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[Carrots]

No sleeper option

Voting done!

Edit: Option B for me.

[AUbicycles]

Swiss Side have now revealed 6 graphic design concepts and you can vote. I suggest voting the but also sharing your preference here - it will be interested to see if the consensus here is the same or different than the main results:





My vote goes to D

[warren.suen]

D as well it looks the best

[scotto]

d

[scotto]

i was going to ask how they compare to say zipps / 808s but eventually found something about being more aero. Is this throughout all yaw angles ?

[Dirty32]

Voted yesterday... Pretty sure I went with F.
IMO, sometimes less is more!

[Boognoss]

I'm a C. You guys are all weird

Did anyone else read the upside-down "Hadron" as "Hardon". Maybe my mind is too far down in the gutter.......

[AUbicycles]

Reminder to me. Don't take Boognoss to the Hadrin Collider as he may get excited when the particles accelerate.

[warthog1]

I went with E. If I had input I'd go more understated, smaller lettering and less graphics than any of the options displayed.

[cerb]

I went with B as the best, F coming a close second and D third. The ones which don't have a symmetrical appearance don't do it for me!

[cerb]

Boognoss - I actually put a note in the feedback about the letter swap my brain (also) does... Perhaps it's very well designed attention grabber!?

[Boognoss]

Boognoss - I actually put a note in the feedback about the letter swap my brain (also) does... Perhaps it's very well designed attention grabber!?

Nice, glad to know I'm not the only crazy one

[andylo]

I am a B. Don't mind the C then the A. Then anything else.

[AUbicycles]

I had a closer look at D when putting my vote in and it is still a favourite because of the placement of the red logos however the repetition of SwissSide is too much. Once is enough.

[NhiTrac]

B for me

[Swiss_Side_Wheels]

i was going to ask how they compare to say zipps / 808s but eventually found something about being more aero. Is this throughout all yaw angles ?

Yes, the Zipp 808 was our benchmark wheel in the windtunnel. The Hadron matches it's drag throughout the yaw range within 1-2% but delays the stall point later, offering lower drag at those higher yaw (crosswind) angles. But the big effect is the 25% reduction in sideforce. This is worth significant performance and was specific performance wish from our pro as well as amateur Swiss Side riders. The higher the yaw angle the bigger the effect.

[Gunlock]

D for me as well.

[Carrots]

Yes, the Zipp 808 was our benchmark wheel in the windtunnel. The Hadron matches it's drag throughout the yaw range within 1-2% but delays the stall point later, offering lower drag at those higher yaw (crosswind) angles. But the big effect is the 25% reduction in sideforce. This is worth significant performance and was specific performance wish from our pro as well as amateur Swiss Side riders. The higher the yaw angle the bigger the effect.

In lay terms... 25% less sideforce, does that mean less drag/wind effect from side winds?

[warthog1]

In lay terms... 25% less sideforce, does that mean less drag/wind effect from side winds?

I reckon that means the wheels will be less affected by cross winds. I you ride deep carbon wheels in blustery conditions they can make it hard to hold the bike straight. I have some 85mm token tubulars that get blown around a fair bit in cross winds.
The swisside hadrons should be 25% better than 808's is my reading. Less affect on the steering.


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[wizardhat]

D is the best I reckon!

[Swiss_Side_Wheels]

Yes, the Zipp 808 was our benchmark wheel in the windtunnel. The Hadron matches it's drag throughout the yaw range within 1-2% but delays the stall point later, offering lower drag at those higher yaw (crosswind) angles. But the big effect is the 25% reduction in sideforce. This is worth significant performance and was specific performance wish from our pro as well as amateur Swiss Side riders. The higher the yaw angle the bigger the effect.

In lay terms... 25% less sideforce, does that mean less drag/wind effect from side winds?

Hey there. Yes, the 25% less sideforce means you won't get blown around as much on blustery days which is important when considering overall drag. The rider actually represents about 80% of the total drag. If you are getting blown around and constantly having to get out of your tucked aero position to correct and adjust, the drag consequences are huge! Our pro riders strongly pointed out the importance of reducing the effects of being blown about because it allows them to keep tucked and on the power. So we pushed to optimise for reduced sideforce and steering effects. (See the specific comments in the 'Optimisation Results' section of the Hadron CFD report: http://www.swissside.com/735" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

In the end, in terms of real life drag performance, on a day where some wind is present, we are confident the Hadron will outperform any aero wheel on the market!

[Carrots]

Hey there. Yes, the 25% less sideforce means you won't get blown around as much on blustery days which is important when considering overall drag. The rider actually represents about 80% of the total drag. If you are getting blown around and constantly having to get out of your tucked aero position to correct and adjust, the drag consequences are huge! Our pro riders strongly pointed out the importance of reducing the effects of being blown about because it allows them to keep tucked and on the power. So we pushed to optimise for reduced sideforce and steering effects. (See the specific comments in the 'Optimisation Results' section of the Hadron CFD report: http://www.swissside.com/735" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

In the end, in terms of real life drag performance, on a day where some wind is present, we are confident the Hadron will outperform any aero wheel on the market!

That's what I thought - I'm over this aeronautical engineering thing like a kid in a lolly shop!

Pretty darn impressive really!


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[paule11]

C as well very hard to chose

[paule11]

Voted c very hard to pick a favourite

[Summernight]

Love C. The rest are fine.