Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby netsuke » Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:17 pm
Do you consider the Haro & MStar brands will be supported under Avanti, after September ?
I might just fit flat bars to be Cresta and see what develops.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby ldrcycles » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:33 am
IMO, not a snowballs chance in hell. After all the years of diabolical junk being sold at Big W, Repco as a brand is mud. They had a lot of work to make MS respectable (and still haven't convinced plenty, myself included) but it could be done as MS has a stronger history.munga wrote:so not much chance of another decent repco, then? i always hoped they would reinvent the brand and make it something decent, but it'll prolly drop of the sheet altogether now..
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby whichway » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:55 am
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:08 am
But haven't they since got a deal going with Scott?whichway wrote:Didn't Avanti lose the Specialized distribution a while ago. This purchase would then make sense as the Avanti stable alone is not enough for them to keep their Avanti stores going. If they need these additional brands for their own stores, then Bike Hub may indeed be in trouble.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby eddy montignac » Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:18 am
ldrcycles wrote:But haven't they since got a deal going with Scott?
Yes, they are the current distributors for Scott bikes here.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:36 pm
Perhaps better described as 'stopped' distributing Specialized.whichway wrote:Didn't Avanti lose the Specialized distribution a while ago.
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Postby AUbicycles » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:01 pm
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Postby CommuRider » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:51 pm
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby familyguy » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:03 pm
An emailed reply to an email?CommuRider wrote:His responses were short, terse, corp speak. Didn't learn anything new except that he requires better consumer engagement.
I asked my LBS about it (BikeHub), and they were positive about the move for them. Even having an Avanti Plus up not far the road. The distinction will still be there between the two groups, possibly streamlining a few brands in or out, but not a mixing of the two.
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Postby CommuRider » Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:20 pm
Of course and it came across as very defensive.familyguy wrote:An emailed reply to an email?CommuRider wrote:His responses were short, terse, corp speak. Didn't learn anything new except that he requires better consumer engagement.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby pauls51 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:32 pm
And better people skills... But I digress it isn't his fault Pac brands sold their bicycle divisionCommuRider wrote:His responses were short, terse, corp speak. Didn't learn anything new except that he requires better consumer engagement.
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Postby AUbicycles » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:00 pm
As I replied on facebook, the answers none-the-less provide a confirmation that the the 'worst fear' scenarios are no cause for worry in the short term.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby London Boy » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:33 pm
Not so to me. What I read was not so much defensive, but preserving options and not setting any expectations about future plans. In other words, I've got to tell you something, but I'm not really telling you anything.CommuRider wrote:Of course and it came across as very defensive.familyguy wrote:An emailed reply to an email?CommuRider wrote:His responses were short, terse, corp speak. Didn't learn anything new except that he requires better consumer engagement.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby CommuRider » Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:51 pm
I wonder why he agreed to the interview in the first place.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby familyguy » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:37 pm
FWIW I believe this was a long, drawn out process. The MS 2012 range product range launch (among other smaller things) was straight-out cancelled due to the back-and-forth.CommuRider wrote:Obfuscation.
I wonder why he agreed to the interview in the first place.
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Postby Roadi » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:00 am
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Postby munga » Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:11 pm
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Postby London Boy » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:32 pm
MS, very good bikes, excellent value. I've got two, bought after reading reviews and trying them out. Also looked at Bianchi, Merida, Avanti, Colnago (even Colnago) and so on. Either too expensive or just not as well equipped if they were in the range.ldrcycles wrote:IMO, not a snowballs chance in hell. After all the years of diabolical junk being sold at Big W, Repco as a brand is mud. They had a lot of work to make MS respectable (and still haven't convinced plenty, myself included) but it could be done as MS has a stronger history.munga wrote:so not much chance of another decent repco, then? i always hoped they would reinvent the brand and make it something decent, but it'll prolly drop of the sheet altogether now..
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby Sydguy » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:58 pm
http://www.smh.com.au/business/flight-c ... 1jjfy.html
Whilst I think he is very misinformed generally about cycling there are interesting themes in the article.
Not directly related to Pacific Brands/Avanti but it might lead to a further shake up in the market.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby russellgarrard » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:53 pm
I just buy everything online now and slap down the reddies at the LBS and go 'When can you fit it'
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby wombatK » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:03 pm
All well and good if you want just a short term relationship with your bicycle supplier. I suspect the online buyers are often looking short term only, so there might be a market for that. If you overlook what might be behind the "at this stage" qualified replies, and if you're a short-term thinker, his answers will comfort you. While it's not the "worst fear" scenario, I wouldn't want to hold shares in his company long termAUbicycles wrote: the answers none-the-less provide a confirmation that the the 'worst fear' scenarios are no cause for worry in the short term.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby AUbicycles » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:52 pm
On reflecting, maybe it was just a good time for Avanti to make the purchase and place the ex PacBrands manager at the Helm - though still being early days, they may now be thinking, lets keep this running parallel and get the administration worked out, then review and make decisions.
Just speculation on my side, changes are inevitable however if I was a sharefolder, don't have the info to be able to make a decision.
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Re: Avanti Bicycle Co. buys Pacific Brands Bicycle Division
Postby greyhoundtom » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:54 am
The lack of clearly stated goals and directions by the Avanti management at the time of the purchase will cost them brand loyalty by customers in the short term at least, and has to make it more difficult for bike shops to decide what brands of bikes and spares to stock.
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