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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby GraemeL » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:03 am

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby khendar » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:43 am

GraemeL wrote:
master6 wrote:
Nate wrote:yeap 100% rolling shutter & vibration - not wobble.
The SMALLEST of vibrations will do that, can you strap the camera to the mount a little better? (inner tube?)


My camera is mounted using the velcro pads that came with it. I found a lot of vibration, and eliminated most of it by wrapping a strong rubber band around the camera and mount.


If your using Velcro, grab yourself some 3M DualLock instead, it holds the camera nice and tight without any play. Also if you are going to use a rubber strip, just use inner tube as Nate suggested. If the rubber is too thick it tends to allow movement.

Graeme


I've got some stuff called OneWrap which I use for tidying cables. Basically double sided velcro with the hooks on one side and the loops on the other. I wrapped it around the mount and the camera and it eliminated most of the play, so we'll see how that works out on the next ride.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Mugglechops » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:37 pm

The place I bought my Gopro from has the outdoor edition for $255us today only. davesmotors.com and go to deal of the day.

Remember hbf as the coupon code to get another 5% off.

Mine took about a week to arrive including Easter.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Baalzamon » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:58 pm

Mugglechops wrote:The place I bought my Gopro from has the outdoor edition for $255us today only. davesmotors.com and go to deal of the day.

Remember hbf as the coupon code to get another 5% off.

Mine took about a week to arrive including Easter.


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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Mugglechops » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:38 pm

First play around with it

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Crittski » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:09 pm

Solid mount setups mate, video looks good. THe biggest problem I have had is getting shake free footage (Contour). If that is your first attempt, then well done!
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Mugglechops » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:21 pm

I just used the standard Go Pro handlebar mount and the chest strap.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby khendar » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:56 pm

So I stuck some OneWrap velcro around the 808 and its mount and took it for a spin today:



Much smoother. No wobbling at all. That puffing sound you hear is my supreme unfitness.

I'm thinking about getting some Sugru and making up a helmet mount for the camera, just for slightly different perspective.

I also noticed something slightly annoying. When the camera starts a new file there's a 2 second gap, which today just happened to occur when a van heading into a roundabout nearly didn't stop in time.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby master6 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:41 pm

I have the External Power Pack for my 808 #16. The cable that came with it is sloppy at the connection to the Power Pack when charging, and the slightest movement interupts charging. I can use the USB cable that came with the camera, without this problem.
I have sent the following email to Eletopine 365, and will let you know the result.
Apart from this problem, I am very happy with the power pack.

Email sent:-

I have received the External Power Pack for my 808 #16 camera. The cable for the pack is not a tight fit in the power pack, and when I connect it to charge, any slight movement will interupt the the charging. I then move it a little, and charging starts again. I have tried the USB cable that came with the camera, and it fits more tightly into the power pack, and I can move it on my desk while charging, and it does not cause a problem. I need two cables so that I can charge both my camera and power pack at the same time.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby master6 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:59 pm

master6 wrote:I have the External Power Pack for my 808 #16. The cable that came with it is sloppy at the connection to the Power Pack when charging, and the slightest movement interupts charging. I can use the USB cable that came with the camera, without this problem.
I have sent the following email to Eletopine 365, and will let you know the result.
Apart from this problem, I am very happy with the power pack.

Email sent:-

I have received the External Power Pack for my 808 #16 camera. The cable for the pack is not a tight fit in the power pack, and when I connect it to charge, any slight movement will interupt the the charging. I then move it a little, and charging starts again. I have tried the USB cable that came with the camera, and it fits more tightly into the power pack, and I can move it on my desk while charging, and it does not cause a problem. I need two cables so that I can charge both my camera and power pack at the same time.


The reply from eletopine365 was prompt:-


"Dear friend,

Thanks for your message. Sorry to hear that. The cables with the ups charger is universial, so it may be not as good as the our special cable for #16 camera. Like my own universial usb cable, it is not as good as the special cable for my Nokia mobile phone. Like many digitial device, it will be better to charge the ups charger frist, then you can take the ups charger to charge the camera when you want to use our #16 camera. Or it may hurt the ups charger, like the mobile phone, it may hurt the phone if you use it while charging.

Thanks much for your kindly understanding. Any other confusion, please kindly advise by return. Looking forward to your reply.

Regards,
Mandy"

This is not the reply I expected. I dont care whether something is as good as , not as good as, better, or worse. I just want something that works satisfactorily, and the cable supplied with the External Battery Pack is not satisfactory in my opinion. I expected to be supplied with a cable that works, if necessary, another one like the one that came with the camera. I want to be able to charge both the camera battery, and the external battery at the same time, as the process is time consuming, and surely I will get longer recording time by having both batteries fully charged.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby GraemeL » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:20 pm

Let me get this straight....

You have a dodgy cable that came with the external battery, is this the short one that you connect to the camera when out and about or the long one?

If it's the long one that you connect to the PC to charge, you can use any USB cable to charge it. The same goes for the camera, you can use any USB cable to charge the camera from the PC.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby GraemeL » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:22 pm

khendar wrote:So I stuck some OneWrap velcro around the 808 and its mount and took it for a spin today:



Much smoother. No wobbling at all. That puffing sound you hear is my supreme unfitness.

I'm thinking about getting some Sugru and making up a helmet mount for the camera, just for slightly different perspective.

I also noticed something slightly annoying. When the camera starts a new file there's a 2 second gap, which today just happened to occur when a van heading into a roundabout nearly didn't stop in time.


Looks a lot better :) The delay in recording is just something we have to put up with, the couple of seconds is needed to close off the file and start a new one.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby khendar » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:24 pm

GraemeL wrote:
khendar wrote:So I stuck some OneWrap velcro around the 808 and its mount and took it for a spin today:



Much smoother. No wobbling at all. That puffing sound you hear is my supreme unfitness.

I'm thinking about getting some Sugru and making up a helmet mount for the camera, just for slightly different perspective.

I also noticed something slightly annoying. When the camera starts a new file there's a 2 second gap, which today just happened to occur when a van heading into a roundabout nearly didn't stop in time.


Looks a lot better :) The delay in recording is just something we have to put up with, the couple of seconds is needed to close off the file and start a new one.

Graeme


I think what I might do is turn loop recording off, get a bigger SD card and and set the file cutoff length to 40 minutes. That'll cover a commute no problems and limit the number of gaps.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby AUbicycles » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:29 pm

I am having problems formatting 16GB class 6 microSDHC card for a Contour GPS on loan. The original 2GB card works fine, but is too small. The 16GB won't format - either the camera turns off, or I press the formatting button (for a while) and nothing happens. Now I am following the described process by contour for this model camera. I tried the microSDHC card (with an adapter) in another camera and it was fine, and recording is ok.

For the Contour GPS, there are some alternative instructions - a format with an SD formatter (software) or formatting via the computer - both of these however rely on the camera/card mounting, which it is not doing for me.

Any ideas? The card is compatible (from specs) but not giving me much joy.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby GraemeL » Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:12 am

AUbicycles wrote:I am having problems formatting 16GB class 6 microSDHC card for a Contour GPS on loan. The original 2GB card works fine, but is too small. The 16GB won't format - either the camera turns off, or I press the formatting button (for a while) and nothing happens. Now I am following the described process by contour for this model camera. I tried the microSDHC card (with an adapter) in another camera and it was fine, and recording is ok.

For the Contour GPS, there are some alternative instructions - a format with an SD formatter (software) or formatting via the computer - both of these however rely on the camera/card mounting, which it is not doing for me.

Any ideas? The card is compatible (from specs) but not giving me much joy.



Check the pins on the card, paying attention to the little plastic strips that run along the pins, make sure none of them are broken. Using a rubber, give the pins a clean. Put the card back into the camera, making sure the card is seated properly.

Have you tried these particular steps....

The ContourGPS must be formatted with the formatting “pinhole” button on the camera. To format a microSD card, follow the steps below.

Please note that all data on the microSD card will be lost during the format and that the record switch must not be in the forward position during this process.


Power up the camera withOUT the microSD card installed.
The camera wil beep 3 times. Now install the microSD card.
Using a pin or small nail, push and hold down the pinhole "formatting" button located above the microSD card slot. The camera will beep once when the format is complete.
Release the pinhole button only after the camera beeps.
Wait for 60 seconds.
Power off the camera by holding down the power button for 3-5 seconds.
Power up the camera again. The camera should have zero video files on it and be ready to shoot footage.

Other things to try....

To reformat the Micro SD card on a PC:

Insert the SD card in your computer
Click the "Start" button and go to "Computer"
Find the SD card in the listing for "Computer"
Right click on the SD card, and select "Format"
Use Fat 32 w/ default allocation and select the "Quick Format" box


To reformat the Micro SD card on a Mac:

Find the “Disk Utility” (should be found by going to your “Applications” folder and then your “Utilities” folder)
Select the SD card drive and select “Erase”
Use MSDOS FAT setting and select “Erase”


If the above do not work, then try this (Mac only):

Find the “Disk Utility” (should be found by going to your “Applications” folder and then your “Utilities” folder)
Select the SD card drive and select “Erase”
Use MSDOS FAT setting and select “Erase”
Click on the “Partition Tab
Select the pull-down menu beneath the text “Volume Scheme:” labeled “Current” and select “1 Partition”
Click the “Options...” button
Select “Master Boot Record” and click “OK”
Verify that the format is selected as MS-FAT under “Volume Information”
Click the “Apply” button
When you get the dialog box, click the “Partition” button

If you have tried the above and it still does not work....

Leave the card in the camera and connect the camera to the pc, switch over to USB mode and see if it reads the card, if so format it while it's in the camera using one of the above methods.

If you have a card reader put the card into that and see if it will format.

Try another USB cable

Try and format the card on another PC/Mac using the above methods.



If you have tried all of the above and it still won't format, I would be sending it back.

Hope it helps

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby GraemeL » Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:32 am

khendar wrote:I think what I might do is turn loop recording off, get a bigger SD card and and set the file cutoff length to 40 minutes. That'll cover a commute no problems and limit the number of gaps.


Fat32 has a max filesize of 4gig, so as long as your 40 min filesize is less than that you will be ok, but if it is more then you will have a two second gap.
Another thing to think about is if something goes wrong, the file is corrupted etc the battery dies and the file is not saved, you lose a larg chunk of video.

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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Crawf » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:02 pm

Was in Masters over the weekend and spotted one of these for $240: http://www.swann.com/s/products/view/?product=1297
Packaging looked near identical to GoPro, specs near the same, but you get a remote and LCD included with the Swann.
I do wonder whether these things are coming out of the same factory just with different casings?
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Baalzamon » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:05 pm

Just got my GoPro Hero2 today. Took less than a week to get here from davemotors.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Pushy » Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:34 am

GraemeL wrote:
khendar wrote:So I stuck some OneWrap velcro around the 808 and its mount and took it for a spin today:



Much smoother. No wobbling at all. That puffing sound you hear is my supreme unfitness.

I'm thinking about getting some Sugru and making up a helmet mount for the camera, just for slightly different perspective.

I also noticed something slightly annoying. When the camera starts a new file there's a 2 second gap, which today just happened to occur when a van heading into a roundabout nearly didn't stop in time.


Looks a lot better :) The delay in recording is just something we have to put up with, the couple of seconds is needed to close off the file and start a new one.

Graeme


Have a read of this thread at RC Groups. I had my 808 flashed with the AVI firmware this eliminates the 2 sec delay.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby khendar » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:54 pm

master6 wrote:
master6 wrote:I have the External Power Pack for my 808 #16. The cable that came with it is sloppy at the connection to the Power Pack when charging, and the slightest movement interupts charging. I can use the USB cable that came with the camera, without this problem.
I have sent the following email to Eletopine 365, and will let you know the result.
Apart from this problem, I am very happy with the power pack.

Email sent:-

I have received the External Power Pack for my 808 #16 camera. The cable for the pack is not a tight fit in the power pack, and when I connect it to charge, any slight movement will interupt the the charging. I then move it a little, and charging starts again. I have tried the USB cable that came with the camera, and it fits more tightly into the power pack, and I can move it on my desk while charging, and it does not cause a problem. I need two cables so that I can charge both my camera and power pack at the same time.


The reply from eletopine365 was prompt:-


"Dear friend,

Thanks for your message. Sorry to hear that. The cables with the ups charger is universial, so it may be not as good as the our special cable for #16 camera. Like my own universial usb cable, it is not as good as the special cable for my Nokia mobile phone. Like many digitial device, it will be better to charge the ups charger frist, then you can take the ups charger to charge the camera when you want to use our #16 camera. Or it may hurt the ups charger, like the mobile phone, it may hurt the phone if you use it while charging.

Thanks much for your kindly understanding. Any other confusion, please kindly advise by return. Looking forward to your reply.

Regards,
Mandy"

This is not the reply I expected. I dont care whether something is as good as , not as good as, better, or worse. I just want something that works satisfactorily, and the cable supplied with the External Battery Pack is not satisfactory in my opinion. I expected to be supplied with a cable that works, if necessary, another one like the one that came with the camera. I want to be able to charge both the camera battery, and the external battery at the same time, as the process is time consuming, and surely I will get longer recording time by having both batteries fully charged.


USB Mini-B cables are about $1 on ebay. I probably have half a dozen lying around as I frequently lose them.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby master6 » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:32 pm

khendar wrote:USB Mini-B cables are about $1 on ebay. I probably have half a dozen lying around as I frequently lose them.


Thanks for your advice. I have not pursued the matter as I suspected that they would be inexpensive.
I was surprised that a seller would find some justification for selling something of less than satisfactory quality, however I will have no problem putting it into the "who cares File". I am a regular puchaser of a wide variety of goods on Ebay, however I have been reluctant to buy a usb cable because I might buy something as crappy as the cable in question, and it seems that usb cables have a range of connectors on the end that fits the camera. A google search of your suggested "mini-B" turned up a variety of cables, so I will probably stick to my plan of visiting a local store. The closest is 25km away, and I have not had reason to go that way yet.

In summary, surprised at the attitude, but not angry.

Now to another question, out of curiosity only. The card that comes with the 808#16 battery pack shows a light called "Currency detec function". I guess that this light is to indicate when current is flowing from the battery pack to the camera battery, however the light never comes "on". (except when using switch to operate as a torch). What am I misunderstanding here?
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby khendar » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:43 pm

master6 wrote:
khendar wrote:USB Mini-B cables are about $1 on ebay. I probably have half a dozen lying around as I frequently lose them.


Thanks for your advice. I have not pursued the matter as I suspected that they would be inexpensive.
I was surprised that a seller would find some justification for selling something of less than satisfactory quality, however I will have no problem putting it into the "who cares File". I am a regular puchaser of a wide variety of goods on Ebay, however I have been reluctant to buy a usb cable because I might buy something as crappy as the cable in question, and it seems that usb cables have a range of connectors on the end that fits the camera. A google search of your suggested "mini-B" turned up a variety of cables, so I will probably stick to my plan of visiting a local store. The closest is 25km away, and I have not had reason to go that way yet.


For future reference:

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Left to Right: Micro-B plug, a non-USB proprietary plug, Mini-B plug (5-pin), Standard-A socket, Standard-A plug, Standard-B plug. The #16 camera takes a Mini-B, whereas Micro-B is now the standard for phones etc. Ebay can be tricky for these I agree because often they get mislabeled, and some electronics store employees often don't know the difference.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Unko » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:50 pm



How do you change res.? as mine isnt very clear and pixely. film in low light.

Will it be differnt in day light?

cheers unko

FIXED Works nicely in daylight
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby rolandp » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:07 am

Lesson learnt today, as I've only had my camera for a couple of weeks.

DON'T ACCIDENTLY TURN ON THE CAMERA WHEN YOU PLUG IT IN TO CHARGE UP.

I've got several hours of footage of the back of my computer, the memory card filled up, and the unit then turned off. I didn't notice this until I got home and checked the footage, shame as I would have got footage of an illegal non-cycling issue.

For the statistics of purchased, I went with '#11 HD Lens Car Keychain Video Camera Recorder Jumbo V3' from e-bay. Like the unit, but wished it had a flashing indicator or similar to show when it is recording. This unit you turn on, little led lights up, your start recording and led light goes off, as it does when you turn the unit off. You can't actually tell when it is recording.

I also can't work out how to set the date/time. Luckily the date/time isn't on the footage, but the date of the file produced is from 2010, so makes a little harder when looking later for an item.
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Re: Video Camera who uses one?

Postby Unko » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:52 am

An update:

Test 1 was camera set up like this
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