2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby AUbicycles » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:27 pm
Although I don't agree that Jenny / Ausbike / Gumtree Seller or whatever represented themself at all and this was very disappointing considering I asked so many times, it has wasted too much time and I can't justify spending the time. Now I do hope that even without images that other potential buyers are careful in purchasing and while I have no interest in contact with the seller - the type of gumtree advert as originally posted is, for us more experienced cyclists, misleading and probably violates the T&Cs of Gumtree so it worth reporting using the report option.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby lucky7 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:41 pm
You're not quite right. It was not a personal attack. Personal attacks are not allowed on this site and would be inappropriate. Like polishing a turd and selling it as a top quality bike (if you get my drift). My comments are, however, the truth. I will of course be relying on that to defend the libel suit you're no doubt about to threaten me with. Now go away and please do not come back and share your view another day.ausbike wrote:"I think the degreaser fumes have finally done too much damage. Perhaps it's time to take your grammatically awkward indignation somewhere else? I now want to see your scam sales fail...I really do." -lucky7
this has more to do with personal attack than discussing the topic, my view is what I share, not anything else, sorry, I just couldn't bother to support your personal attack, the sellers targeted by TTar can join this discussion too, I don't supposed you would attack them personally as I don't believe the forum would accommodate attitude like this.
I believe the admin has a point or two. I have to go but can come to share my view another day, I like to see the input of the targeted sellers if possible.
ETA: removed the reference to a personal attack, because clearly they are not allowed on this site. I agree with that rule, which is why I would never admit to launching a personal attack on anyone. No matter how corrupt and beyond redemption they may be.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby Mulger bill » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:42 pm
As far as I personally am concerned, the seller is a parasite stealing the hard earned from decent people who believe the dross that poses as advertising copy.
THIS to the power of infinity.Summernight wrote:Also K-Mart or the bike brand themselves may be interested to know about their items being sold without key features like... Oh, the correct bike branding/origin being displayed.
I'm still waiting for Jenny to reveal her bona fides...
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby rudeboy » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:35 pm
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby Summernight » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:54 am
Is there anything against whatever supposed rules we're meant to be following that means that a link to this ad cannot be posted here (so we may all add our clicks to the 'report user' button or whatever it is called on Gumtree)?rudeboy wrote:seems like "Jenny" now feels confident to try again as "ads" have returned to gumtree posted today
I'm now willing to add my click to reporting this user on Gumtree (previously I didn't care enough but I ran out of popcorn in the middle of reading Jenny's post... ).
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:03 am
Yes it is fine to post a link here. It is however recommended not to link to images unless you have nothing better to do that deal with the mess that comes with it (I know they don't deserve my time).
If you see an ad on gumtree that potentially violates the terms and conditions of that service and is misleading or fraudulent then it is your choice if you wish to report it using their service. Same with any service including ebay or other classified - the administrators are not checking each ad and so probably appreciate reports and can then take action they deem necessary.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby Summernight » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:10 am
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby The 2nd Womble » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:52 am
DO NOT ENGAGE THIS SELLER. They are seeking IP addresses with buyer replies. Seller asked me for a second confirmation email with additional personal details.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby lucky7 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:53 am
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby Summernight » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:25 pm
Sounds like personal detail information gathering. Scammers?The 2nd Womble wrote:I replied to this ad this morning.
DO NOT ENGAGE THIS SELLER. They are seeking IP addresses with buyer replies. Seller asked me for a second confirmation email with additional personal details.
I've found two at the moment:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-c ... 1023423090" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sydney-r ... 1023699458" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I've reported the ads as 'scams' - I'm not engaging the seller - no point. I don't use Gumtree, but the site doesn't seem to have seller reputation or whatever like eBay? What's the deal with that?
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby oxonabike » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:27 pm
This copy writing style and lens flare photography have a familiarity about it.lucky7 wrote:Can someone post the link?
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby jasonc » Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:57 pm
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby Summernight » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:08 pm
Oxonabike's was the same as one of mine above so there were only two.jasonc wrote:all 3 above gone already....
Start investigating Gumtree for their newest iteration of the advertisement, people! I would suggest looking for any photos with lens flare, pretty backdrops and something about the owner having just had the bike a couple of months but that it is the best thing since sliced bread...
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby RonK » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:14 pm
Why not? Gumtree was acquired by eBay in 2005.Summernight wrote:I don't use Gumtree, but the site doesn't seem to have seller reputation or whatever like eBay? What's the deal with that?
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby im_no_pro » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:18 pm
At a guess because there is no direct transactional event between buyer seller on the site, unlike eBay, so any system would have to either include such a circumstance or be entirely unreliable anyway. If they do that, then buyer protections like eBay has come into it. No different to any other classifieds website like trading post, carsales etc etc etc. precisely why I would never buy anything from Gumtree I couldnt see in front of me before making payment.RonK wrote:Why not? Gumtree was acquired by eBay in 2005.Summernight wrote:I don't use Gumtree, but the site doesn't seem to have seller reputation or whatever like eBay? What's the deal with that?
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby AUbicycles » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:13 pm
Only the chosen few will ever truely know the answer, I guess you missed the cutcasual_cyclist wrote:I just read the whole thread from start to end and have one question... what just happened?
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby TTar » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:55 pm
AUbicycles wrote:Only the chosen few will ever truely know the answer, I guess you missed the cutcasual_cyclist wrote:I just read the whole thread from start to end and have one question... what just happened?
The truth is, no one will ever know "what just happened", no one.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby ldrcycles » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:14 pm
Except "jenny" .TTar wrote:AUbicycles wrote:Only the chosen few will ever truely know the answer, I guess you missed the cutcasual_cyclist wrote:I just read the whole thread from start to end and have one question... what just happened?
The truth is, no one will ever know "what just happened", no one.
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
Postby ausbike » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:39 am
So here it is, we start to undestand a bit more of our forum celebrity (and the costs to others).
Congratulations TTar, the negative bit, you've been there and done that, how about something new for a change, back to what you are promoting, what actually happened there, why it failed so badly?
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Re: 2nd hand K-mart bike for 133% more than new
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