[POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confession

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Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confession?

Poll ended at Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:44 pm

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 90

Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby AUbicycles » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:59 pm

On the Oprah Interview - there is no reason to target her. She has a natural interest in ratings and her approach in the leadup and promotion was not unexpected. The style and approach of the interview was not unexpected, of course Lance knew that it was not hard hitting and Oprah was more than willing to run the interview - Armstrong chose this format.

What I found was better than expected was the brief background of certain specifics and the questioning of these. In the first part we did get questions on UCI Bribes, Emma O'Reilly and Cortisone, Betsy Andreu, Masterminding doping, firing teammates for not doping, Tour de Suiss, Michelle Ferrari, Motoman. Oprah has done her bit in asking the right questions and sure she has a general audience and not a cycling audience. If Lance had of engaged her on these questions then we could have had more answers - however this didn't happen. The second part was more "emotional" and not what "fact-finders" were after, but thats ok - this is really her style and the main thing, she didn't neglect many of the important questions.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby gururug » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:06 pm

Oprah allowed him to be vague. Her questions where pretty good although she didn't "press" enough when called for. You almost got the feeling that he was instructed to be there rather than sincerely relenting. None the less it's a step forward and I hope neither of them benefits economically for it and the proceeds go to anti-doping / foundation.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby jimsheedy » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:16 pm

For the lightweight celebrity PR booster that is Oprah , it was a good interview.

She didn't probe the questions because shes not a journalist. She doesn't have the skill or knowledge to do that.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:03 am

jimsheedy wrote:For the lightweight celebrity PR booster that is Oprah , it was a good interview.

She didn't probe the questions because shes not a journalist. She doesn't have the skill or knowledge to do that.

Indeed - she is simply a marketing/PR channel. At times a dangerous one with the amount of pseudoscience medical nonsense touted via her show/channel.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby sogood » Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:32 pm

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:Indeed - she is simply a marketing/PR channel. At times a dangerous one with the amount of pseudoscience medical nonsense touted via her show/channel.

In societal parle, she is an open minded interviewer! LOL
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby MarkG » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:35 pm

Her Oprah network is flagging, so it was more about publicity and PR for that than anything about grilling Lance.

Americans love forgiving their celebs, so it was just another Charlie Sheen moment really..
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby Mulger bill » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:53 pm

MarkG wrote:Americans love forgiving their celebs, so it was just another Charlie Sheen moment really..

You mean Rancid was using tiger blood as well? :shock:

When will these shocking revelations end?
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby MarkG » Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:56 pm

O...k... :?:
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby boss » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:57 am

:roll:

I admit that I was interested in hearing the confession. But seriously guys. This thread is an exercise in monotony.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby jimsheedy » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:13 am

So what's your plan?
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby boss » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:21 am

Keep calm and carry on... live a happy life, ride a bike every day of the week. Same thing I've done as long as I can remember.

Full knowing that nothing I think about anything will change said anything.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby Apple » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:34 am

How can you not forgive this man. :D
If he needs time out, I will let him stay with me 8)

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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby jimsheedy » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:38 am

boss wrote:Keep calm and carry on... live a happy life, ride a bike every day of the week. Same thing I've done as long as I can remember.

Full knowing that nothing I think about anything will change said anything.


Sounds a bit monotonous .
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby boss » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:41 am

jimsheedy wrote:
boss wrote:Keep calm and carry on... live a happy life, ride a bike every day of the week. Same thing I've done as long as I can remember.

Full knowing that nothing I think about anything will change said anything.


Sounds a bit monotonous .


Ehhh, it's not that bad. I won't complain. I'm one of those people that likes being happy. And of course doing something they enjoy. 8)
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby scotto » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:04 am

Apple wrote:How can you not forgive this man. :D
If he needs time out, I will let him stay with me 8)

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i'd ride with him. let all the sanctimonious haters go on with 30 pages of posting. he doped, ( like they all did), he was better then the rest at it, and didnt care who he hurt along the way. he's over it. let him race again if he wants after a consistent penalty. after all, we have the like of contador and f. schleck riding, vinakourov on the olympic podium.


i want to use tall 'poppy' syndrome but better not.... ( do they test for opium?)
reminds me of an unreleased seinfeld episode where lance was a guest star

Peterman: I'm afraid I have some bad news, Lance,. It appears you will not be accompanying me to France

Lance: What? Why not?

Peterman: I'm afraid it's your urine, Lance. You tested positive for opium.

Lance: Opium?

Peterman: That's right Lance. White lotus. Yam-yam. Shanghai Sally.

Thats: That's impossible, I've never done a drug in my life. Dr. Ferrari must have made a mistake.

Peterman: Not a chance. I'm afraid I'll just have to find someone else to accompany me on my journey. The continent is no place for an addict.
Lance: let me see... (fumbling in pockets) I have this old prescription for opium....maybe a small donation....?
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby sogood » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:22 am

MarkG wrote:Americans love forgiving their celebs, so it was just another Charlie Sheen moment really..

In relative terms to US celebs, this is a storm in a tea cup. So no surprise.

Americans love their heroes, especially one that turned the Europeans upside down.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby Chuck » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:41 am

sogood wrote:
MarkG wrote:Americans love forgiving their celebs, so it was just another Charlie Sheen moment really..

In relative terms to US celebs, this is a storm in a tea cup. So no surprise.

Americans love their heroes, especially one that turned the Europeans upside down.


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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby sogood » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:44 am

Chuck wrote:
sogood wrote:
MarkG wrote:Americans love forgiving their celebs, so it was just another Charlie Sheen moment really..

In relative terms to US celebs, this is a storm in a tea cup. So no surprise.
Americans love their heroes, especially one that turned the Europeans upside down.

You know a lot of stuff.

So must you too.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby Chuck » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:46 am

scotto wrote: haters


I doubt we'll ever hear Armstrong use that term again.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby jimsheedy » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:48 am

boss wrote:
jimsheedy wrote:
boss wrote:
Ehhh, it's not that bad. I won't complain.


Recent Evidence would suggest otherwise.

boss wrote::roll:

But seriously guysThis thread is an exercise in monotony.



My point being if the thread doesn't interest you anymore, stop following it or try to add something that will make it more interesting. Complaining that it is monotonous is well self fulfilling really.
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby boss » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:19 am

jimsheedy wrote:
boss wrote:
Ehhh, it's not that bad. I won't complain.


Recent Evidence would suggest otherwise.



Replace sarcasm detector dude.

jimsheedy wrote:
boss wrote::roll:

But seriously guysThis thread is an exercise in monotony.



My point being if the thread doesn't interest you anymore, stop following it or try to add something that will make it more interesting. Complaining that it is monotonous is well self fulfilling really.


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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby Chuck » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:48 am

boss wrote:
jimsheedy wrote:
boss wrote:
Ehhh, it's not that bad. I won't complain.


Recent Evidence would suggest otherwise.



Replace sarcasm detector dude.

jimsheedy wrote:
boss wrote::roll:

But seriously guysThis thread is an exercise in monotony.



My point being if the thread doesn't interest you anymore, stop following it or try to add something that will make it more interesting. Complaining that it is monotonous is well self fulfilling really.


:roll:


This whole Lance Armstrong confession thing is tearing us apart....

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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby boss » Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:50 am

Chuck wrote:
This whole Lance Armstrong confession thing is tearing us apart....

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:P


He's ruined us!
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby biker jk » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:55 pm

Here's how good Armstrong was without the drugs. Just thought I had to post this for those that keep claiming it was a level playing field and Armstrong just beat other dopers (when in fact he was the greatest doper in the history of sport and EPO turned donkeys in racehorses).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmR9k8UAohs
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Re: [POLL] Are you satisfied with the Lance Armstrong Confes

Postby sogood » Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:32 pm

biker jk wrote:Here's how good Armstrong was without the drugs. Just thought I had to post this for those that keep claiming it was a level playing field and Armstrong just beat other dopers (when in fact he was the greatest doper in the history of sport and EPO turned donkeys in racehorses).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmR9k8UAohs

Seriously, that means little.

I note that all the big names of the time and prior have been tainted by dope or strong speculation of it, Eddy Merckx and Miguel Indurain included.

The irony I think in LA and Contador's cases was, the whole of Spain stood behind Contador while LA got nailed by his fellow countrymen. The Spaniards are just different.
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