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I guess being a shared app/system/framework we have to deal with the hand we're given by the administrators, other users and our GPS devices.
Why for instance was this segment flagged as hazardous?
The only thing I can think of is too many people leaving Strava running and getting ~90km/h readings from in the car...
Haha. But that's the thing with Strava. You have those that race. There are those that just commute. Those that do casual rides. Those doing it for fitness. Those that do a mix of all. Fit riders. Not so fit riders. Tall riders. Short riders. Light riders. Heavy riders. Young riders. Older riders. When it comes to segments some people can be fast without really trying while others might have to take risks to achieve the same result. For example on the video above I could casually maintain a higher pace on the open/high visibility areas and apply caution in the blind corners. Others might not be able to maintain my casual higher pace so they take risks by gunning it through the blind corners where I'm slower to get the same time. You get that on every strava segment. http://raceshape.com/ is a great tool for comparing how each rider achieves their ultimate speed. You even get that on long rides. I did a 320km ride with a mate at the end of last year. He pulled away on the downhill bits, we averaged roughly the same on the flats but I was faster on the small up hill sections. This went backwards and forwards for a good majority of the ride yet we both had similar strava segment times by a second or two despite at times having a 10-40m gap open between us at times.
And the nanny police are back to flagging segments!
Duplicate for http://www.strava.com/segments/1083143?
Certainly not dangerous and seems to be exactly what a strava segment should be to me.
This is why it'd be nice if there was some sort of review/moderation/discussion. Although a mass email to everyone who rode a segment with a 'Someone thinks that this segment is dangerous because [insert text here].' With buttons for a survey "Do you Agree/disagree/don't care?" has the potential to be really annoying.
Or even a moderated discussion (no names, no pack-drill) between the flagger and the segment creator.
Yes, lead outs is correct - that has been done. Not by me though. The riders around my area are very, very fast. A graders or better.
When it gets to people doing lead outs for segments, that's when I give it a miss. I don't want to go that fast.
However, I have never flagged a segment. It is up to the riders to ride in a manner safe to the conditions.
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I have sympathy for that point if view but did end up flagging a narrowish bridge shared with dog walking pedestrians. It's probably a whole 30m long. Really, what's the point? Not that flagging does a lot of good. The segments just end up being recreated..
So why bother flagging it then?
My real issue with this is that everyone has a different idea of what is hazardous. I have seen several segments that I cannot grasp how someone thought they were hazardous, and it frustrates me that that a good segment is no longer available. I can only conclude that someone flagged it because they lost the KOM and could not get it back... or just for the fun of it maybe?
I see some segments around me that I do consider hazardous, but I don't flag them. People who ride bikes like any other form of transport or leisure activity need to learn to take responsibility for their own decisions and accept the consequences and not try and blame someone else for their poor decisions. Of course their poor decision may impact someone else, and that is unfortunate, but this happens many times a day in many activities other than cycling also.
Seeing I had the KOM on a ridiculous segment I didn't know of, reminded me of regularly seeing the impact of inconsiderate behaviour on the elderly, the young and the less confident on a stretch too short for any sensible metrics.
It was a one-off, as thinking about it afterwards, anyone it would make reconsider would probably be more careful anyway. I'm over it now, and mainly just trying to set a good example by my riding.
The number of low quality, extremely short or overlapping segments is also a bit bemusing, but I guess was always going to be unavoidable.
+1 - I thought that is what hiding a segment was meant to do - if enough people hide it then it is hidden by default. Not sure if it works in practice
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