Just my opinion, but I think Tim Gilbert is giving it a good crack. He's got a better handle on cycling than Voss and I don't feel like he's laughing at the sport (my real problem with Voss). I know Tomalaris has a real passion for cycling, but as a host, Gilbert isn't comparing unfavourably.jimsheedy wrote:Re the nine ring in. Whenever I see that meathead or any other non cycling chump wheeled out it always reminds me of the clueless commentator in the movie Best in show.
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Postby doggatas » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:49 pm
Robbie is great value as well, says it how it is and give good insight into a lot of the current riders.
I must admit I am not experiencing the same issues as others because I am not watching the highlights package, I am recording it and watching after work.
My only gripe is not the commercial adds but the advertisements about SA and Adelaide spoken by Phil Ligget during the live broadcast. 1 or 2 would be ok at non critical moments but the producer is throwing them in far too often for my liking and poor Phil, i swear sometimes he doesn't even know they are about to cut to footage of Adelaide and its surrounds.
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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:29 pm
Since the SA Govt is bankrolling the event, it's to be expected they will get air time. I don't mind them.
A lot of people who watch TdF coverage do so for the scenery and local interest info as much as the race itself, and so giving public some info about the local region is a plus in my books.
Gilbert is fine - it's not like he's pretending to be an expert. New viewers to cycling need familiar faces and to not feel as though they are the only ones not totally sure about how it all works.
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Postby jcjordan » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:54 pm
Base on the figures put out by KPMG last year 4 million was put in as organising fees and they estimated that around 6-7 came back in state taxes but even more back into the general economy.
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Postby doggatas » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:42 pm
Looked up the Corkscrew segment on Strava http://app.strava.com/segments/632509 and the KOM belongs to Damien Howson, who I believe is riding in the TDU but that effort is not from the TDU. There are a couple of efforts on page 2 from the 23rd.
Would have Thomas' VAM for the climb been close to 2000 or way beyond that? I may rewatch the climb and time his ascent to get a rough idea.
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Postby Mulger bill » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:51 pm
Which were put back by the cricket ODI running a good 35" overtime. I gave up and went to bed.AUbicycles wrote:I have tried to be positive about the coverage on Channel 9 however today it was moved back with two episodes of an American Sitcom which are probably reruns.
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Postby Rex » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:02 pm
Robbie is fantastic.
Big step forward imo.
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Postby jimsheedy » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:08 pm
Yep thats exactly the sort of lowest common denominator morning television buffoonery i'd expect from him. Embarrassingdanny the boy wrote: Gilbert has been pretty good, stripped down to lycra this morning on the Today show and jumped on a Green Edge bike, seems like he's having a ball over there for someone who openly admits he knows little about cycling.
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Postby RonK » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:57 pm
Really - all of that and not a peep from the commentary team?At least 20 riders came to grief, 15 of those hitting the road and the ambulance called. Among those was Gilbert who would be pushed to the finish line by his teammates with a wrecked rear derailleur. Jesse Sergeant, Jens Voigt (RadioShack Leopard), Bernard Sulzberger (UniSA - Australia), and Cameron Wurf (Cannondale) were other casualties. Amaud Courteille (FDJ) was the only rider not to finish the race, taken to hospital with a possible broken nose and mild concussion while Movistar’s Giovanni Visconti was taken to hospital for precautionary x-rays. Ian Stannard (Sky), Jose Herrade (Movistar), Tomaz Marczynski (Vacansoleil), Julian Kearn, Blel Kadri (AG2R), Mikel Astarloza (Euskaltel Euskadi) were treated at the finish for cuts and abrasions.
Sulzberger had a dislocated finger which he fixed himself.
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And what did that have to do with it being on Channel 9, versus another channel that would have broadcast exactly the same feed supplied to it, with commentary based on the information available to them at the time? Like or hate Phil & Paul, I've not once known them to not report on a crash/other incident when they are made aware of it by the race radio.RonK wrote:The coverage of the final of yesterdays stage (Stage 2) was a pathetic. There was no mention about the crash near the finish that took out many of the contenders. I didn't know until I read on Cycling News this morning that Phil Gil had to be pushed to the line by his team, with his bike's rear derailleur broken.
Really - all of that and not a peep from the commentary team?At least 20 riders came to grief, 15 of those hitting the road and the ambulance called. Among those was Gilbert who would be pushed to the finish line by his teammates with a wrecked rear derailleur. Jesse Sergeant, Jens Voigt (RadioShack Leopard), Bernard Sulzberger (UniSA - Australia), and Cameron Wurf (Cannondale) were other casualties. Amaud Courteille (FDJ) was the only rider not to finish the race, taken to hospital with a possible broken nose and mild concussion while Movistar’s Giovanni Visconti was taken to hospital for precautionary x-rays. Ian Stannard (Sky), Jose Herrade (Movistar), Tomaz Marczynski (Vacansoleil), Julian Kearn, Blel Kadri (AG2R), Mikel Astarloza (Euskaltel Euskadi) were treated at the finish for cuts and abrasions.
Sulzberger had a dislocated finger which he fixed himself.
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Postby jimsheedy » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:27 am
+1Alex Simmons/RST wrote:And what did that have to do with it being on Channel 9, versus another channel that would have broadcast exactly the same feed supplied to it, with commentary based on the information available to them at the time? Like or hate Phil & Paul, I've not once known them to not report on a crash/other incident when they are made aware of it by the race radio.RonK wrote:The coverage of the final of yesterdays stage (Stage 2) was a pathetic. There was no mention about the crash near the finish that took out many of the contenders. I didn't know until I read on Cycling News this morning that Phil Gil had to be pushed to the line by his team, with his bike's rear derailleur broken.
Really - all of that and not a peep from the commentary team?At least 20 riders came to grief, 15 of those hitting the road and the ambulance called. Among those was Gilbert who would be pushed to the finish line by his teammates with a wrecked rear derailleur. Jesse Sergeant, Jens Voigt (RadioShack Leopard), Bernard Sulzberger (UniSA - Australia), and Cameron Wurf (Cannondale) were other casualties. Amaud Courteille (FDJ) was the only rider not to finish the race, taken to hospital with a possible broken nose and mild concussion while Movistar’s Giovanni Visconti was taken to hospital for precautionary x-rays. Ian Stannard (Sky), Jose Herrade (Movistar), Tomaz Marczynski (Vacansoleil), Julian Kearn, Blel Kadri (AG2R), Mikel Astarloza (Euskaltel Euskadi) were treated at the finish for cuts and abrasions.
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Same here.Sparx wrote:Can anyone get the live streaming to work? I've watched the previous stages but it isn't working for me now.
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Postby Shred931 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:49 pm
Excellent. There I was thinking I might be forced to work this afternoon lol.Sparx wrote:Working now!!! I think they just had the times wrong
Edit: Not working for me, oh well, back to work.
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Postby boss » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:58 pm
Alex Simmons/RST wrote:And what did that have to do with it being on Channel 9, versus another channel that would have broadcast exactly the same feed supplied to it, with commentary based on the information available to them at the time? Like or hate Phil & Paul, I've not once known them to not report on a crash/other incident when they are made aware of it by the race radio.RonK wrote:The coverage of the final of yesterdays stage (Stage 2) was a pathetic. There was no mention about the crash near the finish that took out many of the contenders. I didn't know until I read on Cycling News this morning that Phil Gil had to be pushed to the line by his team, with his bike's rear derailleur broken.
Really - all of that and not a peep from the commentary team?At least 20 riders came to grief, 15 of those hitting the road and the ambulance called. Among those was Gilbert who would be pushed to the finish line by his teammates with a wrecked rear derailleur. Jesse Sergeant, Jens Voigt (RadioShack Leopard), Bernard Sulzberger (UniSA - Australia), and Cameron Wurf (Cannondale) were other casualties. Amaud Courteille (FDJ) was the only rider not to finish the race, taken to hospital with a possible broken nose and mild concussion while Movistar’s Giovanni Visconti was taken to hospital for precautionary x-rays. Ian Stannard (Sky), Jose Herrade (Movistar), Tomaz Marczynski (Vacansoleil), Julian Kearn, Blel Kadri (AG2R), Mikel Astarloza (Euskaltel Euskadi) were treated at the finish for cuts and abrasions.
Sulzberger had a dislocated finger which he fixed himself.
Announcing for that race was a bit of a !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! up. They completely missed the turn into Corkscrew road. When I was watching it live I was like 'What, they're already on the switchbacks?!?!' It seemed like their calculations were wrong - at 17 or 18km out they said they were 7km from the climb. But watching closely, you see them turn into Corkscrew Rd at 14 or 15km.
You see the guys getting into the first bit of tough stuff (12-13%) on Corkscrew and they're commentating how the Gorge undulates blah blah blah. It isn't till they hit that first switchback that the announcers realized they were on Corkscrew.
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Postby Sparx » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:10 pm
Shred931 wrote:Excellent. There I was thinking I might be forced to work this afternoon lol.Sparx wrote:Working now!!! I think they just had the times wrong
Edit: Not working for me, oh well, back to work.
I can only get it it work with the video quality on the 'LO' setting
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Re: Is Channel 9 trying to kill cycling
Postby Shred931 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:14 pm
Thanks mate!Sparx wrote:Shred931 wrote:Excellent. There I was thinking I might be forced to work this afternoon lol.Sparx wrote:Working now!!! I think they just had the times wrong
Edit: Not working for me, oh well, back to work.
I can only get it it work with the video quality on the 'LO' setting
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