Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
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Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby bychosis » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:31 am
As described elsewhere on the web and in the other thread this is no ordinary Big w BSO, it is a fat bike, and with that comes a significant amount of steel and a little alloy weighing in at 23.1 on my bathroom scales this morning. The tyres are huge and no doubt the tubes are too adding up to all the extra weight over what would probably be a 14kg bike other than for the wheels. It's rigid, single speed and has not much extra on it.
I have taken it for a spin short around sunrise this morning and it's going to have to go back in the workshop and then be put on a diet. You can really feel the weight in spinning up the wheels, but once there it isn't that hard to cruise along the flat. Up hill is a different story, funnily enough it feels heavy, very heavy. The steering is a bit wired too, seems to be nice and stable going straight on, but once the bars turn there is a strange sensation probably to do with the rotational inertia and changing the direction of the spinning 4kg (estimate) wheel, or it could be the geometry that appears to be a little bit too steep. Either way, something to get used to. Maybe some fattie riders might comment on the steering of a decent fat bike setup. The position is very upright and it could probably do with a longer stem, but I'm on the taller end of humans and have a long torso too. As its one size fits most, it obviously won't fit everyone, and although a more cruisy position it wasn't bad.
The chain promptly fell off after rolling out of the drive down the road and then beginning to pedal up the next rise. The front brakes rubbed for the whole ride and the left crank developed a bit of a clunk on the way home so I pushed it up the hills rather than damage something. Was ok on the flatter sections without too much power applied. Tool time next. Also need to shorten the silly-long brake cable and remove excess items like a kickstand and maybe the chain guard.
I also let down the tyre a lot. The previous owner had them quite hard, as I know heaps about fat bikes I figured the tyres shouldn't be hard so I dropped the pressure to around 15, bit hard to tell as my pump guage isn't accurate that low. The tyres still are quite firm even at 15psi using the old squeeze test. Seems the tyres are fairly stiff, next step will be completely deflating them and testing!
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby bychosis » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:47 am
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby thecaptn » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:57 am
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby bychosis » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:36 am
Kickstand is off, minus 305g = 22.8kg
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby trailgumby » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:38 pm
How are you supposed to ratchet the pedals over obstacles with a coaster brake?
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby HappyHumber » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:44 pm
You're missing the point. You crush them instead with your sheer weight. BigDump is trying to appeal to the MMA/MonsterTruck loving set where brute force is (and short attention spans are) king.trailgumby wrote:How are you supposed to ratchet the pedals over obstacles with a coaster brake?
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby Kalgrm » Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:14 pm
The steering behaviour is normal to some extent. It's caused by the super wide tyre and the large contact patch. As you turn and lean, the tyre on the inside of the turn has a smaller diameter than the middle of the tyre and the grip tries to pull the steering further into the turn. It's called "self-steering". Some tyres are more prone to it than others, and it gets worse as the tyre pressure decreases. It's not really noticeable on the dirt though.
15psi is still very high for a fat bike. I run mine at 7.5 (r) and 6.5 (f) on packed gravel and tarmac, and 5 (r) and 4 (f) on sand. My tyres are 4.8" wide though. (Buy a cheap digital pressure gauge from Repco or Super Cheap Auto.)
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby Mulger bill » Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:16 pm
The F450 of the bike world. Does it come with complimentary truck nutz?HappyHumber wrote:You're missing the point. You crush them instead with your sheer weight. BigDump is trying to appeal to the MMA/MonsterTruck loving set where brute force is (and short attention spans are) king.trailgumby wrote:How are you supposed to ratchet the pedals over obstacles with a coaster brake?
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby thecaptn » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:39 pm
I think if you're capable of putting serious kms on it you'd be able to just hang your own nutz out the back.Mulger bill wrote: The F450 of the bike world. Does it come with complimentary truck nutz?
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby silentbutdeadly » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:49 pm
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby bychosis » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:55 pm
I've dropped some more air out of the tyres and they now feel squishy. No idea what the pressure is, but so far so good around the back yard and driveway. The front disc brake has been adjusted to not rub, but in doing so I've backed off th cable to much and it is now a device to slow the bike, not stop it!
My bro-in-law visited this arvo and has a little ride, said he would probably buy a real one (no offence taken). My reply indicated that you can't go and buy a real one for a laugh, and shouldn't he be putting money towards a house at the moment anyway! This toy won't cost me much (if I can help it), not much spent on parts, resale value should be similar, unless fat bikes are just a passing fad.
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Postby trailgumby » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:08 pm
Like this? For riding at night, of course.thecaptn wrote:I think if you're capable of putting serious kms on it you'd be able to just hang your own nutz out the back.Mulger bill wrote: The F450 of the bike world. Does it come with complimentary truck nutz?
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Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby RonK » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:16 pm
Oh yeah? Could be a very slippery slope you're on.bychosis wrote:This toy won't cost me much (if I can help it)...
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby koshari » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:19 pm
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby silentbutdeadly » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:21 pm
Are you talking about the bike or the bike nutz?koshari wrote:is that a plastic covered steel crank?
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby koshari » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:25 pm
the earlier, i had a feeling it may have been a good idea to quote the earlier pics coming in after that post.silentbutdeadly wrote:Are you talking about the bike or the bike nutz?koshari wrote:is that a plastic covered steel crank?
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby cray- » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:27 pm
Mostly I'm commenting so that this thread will come up in "view your posts" so I can keep an eye on it. =D
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby bychosis » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:21 pm
Wondered what happened to that sentence.silentbutdeadly wrote:...thread and give the tube a big blast of lungs. Fit the cap. That's probably the right air pressure...
I rode the fatty to work on Friday. Normally takes 15-16minutes on a road bike. Took me 21 minutes and my legs were toasted. Needs some gears to be anything other than a cruise bike. To tall for hills, to low for the flats. After riding it back home of Friday arvo it wont be going commuting again anytime soon.
Gets plenty of comments though. Not many have seen a fat bike before.
I think after some time I'll get the hole saw out for the rims, then take the tubes out and run tubeless to shed some serious weight. Might try to find some old alloy bars and a seatpost to help too.
Still, its a bit of fun. I'd better try it out on the beach before I sell it too!
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
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Re: Tales of the Big W fatty. The Hyper Mammoth.
Postby bychosis » Tue Feb 02, 2016 7:56 pm
There's the challenge! Let's see, $299 RRP IIRC, plus 50% = $450. I'd say chances are slim, but it would mean $299 profit if I don't spend anything on it.ldrcycles wrote:And see if you can get 50% more than new price like when i sold my Repco Preset .
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