the descender should have the expectation that they would be OK as long as they rode within the law.
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Postby nezumi » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:27 pm

I had an encounter today. As I approached an intersection to turn left there was a rotund gentleman making his way across, slowly, against the red.
I call out "hurry up", then pass around behind him and make my turn.
He told me off for taking the corner too fast.
(Note - he wasn't crossing the road into which I was turning, which would have required me to give way even if he was crossing illegally. He was crossing the road I was turning from, where I had a green light if I was going straight ahead.)
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Postby g-boaf » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:41 am

Reconciliation Road, Prospect pedestrian crossing yesterday at around 5:45pm - pedestrian goes bounding across the road at high speed totally disregarding the red pedestrian lights. :shock: Why the shock?

For me and the car drivers, it was a huge kangaroo leaping across there at full speed. I've seen this kangaroo before and it is particularly fearless, but I can't imagine the car drivers would have expected seeing this enormous thing go across. It then proceeded to bound along heading east up the cycleway at high speed. :shock: I had already stopped upon seeing it and watched it go tearing past me and up the hill. :shock:

Quite something to see especially in a semi-suburban area.

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Postby outnabike » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:05 am

A bit extreme.

https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/m ... r=16638310

Port Phillip Crime Investigation Unit detectives are investigating after a Molotov cocktail was thrown into a St Kilda car park on 24 January.
A man has entered the first level of the Canterbury Road hotel car park and threw the device just after 8am.
The Molotov cocktail has exploded and caused a small fire that did not cause any damage.
The man then fled the area on a bicycle.
Investigators have released an image of man they believe can assist with their enquiries.
He is perceived to be Caucasian in appearance, aged in his 40s, about 185cm tall, with short dark hair and a tattoo sleeve on his right arm.
He was wearing a distinctive Meerkatsu Kingz MMA lycra cycling top and riding a black mountain bike.
Anyone with information is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or submit a confidential report to Crime Stoppers at www.crimestoppersvic.com.au
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Postby RobertL » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:57 pm

jasonc wrote:


Now why would a pedestrian expect to see a bike there? On a bike path? On Land Street? Leading to the tunnel and the Bicentennial Bikeway which is literally the most cycled bit of real estate in Queensland? :shock:
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Postby Aushiker » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:19 pm

jasonc wrote:


She looked to me like she was crossing the path ... :?

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Postby jasonc » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:45 pm

Same to me Andrew, but without looking up. She looked behind, but not up
Edit: There's arrows on the path, which you can see in my video staying "keep left"
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Postby NASHIE » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:54 pm

jasonc wrote:Same to me Andrew, but without looking up. She looked behind, but not up
Edit: There's arrows on the path, which you can see in my video staying "keep left"


I would be letting that one slide. You gotta expect that when jumping from road to path.

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Postby AdelaidePeter » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:21 pm

Even in situations like that, cyclists have to give way to pedestrians.

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Postby jasonc » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:43 pm

I did give way. Just posting so others know to look out for these situations
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Postby Mulger bill » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:50 pm

jasonc wrote:I did give way. Just posting so others know to look out for these situations

TBH it looked like the ped was planning on exiting the path, at least she performed a head check for potential overtakers first.

That bloody tree immediately after the entrance to the path is a mongrel of a sightline frogger tho...
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Postby biker jk » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:02 pm

AdelaidePeter wrote:Cyclist smashes car windscreen
http://www.news.com.au/national/victori ... b2839c0af9


Wrong thread. Already in Moron Motorists thread.

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