trouble cornering/turning
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trouble cornering/turning
Postby ftssjk » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:15 pm
ive done probably 250kms all up.
Im finding it quite hard to corner/turn.
I always worry at which point my pedal/shoe will hit the tyre,
as well as falling over with my clipless pedals in.
any suggestions?
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby sogood » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 pm
RK wrote:And that is Wikipedia - I can write my own definition.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby human909 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 pm
Only on very short frames doesn't this normally occur and only a low speeds as at higher speeds the front wheel barely turns. If this is a problem the don't pedal during small radius turns.ftssjk wrote:I always worry at which point my pedal/shoe will hit the tyre
The bigger worry on higher speed cornering is the pedal hitting the ground which is why on tight high speed corners you can't pedal and need to raise the inside pedal.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby il padrone » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:27 pm
For general riding at any sort of speed you should take the approach of 'outside pedal down and all your weight on it'. This will prevent the risk of pedal-strike on the inside pedal, and give you a much better weight-placement and control for cornering. With your outside leg straight your thigh lies against your saddle and helps to stabilize and lean the bike to give a controlled turn. All your weight on the outside pedal presses the saddle against your thigh, and helps to push your tyres down into the road rather than sideways along it.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby nescius » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:30 pm
Get used to clipping in and out, go somewhere like a quiet carpark and spend an hour or so starting and stopping. This is particularly useful if you are going to be commuting, there are not many more embarrassing things that not being able to get your shoe clipped in when you set off from the lights! If you are finding it difficult to unclip you may need to adjust the tension on the pedals, usually it just needs an allen key and on Shimano pedals there should be +/- arrows (+ for tighter, - to loosen).ftssjk wrote:I always worry at which point my pedal/shoe will hit the tyre,
as well as falling over with my clipless pedals in.
any suggestions?
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby il padrone » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:39 pm
Bungling the take-off clip-in is nothing to be too embarrassed about. Lots of beginners (and some experienced riders) struggle with this. But it's the stopping and track-standing that can be really embarrassing - called a clip-stacknescius wrote: This is particularly useful if you are going to be commuting, there are not many more embarrassing things that not being able to get your shoe clipped in when you set off from the lights!
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:09 pm
+1 to this, it also helps to teach yourself to "ratchet" if you think you won't have enough momentum. Pedal in half turns and backpedal to reset the driving foot.human909 wrote:Only on very short frames doesn't this normally occur and only a low speeds as at higher speeds the front wheel barely turns. If this is a problem the don't pedal during small radius turns.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby ftssjk » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:13 am
i mostly have trouble turning when going slow.
here's a photo of the place where ive had the most difficulty.
its the bridge on the cooks river.
ive seen cyclists just ride around the corners so i thought id give it a try.
i did okay but was a bit tricky.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby Dan » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:15 am
Momentum helps, too. If you can see the exit to your turn, try pedalling through the apex of the corner (once you're more proficient) - I find that helps to pull me through the turn, much like accelerating through a corner in a car.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby AndrewBurns » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:27 am
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby bychosis » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:09 am
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby geoffs » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:36 am
I can just make it around the hairpin on the tandem without panniers. With panniers i have to walk it around the bend.
Another pointer that may help. Only use your front brake when you are riding in a straight line and use it to slow up sufficiently to make it around the corner. Do not use your front brake once you have started to turn. You may use your rear brake in a corner but be careful how hard you apply it as to much will cause a skid.
Remember front brake in a corner causes understeer (which means you will tend to go straight ahead) and the rear brake causes oversteer ( will cause rear of bike to swing wide and tightens path around corner).
Practice makes perfect so ride over the bridge 10 times in a row for a few sessions.
It's easy to ride quick - there's a lot of skill in keeping control when riding slow which takes practice.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby Mulger bill » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:39 am
If you do have overlap, ratchet.bychosis wrote:I you a worried about toe overlap, test it out. Gear up, saddle up, grab a pole. Then move feet and bars to see if the is an issue. The beauty of clip less pedals is that your feet won't move from that position. If they don't hit during your testing they won't hit while riding, or they will only hit in the one position.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby Summernight » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:29 am
If you want to do the tight, slow corner without clipping out, fine, but nothing wrong with unclipping one until you have the complete confidence with the clip-in pedals to do this extra tight turn without problems.
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby RonK » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:12 am
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Re: trouble cornering/turning
Postby trailgumby » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:21 am
Try it, it works really well, and completely avoids the toe overlap issue.
As an added brain bender, when switching from right to left and vice versa around the witches hat slow-speed slalom course, we had to do the half-turn of the cranks in *reverse*
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