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I agree.mikesbytes wrote:Some pretty good points on the horse truck pass. Perhaps it would make good news article "Police consider a horses life more important than a human's life - don't fine dangerous driver"
If you are convinced that the plod is a POS in wolf's clothing (and are a bit shy of launching into a full media assault), try forwarding your footage and experiences to a cycle advocacy group who have a media presence.BianchiCam wrote:Arbuckle23 wrote:Surely the Police can't ignore that one ?
You saw the truck response.
I would simply respond "where in Rule 126 does it say that driving under the speed limit is sufficient to provide a safe stopping distance?" And furthermore ask the cop and his OIC if they would be happy with the drivers' response if it was the officer stood on the road assisting a vehicle who had broken down in the same position the bicycle was in when the truck driver went through the rear quarter of the vehicle at 50kph because he was travelling too fast to safely stop within his sighting distance.BianchiCam wrote: Due to the fact that the driver was driving under the speed limit, was aware of your presence there and believed they had given you enough space with an oncoming vehicle the driver is eligible for an Adult caution. I have also given the driver an education into new legislation regarding cyclists and highlighted to them that a driver is allowed to pass over double white lines where safe to do so.
This has gone to a different station. Not Beerwah. So will see.trailgumby wrote:F*** me, that was close.Mere inches off your mirror, judging by the rear facing bar cam.
That car never left the lane. You were right on the paint, it appears.
How wide is the lane, how wide is the car, and what is the speed limit?
I have but when I said i wanted an infringement issued, they tried to talk me out of itBianchiCam wrote:Never have i been asked, "would you like to proceed with an infringement"
Yeah that was a absolute shocker! I really hope that the Police take that one seriously!BianchiCam wrote:This has gone to a different station. Not Beerwah. So will see.trailgumby wrote:F*** me, that was close.
That car never left the lane. You were right on the paint, it appears.
How wide is the lane, how wide is the car, and what is the speed limit?
I believe it is an 80kmh zone.
Measurements? Dont think there is much need but the wind off the wingmirror was pretty focused on my elbow.
Goes to beyond reasonable doubt. Kind of important for success in prosecuting criminal matters, which this is. Not doing this may in part explain your relatively low success rate?BianchiCam wrote:Measurements? Dont think there is much need but the wind off the wingmirror was pretty focused on my elbow.
Hmm, just speculating here, but, given that the one metre passing distance law is "cut and dry", after all, a metre is a metre, surely this is now a precedent for any other cut and dry law?Cheesewheel wrote:There is practically zero scope for justifying breaking any other cut and dry traffic regulation (eg, speeding, drinking red light etc) .... let alone on the basis of the claimants hearsay of a historical incident .... for instance if the truck driver blew through a red light and tried to talk his way out of it on by telling a story about how he came to a stop 6 months ago and broke a horses leg yada yada it would just be so much hot air, a traffic fine, and a boss that would question whether he wants this fool behind the wheel.
The whole point of the minimum passing distance was to standardize it to cut short the legal circus of establishing intention (ie, if the driver thought it was safe before he initiated the manoeuvre, thats ok, nevermind the maths). Imagine the overtime legal professionals would have if speeding, drink driving, running red light offenses could be challenged by historical hearsay .... in all these other cases, all they want to know is were you going faster than the speed limit ... was your blood alcohol level over the limit .... did your car go through the red light (interestingly, even if you roll through a red light to clear the lane for an ambulance with sirens blaring, you can still get pinged .... they are that much of a stickler for details) ... yet suddenly in the case of minimum passing of a cyclist there seems to be a bevy of unwritten clauses to avoid a fine.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/3 ... eo-online/jasonc wrote:Saw you on TV tonight bianchicam - ch7 Brisbane.
also a serial traffic offender having served jail time for driving without a license and had only recently regained his license:Ross wrote:The man suspected of causing a south coast crash that killed himself, a Sydney couple and left two sisters fighting for their lives was driving home from a methadone clinic.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/nsw/tri ... 0b1a0.html
as pointed out by others lots of questionable actions resulting from questionable attitude to road safety for vulnerable users:BianchiCam wrote:Trucks seem to be a common problem for me.
Vic 2016
As you may remember. This 'gentleman' ran me off the road.
He also recieved a fine for 'crossing solid lines' which is about as serious as you can get (sarcasm)
Full forward to Qld 2017. The state with the 'Rule'
Cut and dried infringement?
Well according to the legislation you would think so.
Not when Beerwah Police are involved. Not the first time I have had such 'interesting' reasons why a caution is warranted.
This off to complaints (again) where they will find the officer acted 'professionally (again) and the driver will be off scott free (again)
Thank you for your patience with this matter, I have now concluded the investigation and spoken with my OIC about the incident. My OIC and I have both agreed action needs to be taken and the most appropriate action in this case is an Adult Caution which will be recorded against the driver of the truck on our system.
The driver was very apologetic and wished for me to pass this on to you, at the time the driver of the truck had 7 racehorses on board returning home from a show. These horses are valued at up to $450’000. The driver has recently had a traffic incident where through no fault of their own had to heavily brake and swerve to avoid an accident which occurred in front of them, this resulted in a horse falling in the rear of the truck and subsequently being destroyed.
Your matter was reviewed by myself and my OIC as well as the truck driver, I saw in your initial letter you mention no traffic coming the other way however after re-watching the footage a small black hatch can be seen passing just seconds before hand making it very difficult to allow further space between you and the truck.
Due to the fact that the driver was driving under the speed limit, was aware of your presence there and believed they had given you enough space with an oncoming vehicle the driver is eligible for an Adult caution. I have also given the driver an education into new legislation regarding cyclists and highlighted to them that a driver is allowed to pass over double white lines where safe to do so.
Unfortunately that section of road became very narrow, Connection Road is notorious for accidents and is one of the more dangerous sections of road in our division. While I’m aware you have every right as a cyclist to use any road way I would advise caution using this particular road, we as police do not want to see any persons injured in our division.
I hope you are satisfied with this outcome, feel free to contact me if you need to discuss the matter further, the report is now finalised and I have closed this matter.
ps. I have 'contacted' him alright but for some reason I do not get a reply. How odd.
Satisfied?
Would you be?
Discuss.
Unfortunately that section of road became very narrow, Connection Road is notorious for accidents and is one of the more dangerous sections of road in our division. While I’m aware you have every right as a cyclist to use any road way I would advise caution using this particular road, we as police do not want to see any persons injured in our division.
.... missed opportunity and appalling attitude...upholding some of societies lowest standards not the law as intended to protect people..... education into new legislation regarding cyclists and highlighted to them that a driver is allowed to pass over double white lines where safe to do so.
Saw the Ch7 video....geez, the comments attracted the bogans very quickly. Apparently this wouldn't have happened if you weren't riding 3 wide and paid rego.BianchiCam wrote:This has gone to a different station. Not Beerwah. So will see.trailgumby wrote:F*** me, that was close.
That car never left the lane. You were right on the paint, it appears.
How wide is the lane, how wide is the car, and what is the speed limit?
I believe it is an 80kmh zone.
Measurements? Dont think there is much need but the wind off the wingmirror was pretty focused on my elbow.
Annoying as this is, a mobile phone never caused a refueling accident, and some service stations (here in Victoria) actually have signs up saying not to move your vehicle. It's just not standard practice around here.Ross wrote:Second one was MM at the servo filling up with fuel. I had to wait behind him because all the other bowsers were occupied. As he was filling up he pulls out his mobile phone and starts checking email/instatwitface. His phone is literally centimetres away from the open fuel tank and the bowser nozzle. Fark. Hope he doesn't blow us all up. He finally finishes and instead of courteously moving his car to the vacant parking spot in front of the shop he leaves it next to the pump and wanders inside to pay. A few minutes later he saunters out showing no sign of haste and gets back in his car and instead of driving off he looks to be playing with his phone again.
I see what you did there. Well playedBianchiCam wrote:This has gone to a different station. Not Beerwah. So will see.
Standard police poker face. They gets lots of practice. Professionally honed.queequeg wrote:Anyway, not sure how the police could say with a straight face that they investigate these matters.
That's some mighty fine victim blaming right there.fishwop wrote:SMH/Perth Today 23/12/17If this gentleman had been running cameras on his bike, the truck driver could have been identified and put off the road. Instead he's still out there risking all our lives.'Riding for his life': Sydney cyclist run off remote WA road...
A mother involved in an Adelaide Hills car crash that killed her young son last month and injured two other children allegedly had methamphetamine in her system at the time.
The 34-year-old Callington woman was driving home from Victor Harbor after a family holiday when the silver station wagon hit a tree on Brookman Road at Kuitpo, near Meadows.
The crash happened on November 13 about 6:30am.
The woman's seven-year-old boy died at the scene, while his twin brother and two-year-old sister were taken to hospital along with their mother.
Today, police said the woman had since been arrested.
She has been charged with causing injury by dangerous driving and aggravated death by dangerous driving.
Police said the charge was aggravated because the woman had methamphetamine in her system when the crash happened.
The woman will appear in the Mount Barker Magistrates Court in March.