I think the Dura Ace looks just as ugly. That thick crank arm is just yuck.2wheels_mond wrote:It's almost as if they've deliberately hit it with the ugly stick to try and make people want Dura Ace instead. The slanted logo looks... tacky, in a way.
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Postby Blakeylonger » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:54 pm
Wait for the 105 5950 / RS690 non series gravel group to be released in 2018. Road 11sp shifters, clutched rear mech, subcompact cranks.singlespeedscott wrote:I don't know why Shimano didn't think of super low compacts when they redesigned their cranks?
If you look at Metrea FC-U5000 cranks you can see a precursor to a road subcompact crankset, just needs hollow arms and slightly lower Q.
You could also refit the Metrea inner ring and drop the chainguard right now (46/32 4 bolt 96BCD so use an MTB eg 30T Y1RL98110.) if you can't find a set of OX601s/FSA Adventure cranks
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Postby CycloTron » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:44 am
Personally, I find that design (as well as the similar Dura-Ace R9100) very unattractive... a few have already mentioned yuck, and I agree with that sentiment completely.Jawa wrote:Very Dura-Ace-esq which was to be expected I guess ...
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Postby Jawa » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:10 am
Yeah, the new 2018 (assuming) Teammachines are up on BMC's website now ... seems they spared no expense in hiding the new ultegra groupsets /sarcasmVelt wrote:Spec sheet for the new BMC Teammachine outs an 11-30T casette coming just like Dura Ace
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Postby Duck! » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:35 pm
That's one I didn't know was coming! Then when the rest of the next-gen 105 comes out this time next year, the FD will get new cosmetics & renumbering to align it with the new set, but will otherwise be the same unit. Wouldn't be the first time they've done that...2wheels_mond wrote:One sneaky bit was they also released a 105 FD-5801, which is the 105 front derailleur updated to the new short arm design of R9100 and R8000. Not bad at all.
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Postby Duck! » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:44 pm
And even better that they don't share the looks of the RS505/405 abominations!Velt wrote:Good to see the Di2 hydro levers aren't so vertical
Like R9100 Dura-Ace, the full mechanical and both Di2 (mech & hydro brake) shifters are virtually identical in size. The mechanical shift/hydro brake levers are a tad bigger, stylistically similar but slightly slimmed down from the RS685 levers of the last couple of years.
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Postby baabaa » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:39 pm
(with the wobbles in the GBP, just bought a set of silver CX50 and 5750 cranks before they vanish…)
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Postby hamishm » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:52 am
please explain?baabaa wrote:Shimano could have saved a bucket load of money and just come out and said; we don’t want people buying metal bikes anymore.
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Postby Velt » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:02 pm
Based on the rest of his comment I'd say it was about not having a polished silver aesthetic. That is, the new groupsets only look good on carbon bikes.hamishm wrote:please explain?baabaa wrote:Shimano could have saved a bucket load of money and just come out and said; we don’t want people buying metal bikes anymore.
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Postby baabaa » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:38 pm
Do we as bike riders need to be reminded / conned that this type of part or that sort of frame design with new extra solid bottom brackets really avoids the 0.00075% of flex of last years model? Anyone less than 80 kgs will never know the difference.
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Postby hamishm » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:06 pm
Would you prefer Campag's visible carbon weave? I think that looks the worst.
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Postby baabaa » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:09 am
I spose what gets my goat with post 6700 stuff is the move away from 110 and 130 BCD chainrings so that you really need to buy new shimano branded stuff when it wears out. I know other companies do make rings to fit and sometime they even suit the look of the crank arms but these are more focused on one ring up front.
How long does it take to change a chainring or even a swap over a set of 110 to 130? I guess I have a shed stock of most rings in less than 35 tooth (whoops and EDIT 53 tooths !) so will just stay around the old style. I also find 180 mm arms best for my style of off road so I cant see why I need to change from 104 bcd when I use 175 on my cx road and touring frames.
BUT if I had the big $$ to go a new high level set of cranks I doubt I would do campy but go for Rotor (even with the beefy arms) or just sleep happily at night with the OX type Suginos on my road and off tar bikes or even better a set of White Industries MR30 Cranks for all my bikes...
Oh, and Duck have you seen this....
http://www.celebrazio.net/bicycling/shi ... tml#charts
The click on box works for me in the weird world of shimano nomenclature and combos.
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Re: First image of the new Ultegra R8000
Postby Tim » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:18 am
Beautiful cranks to my eye.baabaa wrote:...sleep happily at night with the OX type Suginos...
Is shiny, is good.
Old school here, I love the look of slender polished cranksets.
But, I'm sure I could very quickly grow to liking a new Ultegra or Dura Ace groupset if one were mine.
I originally disliked boxy carbon, sloping top tube frames, now I own two.
My impressions change with time and possession.
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