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Agree with reporting this driver and if it was me I'd take it to the Police first, then give the company the incident number!!

I've had a couple of incidents with Hillsbus drivers myself and reporting to the company didn't seem to make much of a difference. Lip service by email.

99% of drivers are good but the 1% are crazy. I regularly use Hillsbus to commute if I don't ride and I've seen the crazies from the inside too.


Cheers, Simon

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Don't know why but this close pass bothered me ... generally indifferent to this sort of driving now days.



Andrew

Aushiker wrote:Don't know why but this close pass bothered me ... generally indifferent to this sort of driving now days.



Andrew

Didn't leave you much room. I know what you mean by becoming indifferent but that truck left you nowhere to go if there was a problem. Most selfish driving.

DS

Maybe because he just about took your head off with his mirror? Nail the mongrel.

Mulger bill wrote:Maybe because he just about took your head off with his mirror? Nail the mongrel.

WA Police and in particular the Fremantle Police where this would need to be reported will not do anything so no point reporting it to them. Basically have to be hit in such circumstances for it to be a dangerous pass.

Andrew

Blog it, Facebook it, Tweet it. Do everything you can to drive customers elsewhere. Send 'em broke.

Mulger bill wrote:

Blog it, Facebook it, Tweet it. Do everything you can to drive customers elsewhere. Send 'em broke.

You have read my mind. In the process of writing a blog post on it now. Will update once it is completed

Andrew

That's the way Andrew. If you can't get satisfaction through legal channels, go guerrilla on 'em.

Shaun

Aushiker wrote:Don't know why but this close pass bothered me ... generally indifferent to this sort of driving now days.



Andrew

Probably the result of someone with a car licence used to driving a small narrow car and having no concept of how far over they were, not that that is a worthy excuse.

Mulger bill wrote:That's the way Andrew. If you can't get satisfaction through legal channels, go guerrilla on 'em.

Blog post done and gone live and I wrote a "merry christmas" letter to the business.

Andrew

Aushiker wrote:Don't know why but this close pass bothered me ... generally indifferent to this sort of driving now days.



Andrew

Having just had my brush with the HillsBus I know how this feels. Bloody scary and that slight wonder of why this needs to be the situation...

I agree about it being this time of year. I've had about 6 or 7 incidents on the road this year that made me take evasive action (nothing too serious, except that bloody bus), but 3 have happened in the last 2 weeks. I think it's time for a holiday!

To those whinging about the bad parking - use a bar of soap to write the message on the windscreen. It will come off... Eventually ^_^

Ozkaban wrote: I think it's time for a holiday!

Oh yes ... two days to go

Andrew

Bendito wrote:To those whinging about the bad parking - use a bar of soap to write the message on the windscreen. It will come off... Eventually ^_^

Would this perhaps be with Solvol soap?

Ozkaban - are you allowed to ride in the bus lane? I know in ACT you aren't.

I know in NSW you are allowed to ride in a bus lane, but not a "bus only lane"

cheers
Glenn

Ross wrote:Ozkaban - are you allowed to ride in the bus lane? I know in ACT you aren't.

Bus lane: yes. Taxis, busses, bicycles, motor bikes are allowed andmaybe others too.

Bus Only Lane: busses only.

I'll find the legislation if I can...

Here you go:

From http://www.bicycleinfo.nsw.gov.au/ridin ... rules.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some road rules apply specifically to bicycle riders. For example, bicycle riders are allowed to:

Ride two abreast, no more than 1.5 m apart
Overtake on the left hand side of stopped or slow moving vehicles
Travel in Bus Lanes and Transit Lanes
Ride on the footpath if less than 12 years old
Ride on the footpath if you are an adult riding with, and supervising, an under 12 year old
Turn right from the left hand lane of a multi-lane roundabout with the proviso that you give way to traffic exiting the roundabout before you
Travel on road shoulders.


Bicycle riders cannot:

Ride across unsignalised pedestrian crossings
Ride across signalised crossings unless there are special bicycle lights
Travel in Bus Only Lanes.

[NSW] Road Rules 2008 s158(2)

(2) The driver of any vehicle may drive in a bicycle lane, bus lane, tram lane, transit lane or truck lane if:

(a) it is necessary for the driver to drive in the lane to avoid an obstruction, or
(b) information on or with a traffic sign applying to the lane indicates that the driver may drive in the lane, or
(c) the driver is:
(i) riding a bicycle in a bus lane (other than a bus only lane), tram lane, transit lane or truck lane, or

Aushiker wrote:Don't know why but this close pass bothered me ... generally indifferent to this sort of driving now days.

Just saw this truck's registration plate - choice . The driver was just living up to the tag


BTW Andrew, it is my experience that professional truck drivers are often the most considerate drivers on the roads. Having said that, their level of professionalism and care seems to be proportional to the value of their cargo...... and Western Suburbs Building and Landscape Supplies would generally carry cargoes of dirt and horse manure

Aushiker wrote:

Mulger bill wrote:That's the way Andrew. If you can't get satisfaction through legal channels, go guerrilla on 'em.

Blog post done and gone live and I wrote a "merry christmas" letter to the business.

Andrew

BAM!!! Noel Cowerd ghosting Billy Connolley couldn't beat that letter

[quote="Aushiker"]Don't know why but this close pass bothered me ... generally indifferent to this sort of driving now days.

Your rear camera shows that, for a pause of mere seconds, he could have ducked behind the silver car in the other lane and given you heaps of room.
Must have been a desperately urgent load of building and landscape suplies.

Aushiker wrote:
Blog post done and gone live and I wrote a "merry christmas" letter to the business.

Andrew

Nice one

Aushiker wrote:

Mulger bill wrote:That's the way Andrew. If you can't get satisfaction through legal channels, go guerrilla on 'em.

Blog post done and gone live and I wrote a "merry christmas" letter to the business.

Andrew

Looking at the footage from your rearward camera, I'd agree it's not a great pass, but the truck is positioned as far as I'd say is practicable to the right of the lane, leaving you as much room as possible - it would be a different story all together if he/she/it driving was drifting to the left.....

To open another related COW, a friend of mine posted comments on her FB wall regarding the "difficulty" of being stuck behind a slow cyclist riding on the outside line of a cycle lane I assume on a major road. Follow up comments took the usual "rego", "four abreast", "blast them with the horn", "cyclists complain when drivers don't accommodate them (offered to the discussion by my sister no less) " blah blah blah through to the also well known "run them off the road" extreme, so I fired up..... I was told that none of the replies to her thread about running a cyclist off the road could POSSIBLY be actually meant, and that I was being unreasonably defensive/aggressive in my replies, and I'd probably get a better response if I said "yes but not all cyclists are slow...... bad eggs, big bunch, etc etc etc.

It $hits me to tears that we have to be treated as a second class group of society because we avail ourselves of our rights on the road...........

I have only been in country for three weeks and have been riding every day. I have had several experiences with idiot drivers.

One, my fiancee and I were riding, staggered, but in line, 1045 at night, lights on and everything. A ute screams up behind us, honks their horn for us to move, then zooms on around us. Not another car was in sight. why the horn and the upset acceleration.

Two, I was coming up to a round about, no one is coming from the left, so I pick up the pace to get through it. A car comes up beside me, like they are going to go through first, then slows down halfway through the round about, honks his horn at me, even though he is in front of me, so I go around him. As I exit, he gives me a stink eye and speeds off. WT!?!?!

Lastly, and not from a biker pov. I was driving to my fiancee's work, and I was going down a street that didn't have a protected crosswalk. There were about 10 cyclists waiting to cross. I'm not in a hurry, so I stop to accommodate. The car behind me immediately lays on the horn for me to go. I wait until they are all across, then go directly to the queue that had formed at the round about 200 from the cross walk.

Some people.