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Liggett & Sherwen

Postby avroncotton » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:44 pm

Now don't get me wrong I really like the L & S commentary, and I have met Phil and he is a top bloke. But, I think they are being paid far too many American Dollars. There are far to many 'mile' references and they are 'roundabouts' guys not 'Traffic Circles". It is a European race. When are the yanks going to join the rest of the world with decimalization. Rant over. Viv Le Tour!
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby birdbrain » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:02 pm

There are far to many 'mile' references


Noticed that and wondered why?

Enjoyed the 1st day anyway. :D

Aside from that moron spectator who bought down half the pelaton :evil:
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby CommuRider » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:04 pm

English commentator - they hate metrics :-)
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby bosvit » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:28 pm

CommuRider wrote:English commentator - they hate metrics :-)

+1

Don't forget to add "old" to that comment.... :wink: :lol:
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby CommuRider » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:33 pm

Ancient and fossilised you mean :-P
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby stevecassidy » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:17 pm

It's not just the old, anceint and fossilised Poms that talk about miles, there's pretty much no penetration of metric measurement into the UK, just like the US.

As a recovering Pom myself, it took a few years of living in NZ with road signs in Km for me to get used to the idea. I can't imagine using imperial units now, doesn't make any sense.

On L & S - it somehow doesn't feel like a proper bike race without them, although I have been enjoying the Dutch and Belgian commentaries on the spring classics via steephill.tv

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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby Nate » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:49 am

Not much wrong with the ol inch or foot... good yardsticks...

Just watch it with a calculator :)
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby igstar » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:43 am

My favourite quote:
"He's riding like a man possessed!"

I get the impression they just remix now the recordings of all the old commentary.
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby JV911 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:44 am

avroncotton wrote:decimalization


the irony is killing me


stevecassidy wrote:there's pretty much no penetration of metric measurement into the UK


we changed in 1970 yet most people in Aus quote their height in feet and inches :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby Undertow » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:22 pm

JV911 wrote:
avroncotton wrote:decimalization


the irony is killing me


irony, the most ironically used word ever.
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby sogood » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:00 pm

With all the hyperbole, "miles" just adds that 1.67 multiple. :wink:
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby cf73 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 2:23 pm

Having listened to L&S commentating the TdF on Ch4 when living in the UK as a kid, I cannot imagine listening to it without them. They are the Murray Walker of cycling, sure may make the odd funny comment. Like Murray Walker saying "(cant remember the diver) is leading apart from the 5 driver in front of him.....!"

Having listened to the commentary on Europsort this year for the Giro and other events, I am so glad we have L&S. The other options are just so boring, espcially the Irish guy (is it Yates??).
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby cray- » Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:25 pm

JV911 wrote:we changed in 1970 yet most people in Aus quote their height in feet and inches :roll: :roll: :roll:


I wasn't even born in 1970 yet still quote my height in feet and inches, why? As a kid in primary school I got interested in basketball and played for a local club along with a few of my school mates, we also watched a lot of NBA and collected NBA trading cards. As we grew, we always wanted to compare our height to the stats on the cards of our favourite players, hence feet and inches. I guess it just kind of stuck, I'm not even sure what 6'2" converts too. I don't use imperial units for anything else.
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby avroncotton » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:25 pm

JV911 wrote:
avroncotton wrote:decimalization


the irony is killing me

I'm sure it is, however I have a Mac and the spell check is American and I don't know how to change it. yall!
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby sogood » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:32 pm

Are they pilots? Pilots still talk in feet and pounds.
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby DavidL » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:06 pm

For memory didn't the coverage of the TDU only have metric units in it? Just remember that earlier in the year I didn't notice the imperial units used during the cometary but later, might have been the Tour of Cal., that it was mainly in imperial with metric conversions.

But L&S make cycling like previously mentioned. Some of the statements made are all part of the fun and add interest to the 2 hours of a group of men riding bikes in the sprinter stages.

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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby Grog » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:12 pm

sogood wrote:Pilots still talk in feet and pounds.
hmmm, knot sure about that :)
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby CommuRider » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:07 pm

Their commentary makes the TdF really a French tourism promo travelogue with a bike race happily being incidental.

i think there should be a drinking game with the TdF...everytime they talk about an abbey, grand lieu, chateau, the River Loire, birdwatching, otters, beetles, shot of cognac. Flat tyre, pissbreak, two shots.
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby goof1671 » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:16 pm

sogood wrote:Are they pilots? Pilots still talk in feet and pounds.


Talk feet for vertical, metric (metres) for horizontal seperation. Talk pounds for aircraft made in America, litres for European and Kilograms for Japanese.

Good System eh?

Phil and Paul are old. And what exactly is wrong with that? I think some of you may be a bit "ageist".

Maybe we could get Lance to do the commentary, he's retired. Then we could get CNN involved, a couple of American sports commentators with really white teeth, some dancing girls. Budweiser could come on board as a major sponsor.
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby MichaelB » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:58 am

And then you get car tyres - width is metric, but rim diameter is imperial ?

I miss the ol' "... and he goes round and round and round..." from Walker !!!
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby Nate » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:10 am

sogood wrote:Are they pilots? Pilots still talk in feet and pounds.


yeah dunno what the go is now, but Military, Aero & Electronics stayed in Imperial even when we went to metric.
We asked the US to supply everything in Metric - they said no.

Building materials - its all still imperial, they say 2200 but its an 8ft'er
they of course didnt re-do all the manufacturing machines ;)
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby Livetoride » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:16 am

CommuRider wrote:Their commentary makes the TdF really a French tourism promo travelogue with a bike race happily being incidental.

i think there should be a drinking game with the TdF...everytime they talk about an abbey, grand lieu, chateau, the River Loire, birdwatching, otters, beetles, shot of cognac. Flat tyre, pissbreak, two shots.


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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby CommuRider » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:25 am

Hahaha LTR, you see right thru me!

I love Gabriel Gate's segment before the race: good food, good wine, good race.
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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby sogood » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:07 am

CommuRider wrote:I love Gabriel Gate's segment before the race: good food, good wine, good race.

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Re: Liggett & Sherwen

Postby elantra » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:21 am

The Commentary by Liggett and Sherwen is GREAT but some of the ads are really off, not as good as previous year's
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