Victorian Gravel Routes

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Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby mogwaiboi » Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:45 pm

Hi All

Just wondering if anyone had some Vic gravel routes they wanted to share (Strava links)? I got a CX a few months back and looking for some 50km+ routes to explore. I've been up the Mount Everard track in Kinglake, Bunyip State Park, Warby Trail, Lysterfield and parts of the Dandenongs, but looking for other options. Thanks :D
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Smithstreet » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:17 pm

mogwaiboi wrote:Hi All

Just wondering if anyone had some Vic gravel routes they wanted to share (Strava links)? I got a CX a few months back and looking for some 50km+ routes to explore. I've been up the Mount Everard track in Kinglake, Bunyip State Park, Warby Trail, Lysterfield and parts of the Dandenongs, but looking for other options. Thanks :D


I don't have any actual files/links but anything out around Grand Ridge Road (Strzlecki Ranges), heaps around Warburton, Marysville, and if you want to get a bit more adventurous, try something like Mt Skene from Licola. Not sure what level of competency you're at but we come down from Queensland on a regular basis for these superb gravel rides.

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby koshari » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:58 pm

You could push out a bit more from bunyip state park to the area between crossover/sweetwater reserve. I find it better ground than the clay tracks of bunyip state park which get awfully slippery when wet . You could also park up at rokeby and take the rail trail to and from crossover. From crossover there are heaps of loops pushing into the state forrest.
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby BenGr » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:33 pm

The Ol'Dirty routes are good (didn't do the last one but apparently it may have been passed the fun side of tough).

Here's a ride I did combining the 2014 and 2015 versions https://www.strava.com/activities/539756354/overview

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby madmacca » Mon Feb 20, 2017 10:10 pm

Try some of Gareth's routes at http://www.melbournerandonneur.org/

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Hildalgo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:22 am

There are tonnes of areas with great gravel trails. You can easily spend years exploring in & around the fringes of Melbourne:

The Brisbane Ranges
The Dandenong Ranges has 100's of k's of great gravel roads
The Yarra Valley
Cardinia
Grand Ridge Road ( http://www.thedandenongranges.com/gipps ... idge-road/ )
Walhalla (if you like climbing & tonnes of other areas around Gippsland)
There's the rail trails which are generally flat, but offer some great riding.

Happy to put together some Strava routes for you if you want? I'm a huge fan of riding dirt, although don't have a CX. Just use an old road bike and 23mm tires. Email me on brendanedwards@lavelocita.cc

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby koshari » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:38 am

Hildalgo wrote: I'm a huge fan of riding dirt, although don't have a CX. Just use an old road bike and 23mm tires. Email me on brendanedwards@lavelocita.cc

wow 23s! how do you find they go in the soft stuff? i find narrower tyres tend to plough in like a pizza cutter and don't tent to absorb much of the impact riding on railway ballast type bluemetal that is present near logging coupes.
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Hildalgo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:23 am

Hi Koshari, I've probably done over 10,000 km of gravel grinding and only punctured twice. But was foolishly riding South Face Road on Mount Baw Baw where large sections of road were covered in sharp stones.

Can't really give advice. Its more experience. The more you ride different types of terrain, the more you learn to balance, and dance in and around objects. You need to know how and when to change your seating position to absorb the shock, and learn to ride taking your weight off the bike.

Guess its a matter of relaxing yourself as much as possible. The more tense you ride, the more likely you're going to get a mechanical or puncture.

With hills, riding dodgy or steep gravel climbs on 23 mm I find will help your climbing improve. Its not a matter of pushing up them as hard as you can. You just get wheel spin, and exhaust yourself. You've got to find that right speed, and find that sweet spot. Guess the more you do the easier you will find it.

I tend to find a balance of gravel/paved roads, and if you can pick a route that avoids descending down gravel.

I wrote this article on Gravel grinding a few years back if it helps in any way?

http://www.thedandenongranges.com/artic ... -grinding/

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby koshari » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:57 pm

cheers brendon, i must admit i have already read a lot of the stuff on your site , i find it very nice reading and i definitely don't question your experience,and no doubt a good technique helps. i was just a little surprised you favor 23s. for now at least iam happy to stick to the comfort of my trusty 35s. even on my roadeys that don't tend to leave the bitumen (unintentianally at least) i have pretty much standardised on 25mms as i have far fewer pinch flats on them.

anyway with regards to your blog, keep up the good work.
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Calvin27 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:50 pm

http://melbournegravelgrinders.blogspot.com.au/

The events are far and few, but lots og gpx files and if you search on strava, you will find a lot more.
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Hildalgo » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:54 pm

Thanks Koshari. Good to know that someone reads the blog :)

With the 23mm, honestly too lazy to change tires just for a ride, & haven't had a spare set of wheels to put CX wheels on until recently. Guess had always ridden on 23 mm & just got used to it. Guess all depends on the shape of the roads, but most of the roads in and around Melbourne are in pretty good shape nowadays to ride on any set of tires. The only thing don't enjoy on 23 mm is riding on mud. Good for awhile, but you really feel it after awhile. Always put it down to good resistance training :)

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby mogwaiboi » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:21 pm

Awesome, thanks a lot for all the replies everyone. Some really useful info. I'll definitely hit you up Brendan, I've seen your name when I've been researching gravel grinding :-) I've got a 46/36 11-32 on the CX and I'm thinking of putting an XT derailleur on so I can go 11-36 or 11-40. Love the gravel riding, it's a whole new ball game after riding on the road for 10 years or so.
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby koshari » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:00 pm

That feel of a rear slide is something i dont get to feel on the sealed stuff.
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby cyclotaur » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:13 pm

If you have a few spare days there's always Woods Point....
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Smithstreet » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:31 pm

If you want to put yourself 'in the bin', try this little sucker.
One of Gareth's finest, besides his Super Randonee, but that's another story!!

https://www.strava.com/activities/792856949

230km of the 400 is gravel, with the Mt Skene HC 'epic' being a 4-5 hour climb 3/4ths of the way in.

There is a 300 option. :D

Might go back this year....maybe.

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby mogwaiboi » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:57 am

Smithstreet wrote:If you want to put yourself 'in the bin', try this little sucker.
One of Gareth's finest, besides his Super Randonee, but that's another story!!

https://www.strava.com/activities/792856949

230km of the 400 is gravel, with the Mt Skene HC 'epic' being a 4-5 hour climb 3/4ths of the way in.

There is a 300 option. :D

Might go back this year....maybe.


Hmmm maybe not, but thanks anyway :shock:
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby mogwaiboi » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:52 am

Stumbled across this today http://graveleur.cc/gravel-finder/
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby hamishm » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:09 pm

Any good gravel riding around Lorne? I've got a couple of hours Saturday morning.

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Hildalgo » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:28 pm

hamishm wrote:Any good gravel riding around Lorne? I've got a couple of hours Saturday morning.

Hi Hamishm, Lorne is ridiculously steep. I have ridden most of the back streets around there, and virtually every backstreet peaks at 20%. Any dirt roads around the town would just be crazy.

There's a loop you can do north of Lorne that has a bit of dirt. If you head up Erskine Falls Road (there's a 9km climb up to the Falls). Then turn onto Benwerrin-Mt Sabine Road which is gravel (never been on this road personally). Take this road out to Deans Marsh Road (this is paved) and turn right, which will take you back to Lorne, with a fun descent to get you back.

You could probably fit this in a 2 hour loop (don't quote me). But if you do this would recommend to descend down to Erskine Falls. There's a great lookout that you can easily walk to. Just be mindful that the climb out of the carpark is something. 1 km (AT) almost 11%.

http://www.thedandenongranges.com/lorne ... ng-review/

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Postby nezumi » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:17 pm

cyclotaur wrote:If you have a few spare days there's always Woods Point....


A few days, or you could do this: http://therewillbedirt.blogspot.com.au/ ... .html#more

(http://therewillbedirt.blogspot.com.au/ is another great source for gravel riding routes)
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby cyclotaur » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:37 pm

nezumi wrote:
cyclotaur wrote:If you have a few spare days there's always Woods Point....

A few days, or you could do this: http://therewillbedirt.blogspot.com.au/ ... .html#more

(http://therewillbedirt.blogspot.com.au/ is another great source for gravel riding routes)

Yes...yes...I guess you could.

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby mogwaiboi » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:07 pm

nezumi wrote:
cyclotaur wrote:If you have a few spare days there's always Woods Point....


A few days, or you could do this: http://therewillbedirt.blogspot.com.au/ ... .html#more

(http://therewillbedirt.blogspot.com.au/ is another great source for gravel riding routes)


Ah nice, I've been at that Woods Point intersection many times after climbing Reefton Spur, then continuing onto Lake Mountain. I'll have to take the CX out there and check it out. Think I'll start from Warburton though :D
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Postby hamishm » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:14 pm

Hildalgo wrote:Hi Hamishm, Lorne is ridiculously steep. I have ridden most of the back streets around there, and virtually every backstreet peaks at 20%. Any dirt roads around the town would just be crazy.

:shock: Thanks for the comments. I decided to leave the bike at home and sleep in instead! Maybe another time...

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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Calvin27 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:25 pm

Hi folks, grave dig here.

Anyone done the kinglake climb from hurstbridge on gravel/ B-roads?

Keen to give the kinglake climb a shot again but the last few times I did it, felt like I was gonna die from the traffic.
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Re: Victorian Gravel Routes

Postby Toyopet » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:30 pm

Head out from Hurstbridge to Strathewen, where you’ll find a range of options. You can even avoid much of the (quiet) main road to Strathewen and take the gravel road off to the left; Eagles Nest Rd. This road is not too rough or steep. Once you get to Strathewen, you can choose 1 - Bowden Spur, 2 - Beale Ave, 3 - Bald Spur, or 4 - Chads Creek/Pine Ridge.

Bowden Spur is quite climbable on a road bike. Beale Ave and Bald Spur are steeper and rougher. A CX with good gearing or a MTB is recommended. Chads Ck/Pine Ridge is beyond MTB capability, and you’ll be walking much of the way up. These two tracks take you closer to Mt Sugarloaf and Pheasant Ck rather than Kinglake.

If you take the main road up to Kinglake from Hurstbridge, there’s an option to go off-road onto Cookson Hill Track. This is the track towards the left from Mountain Rush Junction. It’s steeper and rockier than the main road, with quite a bit of single track at the start, which widens out once you get into it. CX and MTB are fine on this track.

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