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Re: Dutch roundabout live
Postby Red Rider » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:06 pm
I swear that's the same van I've seen 4 times now...
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Re: Dutch roundabout live
Postby il padrone » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:17 pm
Just bumping the video-feed along for those looking at a new pageil padrone wrote:Fascinating to watch this live feed of a Dutch roundabout in action, any time of the day or night you choose
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Re: Dutch roundabout live
Postby il padrone » Sun Jun 07, 2015 12:02 am
Their road safety in general is due to a whole complementary complex of measures. The Dutch just tend to take these all much further than we do, and there is no implicit assumption that cars must always be catered for at the best speeds or to the maximim level of accessibility.
What the Dutch have done is to reduce the frequency of conflict between road users and to to reduce the lethality of those crashes which still inevitably occur. This has involved changes in infrastructure to keep vulnerable road users away from the lethal force of motor vehicles, design of junctions so that routes do not cross each other at speed, as well as some changes in the law and education of road users about how to behave in a safe way ....
.....Of course it's all OK to have the world's safest roads, but to influence people to ride bikes you also need Subjective Safety to make cycling feel safe enough that people want to do it, and want their children to do it too. This has been addressed by a number of means, leading to the world's highest rate of cycling, and happily the same things which increase real safety and work for sustainable safety also work to increase subjective safety. The result is the highest rate of cycling in the world, with very high participation by the broadest possible population of cyclists, and what this means sometimes takes people by surprise.
* My observations in Italy were that this is the case there as well - there were plenty of 'autoscuola' (auto-schools) advertised in towns, and we never saw any L-plate drivers that were not in autoscuola cars.However, from seeing what friends of my daughter are doing, it seems more difficult and quite a lot more expensive to get a driving license here than in the UK. For a start, all driving lessons have to be with a qualified driving instructor*, while in the UK you can have a friend or family member instruct you. I think there are also more stringent conditions as you remark about Denmark, but perhaps someone who has been through the process here can tell us more.
I also seems that the tests (theory and practical) are more difficult. People fail them more readily here than in the UK. Mind you, it's also more difficult in the UK than it was 20 years ago.
As I remarked before, the UK is actually doing quite a good job in overall road safety. Drivers are quite safe. It's just when you look at the safety of vulnerable road users that Britain's record looks bad.
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Re: Dutch roundabout live
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Re: Dutch roundabout live
Postby il padrone » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:26 pm
"An unjustified and unethical imposition on a healthy activity."
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Re: Dutch roundabout live
Postby Archie CRM » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:15 pm
PS the stream was a great hit, around 2 million people have watched the roundabout.
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