2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby Lukeyboy » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:36 pm

Is that an offer for another 200km+ ride for me to do? :lol: :lol:
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby jasonc » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:39 pm

Lukeyboy wrote:Is that an offer for another 200km+ ride for me to do? :lol: :lol:


and then ride again new years day? oh that's right, you're less than 25
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby Daccordi Rider » Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:22 pm

I got to 238,000m. I use the iPhone app which can be optimistic but pretty sure I would've cracked the 200k Mark anyway which was my target. Enjoyed the challenge, it kept me focused during winter and led to some good race results, particularly races with KOM's. :D
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby toolonglegs » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:25 pm

Didn't achieve any goals in the end 13,000 kms with only 118k in altitude.
Hopefully I can do more climbs this year... But to honest I would be happy to half the climbing completed this year if I could swap it for climbing faster ;-) , last year I never really hit peak form due to work commitments ( which didn't always mean time off the bike, but did mean backing off for two week periods always at the wrong time! )... Let's hope 2014 goes a bit better. good luck all.
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby singlespeedscott » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:22 am

Daccordi Rider wrote:I got to 238,000m. I use the iPhone app which can be optimistic but pretty sure I would've cracked the 200k Mark anyway which was my target. Enjoyed the challenge, it kept me focused during winter and led to some good race results, particularly races with KOM's. :D


I have always found my phone to be just as accurate as my mates riding with Garmins. Sometimes their up. Sometimes there down. The deviations in accuracy are no different between my phone and a Garmin then between a few Garmins on the same ride.
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby biker jk » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:14 am

singlespeedscott wrote:
Daccordi Rider wrote:I got to 238,000m. I use the iPhone app which can be optimistic but pretty sure I would've cracked the 200k Mark anyway which was my target. Enjoyed the challenge, it kept me focused during winter and led to some good race results, particularly races with KOM's. :D


I have always found my phone to be just as accurate as my mates riding with Garmins. Sometimes their up. Sometimes there down. The deviations in accuracy are no different between my phone and a Garmin then between a few Garmins on the same ride.


A guy I ride with occasionally or we cover the same route separately always has a lot more altitude gain using his phone versus my Garmin.
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby boss » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:03 am

biker jk wrote:
singlespeedscott wrote:
Daccordi Rider wrote:I got to 238,000m. I use the iPhone app which can be optimistic but pretty sure I would've cracked the 200k Mark anyway which was my target. Enjoyed the challenge, it kept me focused during winter and led to some good race results, particularly races with KOM's. :D


I have always found my phone to be just as accurate as my mates riding with Garmins. Sometimes their up. Sometimes there down. The deviations in accuracy are no different between my phone and a Garmin then between a few Garmins on the same ride.


A guy I ride with occasionally or we cover the same route separately always has a lot more altitude gain using his phone versus my Garmin.


+1 the elevation maps that Strava uses for the iPhone app aren't accurate from what I've seen. from 10-50% gain.

From my Strava gazing, at the Vic snowfields its worse. Hotham on an Iphone will get you 4100m. Garmin says 1900m. You often see dudes who head out there getting 15,000m in a week while their garmin buddies are well under 10,000m.
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby Dimma » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:40 am

Since I purchased a 510 my elevation is at least 50% higher than when using iPhone.

iPhone 450m http://www.strava.com/activities/39682861
Garmin 510 840m http://www.strava.com/activities/90340668
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby boss » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:54 am

Dimma wrote:Since I purchased a 510 my elevation is at least 50% higher than when using iPhone.

iPhone 450m http://www.strava.com/activities/39682861
Garmin 510 840m http://www.strava.com/activities/90340668


Perusing your rides and comparing the elevation numbers with your buddies, it would appear there is something wrong with your Garmin.

Do you have it on an out-front style mount, or another type of mount that covers up the small holes in the base (these are how it measures altitude).
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby Daccordi Rider » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:56 pm

When I was at Bright last year the elevation gain was ridicuously inaccurate. I don't know how these things work being a bit of a luddite. I have a Mavic altimeter on my bike and the iphone is generally 10% generous, occasionally more. However the mavic measures within 100m stretches I think and if you go up and down within the measures stretch so the net gain is nothing then nothing is recorded so this can be a bit under what is actually done. I'm doing the Alpine Classic in a few week and it will be interesting to see what altitude gain Strava gives me. Should be a big one.... :lol:
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby Daccordi Rider » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:03 pm

I rode Bright to Hotham and Back in 2012 and registered 2550m in gain on the phone.
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2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby kb » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:29 pm

boss wrote:From my Strava gazing, at the Vic snowfields its worse. Hotham on an Iphone will get you 4100m. Garmin says 1900m. You often see dudes who head out there getting 15,000m in a week while their garmin buddies are well under 10,000m.

Doh! I only got 1677m for Hotham. Just have to climb more I guess...

[edit: admittedly, that was just the climb, not from Bright]
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby boss » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:29 pm

Re: Bright to Hotham

This is the sort of thing I see around the place reasonably often. Names censored as I don't intend to name/shame... it's not really that big a deal! But it does get the point across well.

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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby Dimma » Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:44 pm

boss wrote:
Dimma wrote:Since I purchased a 510 my elevation is at least 50% higher than when using iPhone.

iPhone 450m http://www.strava.com/activities/39682861
Garmin 510 840m http://www.strava.com/activities/90340668


Perusing your rides and comparing the elevation numbers with your buddies, it would appear there is something wrong with your Garmin.

Do you have it on an out-front style mount, or another type of mount that covers up the small holes in the base (these are how it measures altitude).


Nothing wrong with Garmin just have the standard out front mount that came in the box, same as everyone else.
I think it is just more sensitive to subtle changes in elevation compared to older models.

Often I'd ride in & home from start point, do extra Mt Gravatt repeats and end up with less than guys driving to start, in the end GPS data is highly variable.
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Re: 2013 Strava Climbing Challenge

Postby Daccordi Rider » Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:43 pm

The climb of Hotham is about the 1600 you indicated KB. There is rise and fall on the run from Bright so I reckon Boss's figures of around 2000m is right for the full run. The 4000 is a hick up!! As you said GPS is only as good as the map it runs off. An Altimeter on the bike counts the actual ride as you do it.

Going off last years figures the iphone will give me 7100m climbing for the classic vs an actual of 3800. I'll let you all know the result when its done.
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