that's false, but anyhooo...winstonw wrote:...but as Alex has invested significant time in,
but complying with the rules is notwinstonw wrote:weight is overrated.
Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:29 pm
that's false, but anyhooo...winstonw wrote:...but as Alex has invested significant time in,
but complying with the rules is notwinstonw wrote:weight is overrated.
Postby mjd » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:26 pm
Postby skull » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:35 pm
Postby zero » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:42 am
I believe that the hour record Sam Whittingham set was in a 27kg bike. It was only 90km/hr after allwinstonw wrote:...but as Alex has invested significant time in, weight is overrated.zero wrote:
Its underweight by a full kg.
Postby nickl » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:15 pm
I've lost track as to which side of the argument you are on.winstonw wrote: what Alex!!!???? you base your absolutist weight vs aero statements on "a couple of charts pertaining to a particular scenario"....
I look forward to your charts evolving to accommodate real world scenarios integrating variable yaw and velocity, as do Enve's.
If your best defense of your stance is that all wheel manufacturers' R&D is smoke and mirrors marketing hype, then put the challenge out to all of their guys that your grasp on aero vs weight is better informed.
Postby skull » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:29 pm
Postby Xplora » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:49 pm
Postby Nikolai » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:50 pm
6 days if you want to be accurate.skull wrote:
We all know earth was created in a week.
Postby Xplora » Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:00 pm
Wouldn't want to be scientific about it nowNikolai wrote:6 days if you want to be accurate.skull wrote:
We all know earth was created in a week.
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:28 pm
Postby zero » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:25 pm
Alright you heard the man, no more discussing aero vs weight, and absolutely no-one is to mention 29ers.Mulger bill wrote:I'm not going to point fingers but let's keep religion in any form out of this mmmkay?
Shaun
Postby Xplora » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:01 pm
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:19 am
You mentioned it once but you think you got away with it...zero wrote:...and absolutely no-one is to mention 29ers.
Postby Nikolai » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:46 pm
Send him to the sin binMulger bill wrote:You mentioned it once but you think you got away with it...zero wrote:...and absolutely no-one is to mention 29ers.
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:30 pm
She's right.Nikolai wrote:Send him to the sin binMulger bill wrote:You mentioned it once but you think you got away with it...zero wrote:...and absolutely no-one is to mention 29ers.
Postby usernameforme » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:16 pm
Postby KenGS » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:46 pm
Is Campy lighter than Shimano or more aero? Or is Eurocool also a factor?usernameforme wrote:after reading this thread... I think this is the new Campy VS Shimano
Postby skull » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:49 pm
what about campy 29er wheels? How aero are they?KenGS wrote:Is Campy lighter than Shimano or more aero? Or is Eurocool also a factor?usernameforme wrote:after reading this thread... I think this is the new Campy VS Shimano
Postby winstonw » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:07 pm
Alex, if a wheel manufacturer omitted variable wind yaw and velocity, like your charts, they'd only make solid aero disks of "however many kgs Alex decrees".Alex Simmons/RST wrote:that's false, but anyhooo...winstonw wrote:...but as Alex has invested significant time in,
but complying with the rules is notwinstonw wrote:weight is overrated.
Postby twizzle » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:24 pm
Postby winstonw » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:45 pm
put me back on ignore Twizzle....then go get your sciatica sorted by aero-coach.twizzle wrote:The Horse Is Dead.
Cease the pointless flogging.
Postby warthog1 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:51 pm
We need another adjectivetwizzle wrote:The Horse Is Dead.
Cease the pointless flogging.
Sent from my iThingy...
Postby mrgolf » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:19 pm
I think this could be the new direction of the thread.Mulger bill wrote: But if he mentions the war in front of some German tourists...
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:29 pm
mrgolf wrote:I think this could be the new direction of the thread.Mulger bill wrote: But if he mentions the war in front of some German tourists...
I believe the Germans arent concerned with putting their hands up for their part in WWII. Certainly from my perspective as a visitor, they weren't pretending it didnt happen in a bizarre attempt to shirk moral responsibility. They probably wouldnt instigate a lengthy discussion about it though.
In other news, Malcolm Turnbull could be Australias only hope....
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