Moron Motorists #3
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Ross » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:11 pm
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby London Boy » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:32 pm
Hmmm. Maybe we need a device that sprays a precisely measured quantity of paint stripper along the side of any vehicle passing within a metre?BianchiCam wrote:And here are the 'reasons I was given as to why this was not considered an infringable offence
Shadow of vehicle is sufficiently over dotted line indicating the driver has taken adequate precautions (even with road markings showing otherwise)
Does not meet 'sufficiency of evidence'
Etc.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby jasonc » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:31 am
London Boy wrote:Hmmm. Maybe we need a device that sprays a precisely measured quantity of paint stripper along the side of any vehicle passing within a metre?BianchiCam wrote:And here are the 'reasons I was given as to why this was not considered an infringable offence
Shadow of vehicle is sufficiently over dotted line indicating the driver has taken adequate precautions (even with road markings showing otherwise)
Does not meet 'sufficiency of evidence'
Etc.
One of those tail lights with the lasers that draw the lines on the road?
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby duncanm » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:08 am
good old fibreglass flag pole would do the trick.London Boy wrote:Hmmm. Maybe we need a device that sprays a precisely measured quantity of paint stripper along the side of any vehicle passing within a metre?BianchiCam wrote:And here are the 'reasons I was given as to why this was not considered an infringable offence
Shadow of vehicle is sufficiently over dotted line indicating the driver has taken adequate precautions (even with road markings showing otherwise)
Does not meet 'sufficiency of evidence'
Etc.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby redsonic » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:39 am
Not on that side of the bikeduncanm wrote:
good old fibreglass flag pole would do the trick.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby outnabike » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:53 am
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Cyclophiliac » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:07 pm
I was thinking that one of those jerseys with a Police colour theme and "POLITE" written on it might be more effective. But given the attitude of many police towards cyclists, anyone wearing one of those would probably be booked for anything the police can legally dream up.London Boy wrote:Hmmm. Maybe we need a device that sprays a precisely measured quantity of paint stripper along the side of any vehicle passing within a metre?BianchiCam wrote:And here are the 'reasons I was given as to why this was not considered an infringable offence
Shadow of vehicle is sufficiently over dotted line indicating the driver has taken adequate precautions (even with road markings showing otherwise)
Does not meet 'sufficiency of evidence'
Etc.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby mikesbytes » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:23 pm
There's the neighborhood watch oneCyclophiliac wrote:I was thinking that one of those jerseys with a Police colour theme and "POLITE" written on it might be more effective. But given the attitude of many police towards cyclists, anyone wearing one of those would probably be booked for anything the police can legally dream up.London Boy wrote:Hmmm. Maybe we need a device that sprays a precisely measured quantity of paint stripper along the side of any vehicle passing within a metre?BianchiCam wrote:And here are the 'reasons I was given as to why this was not considered an infringable offence
Shadow of vehicle is sufficiently over dotted line indicating the driver has taken adequate precautions (even with road markings showing otherwise)
Does not meet 'sufficiency of evidence'
Etc.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby kenwstr » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:52 pm
Read the regulation, the passing vehicle would be required to maintain the prescribed distance from the flag pole.duncanm wrote:good old fibreglass flag pole would do the trick.London Boy wrote:Hmmm. Maybe we need a device that sprays a precisely measured quantity of paint stripper along the side of any vehicle passing within a metre?BianchiCam wrote:And here are the 'reasons I was given as to why this was not considered an infringable offence
Shadow of vehicle is sufficiently over dotted line indicating the driver has taken adequate precautions (even with road markings showing otherwise)
Does not meet 'sufficiency of evidence'
Etc.
Ken
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby InTheWoods » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:20 pm
No this is incorrect please see the actual rule in 144(3)(b)kenwstr wrote: Read the regulation, the passing vehicle would be required to maintain the prescribed distance from the flag pole.
Ken
Example of what is part of a bicycle for paragraph (b)—
a basket or pannier bags attached to the bicycle
Example of what is not part of a bicycle for paragraph (b)—
a flag or stick, whether or not flexible, attached to the bicycle,
that projects sideways from the bicycle
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby kenwstr » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:31 pm
Oh darn, I thought I had read anything attached to the bike or rider but that was a while ago.InTheWoods wrote:No this is incorrect please see the actual rule in 144(3)(b)kenwstr wrote: Read the regulation, the passing vehicle would be required to maintain the prescribed distance from the flag pole.
Ken
Example of what is part of a bicycle for paragraph (b)—
a basket or pannier bags attached to the bicycle
Example of what is not part of a bicycle for paragraph (b)—
a flag or stick, whether or not flexible, attached to the bicycle,
that projects sideways from the bicycle
How about a long narrow fishing rod holder then....
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Ross » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:35 am
High-visibility vest for cyclists available over the internet is too close to ours, police sayCyclophiliac wrote:I was thinking that one of those jerseys with a Police colour theme and "POLITE" written on it might be more effective. But given the attitude of many police towards cyclists, anyone wearing one of those would probably be booked for anything the police can legally dream up.London Boy wrote:Hmmm. Maybe we need a device that sprays a precisely measured quantity of paint stripper along the side of any vehicle passing within a metre?BianchiCam wrote:And here are the 'reasons I was given as to why this was not considered an infringable offence
Shadow of vehicle is sufficiently over dotted line indicating the driver has taken adequate precautions (even with road markings showing otherwise)
Does not meet 'sufficiency of evidence'
Etc.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/ ... 1800ba0c37
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Polite-Waist ... Sw44BYbATD
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby mikesbytes » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:05 am
And then change their mind about doing a punishment pass“A member of the public could easily mistake this clothing for that of a police officer.”
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Aushiker » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:41 pm
I still see the young person flying into the air .. horrible. From what I say the driver failed to give way despite coming from Alma Street which has a stop sign. It looks like they where looking left to see if it was clear and not checking to their right as well. At least stopped at scene.
Another cyclist was just in front of the young person and they stopped and attended as did a person from a nearby house so I didn't go across, but will notify the Police so that they can get my witness statement if required.
The young person did not appear seriously injured thank god but I suspect pretty shaken up.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Ross » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:11 pm
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-new ... 0vxac.html
One driver was clocked at almost double the limit and another busted while overtaking another car in 2018's first week with 40km/h school zones, police say.
ACT Policing issued 58 infringements to motorists for speeding in school zones last week.
"The highest speed detected last week was 76km/h in a 40km/h school zone outside Radford College, Bruce. This offence carries a $799.00 fine and [incurred] four [demerit] points," it said in a statement.
"Another driver was detected travelling at 61km/h on the incorrect side of the road while overtaking a vehicle travelling at the correct speed of 40km/h, outside St John Vianney's Primary School on Namatjira Drive, Waramanga. This offence carries a $444 fine and three [demerit] points." Licence should be cancelled on the spot, never to be re-issued and at least a $1000 fine
Officer in Charge of Traffic Operations, Station Sergeant Marcus Boorman said there was no excuse for speeding.
"Children are one of our most vulnerable road users, often behaving in ways we cannot anticipate," he said.
"The 40km/h speed limit provides motorists extra time to stop in unexpected situations, such as children running out between cars and onto our roads."
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Cyclophiliac » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:53 pm
https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 4z08b.html
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby trailgumby » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:04 pm
I remember reading a reference to some research somewhere that this vest led to more and worse punishment passes, not less. Speculation in the report was the rider was being punished for the attempted deception.mikesbytes wrote:And then change their mind about doing a punishment pass“A member of the public could easily mistake this clothing for that of a police officer.”
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby trailgumby » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:05 pm
Not in NSW. Specifically excluded.duncanm wrote:Read the regulation, the passing vehicle would be required to maintain the prescribed distance from the flag pole.kenwstr wrote:
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Thoglette » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:38 pm
The same sort of morons who get caught by automated bollards. (See the videos). Which Melbourne probably needs to catch these morons.Cyclophiliac wrote:I just don't get it. How can someone mistakenly drive into the Bourke St Mall in Melbourne? It's blindingly obvious that it's a pedestrian mall.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 4z08b.html
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby find_bruce » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:58 pm
Cyclophiliac wrote:I just don't get it. How can someone mistakenly drive into the Bourke St Mall in Melbourne? It's blindingly obvious that it's a pedestrian mall.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 4z08b.html
That would be the same morons who get caught out by the Montague St Bridge blocking their path - I mean it has been 9 whole days since the bridge was last hit.Thoglette wrote:The same sort of morons who get caught by automated bollards. (See the videos). Which Melbourne probably needs to catch these morons.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby caneye » Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:09 pm
that was a direct hit on the Cayenne .. and the pool of oil on the road after it reversed. awesome!Thoglette wrote:The same sort of morons who get caught by automated bollards. (See the videos). Which Melbourne probably needs to catch these morons.
Reason: fix quote attribution
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Cyclophiliac » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:30 am
The morons here aren't just those who contributed to this collision, but also those who continue to use the word "accident" for incidents like these.
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby Cyclophiliac » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:31 am
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
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Re: Moron Motorists #3
Postby find_bruce » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:27 am
The nested quotes can get a bit tricky & people make mistakes. I have edited caneye's post to correct the attribution.Cyclophiliac wrote:(AT) caneye: can you please quote others' posts properly? In the post 2 posts above this one, you misquoted Thoglette so that it looks like you quoted me.
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