HA! Wearing jeans&t-shirt is not a tribal unifiorm in our general society! Wearing jeans&t-shirt down the street will not encourage people to draw immediate stereotypes and will not get friendly nods from other people wearing jeans&t-shirt!simonn wrote:All clothing is part of a tribal uniform. I would argue that by wearing lyc^K^K^Kcycle specific clothing the problem is that you are not conforming the dominant tribal norms - small petty minded humans that we are.human909 wrote:There is nothing wrong with Lycra. But recognise that its role in Australian cycling is much more than just comfort. It is a tribal uniform. By wearing Lycra you are joining the tribe of the Lycra clad. By doing so you get all the benefits of a tribe. But you also get stereotyped by doing so.
Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:53 pm
Like I said, I REALLY don't care what I wear, I make my own decision based on my comfort in the circumstances - temperature, other weather conditions, general setting, distance ridden. I don't contact my friends to get an idea of what they will be wearinghuman909 wrote:Since I REALLY don't care what I wear (shorts or just nicks) I left the decision to her!
As an idea here is what our group wore for a recent 60km ride on country roads last Saturday. A fair mix of lycra, casual shirts, long-sleeve polo shirts etc. Most wore lycra knicks.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Lukeyboy » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:55 pm
Hi, I'm Eddie Mcguire and welcome to Channel 9's coverage of the 2013 Redneck Olympic Games. On tonights broadcast.human909 wrote:HA! Wearing jeans&t-shirt is not a tribal unifiorm in our general society! Wearing jeans&t-shirt down the street will not encourage people to draw immediate stereotypes and will not get friendly nods from other people wearing jeans&t-shirt!simonn wrote:All clothing is part of a tribal uniform. I would argue that by wearing lyc^K^K^Kcycle specific clothing the problem is that you are not conforming the dominant tribal norms - small petty minded humans that we are.human909 wrote:There is nothing wrong with Lycra. But recognise that its role in Australian cycling is much more than just comfort. It is a tribal uniform. By wearing Lycra you are joining the tribe of the Lycra clad. By doing so you get all the benefits of a tribe. But you also get stereotyped by doing so.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Nobody » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:56 pm
The question is, is a polyester summer jersey actually cooler than a cotton T shirt? I would say no. I would say most people wear polyester jerseys for the pockets, aero and visibility advantages.gdt wrote:What else are you going to wear when commuting 40Km to 80Km per day in Adelaide heat? Not wearing the right kit in extreme weather is simply irresponsible.
As for spandex shorts, are they actually cooler than the alternatives? They are definately more aero, but I would not say they are necessarily cooler, especially with the padding.
As for controlling chafe, there may be advantages with spandex for applying substances, but this really depends on what saddle you use and how often you stand up. I don't get a lot of problems with the leather saddles in regard to chafe or overheating.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:02 pm
Wcking of perspiration. Cotton gets 'orribly clammy.Nobody wrote:The question is, is a polyester summer jersey actually cooler than a cotton T shirt? I would say no. I would say most people wear polyester jerseys for the pockets, aero and visibility advantages.
Often cooler. Baggy shorts with an inner liner get quite warm and sweaty on hot days. I'm going to look forward to my next pair of knicks as I'll get the GE lycra/merino ones and they should wick moisture (perspiration) very nicely.Nobody wrote:As for spandex shorts, are they actually cooler than the alternatives? They are definately more aero, but I would not say they are necessarily cooler, especially with the padding.
The smooth surface of knicks moves very nicely over a leather saddle, reducing skin-chafe.
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"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Comedian » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:24 pm
Bne for my longish commutes.
For my sport rides... On the roadie always yes. For mtbing in winter I wear mtb shorts but in the QLD summer I'm Lycra all the way too. It's just too hot and sweaty for anything else...
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby ILMB » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:36 pm
Love merino wool in cooler weather.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby simonn » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:46 pm
It is definitely a tribal uniform in western culture.human909 wrote:HA! Wearing jeans&t-shirt is not a tribal unifiorm in our general society! Wearing jeans&t-shirt down the street will not encourage people to draw immediate stereotypes and will not get friendly nods from other people wearing jeans&t-shirt!simonn wrote:All clothing is part of a tribal uniform. I would argue that by wearing lyc^K^K^Kcycle specific clothing the problem is that you are not conforming the dominant tribal norms - small petty minded humans that we are.human909 wrote:There is nothing wrong with Lycra. But recognise that its role in Australian cycling is much more than just comfort. It is a tribal uniform. By wearing Lycra you are joining the tribe of the Lycra clad. By doing so you get all the benefits of a tribe. But you also get stereotyped by doing so.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:57 pm
All very fine for the ride to the shops or a bike path burble. Doesn't work so well for an 80km ride on a windy day.ILMB wrote:I'll always prefer a light cotton skirt and blouse that lets the air-flow through over anything form fitting.
As many have been saying here - it's horses for courses.
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Postby g-boaf » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:03 pm
Doing 30km or further in 30°C+ heat, I can't imagine a T-shirt and jeans would be particularly nice.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Daccordi Rider » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:29 pm
What? Surely those people should just be taken out the back and shot.Nobody wrote:It is.warthog1 wrote:It's not.Mrfenejeans wrote:I never considered "Not wearing" lycra as an option
Plenty of people wear plain clothing that don't have to be the fastest.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby outnabike » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:01 pm
TDC wrote:Show of hands - who wears bathers to the beach?
Show of hands - who has a Lycra seat and cycles nude? Nothing clammy then right?
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby ILMB » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:21 pm
IL, you're inferring I don't do serious KMs in a day.il padrone wrote:All very fine for the ride to the shops or a bike path burble. Doesn't work so well for an 80km ride on a windy day.ILMB wrote:I'll always prefer a light cotton skirt and blouse that lets the air-flow through over anything form fitting.
As many have been saying here - it's horses for courses.
I regularly do 40 - 50 kms a day depending on where the day's chores and commitments take me. So far I have not seen any need for any sort of specialised cycling gear, and don't believe the lack thereof has in any way impeded my cycling enjoyment.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby il padrone » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:28 pm
Not at all. I'm suggesting that shorter rides - even 40-50kms - around town are a different experience to 80+kms on the open road. Especially when sustained for some time as part of a multi-day tour.ILMB wrote:IL, you're inferring I don't do serious KMs in a day.
Like I said, horses for courses.
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Postby clackers » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:21 pm
Jerseys on all three, and only occasionally skirt and blouse.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby queequeg » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:34 pm
After getting red raw chafing on my thighs and nipples, I switched to shorts with a Lycra padded liner and quick dry polyester shirts. Chafing issues solved!
for commuting I wear MTB shorts with liners, plus a non-Lycra jersey. For the roadie I wear bib Knicks and jersey, but on the roadie I am usually doing a long fast ride. Both choices are for comfort!
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:46 pm
There's pics out there if you know where to searchfind_bruce wrote:Yeah sure Il Padrone, how many times have you ridden 80 ks in a skirt & blouse ?
Cotton? Stays sweaty, gets cold when you stop. Not for many a year...
I'll wear a polyester T shirt most of the time but on a stinker the extra venting of a full zip is priceless.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby find_bruce » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:53 pm
Thank you for proving that ignorance is blissMulger bill wrote:There's pics out there if you know where to searchfind_bruce wrote:Yeah sure Il Padrone, how many times have you ridden 80 ks in a skirt & blouse ?
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby simonn » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:18 am
I spend about 10 hours a week commuting 48km a day with about 700-1000M of climbing (depending on what source you want to believe) in heat, rain, dust storms (well there was one once) etc etc none of which are conducive to riding in work clothes.
So, I could...
1) buy/ride with non-cycling specific clothing to satisfy some, IMHO idiot's, aesthetic and/or social sensibilities and deal with the chafing and smell
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2) buy/ride with cycle specific clothing which is comfortable, doesn't smell (as much) and dries out during the day should it have rained in the morning.
Basically, I'm not stoopid and don't really care if some newb (or potential newb) or old hand is put off by me riding in whatever I want to ride. If they are that small minded, because if me riding in lycra is a genuine reason for them not cycling (or whatever, really) they certainly are small minded, they, IMHO, deserve no value placed on their opinion on anything and I certainly do not care if such petty people cycle or not.
However, should I ride a few km to the beach, shops around to mum's or the in-laws etc I'll more than likely just wear "normal" clothes.
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Re: Show of hands - who cycles in lycra?
Postby Boognoss » Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:40 am
+1 except that I rarely if ever do short trips to shops, etc (and for me it's 40km to the nearest beach )simonn wrote:The way I see it is thus...
I spend about 10 hours a week commuting 48km a day with about 700-1000M of climbing (depending on what source you want to believe) in heat, rain, dust storms (well there was one once) etc etc none of which are conducive to riding in work clothes.
So, I could...
1) buy/ride with non-cycling specific clothing to satisfy some, IMHO idiot's, aesthetic and/or social sensibilities and deal with the chafing and smell
or
2) buy/ride with cycle specific clothing which is comfortable, doesn't smell (as much) and dries out during the day should it have rained in the morning.
Basically, I'm not stoopid and don't really care if some newb (or potential newb) or old hand is put off by me riding in whatever I want to ride. If they are that small minded, because if me riding in lycra is a genuine reason for them not cycling (or whatever, really) they certainly are small minded, they, IMHO, deserve no value placed on their opinion on anything and I certainly do not care if such petty people cycle or not.
However, should I ride a few km to the beach, shops around to mum's or the in-laws etc I'll more than likely just wear "normal" clothes.
Always lycra for me.
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