What, like this?human909 wrote: but seriously if cars wheels failed catastrophically
Abuse anything hard enough....
Postby Thoglette » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:56 pm
What, like this?human909 wrote: but seriously if cars wheels failed catastrophically
Postby Ross » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:49 pm
Postby Ross » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:11 pm
Interesting read but I see it as Alto going above and beyond the standard testing procedures. The other manufacturers were calling Alto out for not doing "real world" testing. Maybe it wasn't but wasn't Alto's test harsher so therefore better?Comedian wrote:And in braking news (or should that be breaking) the other wheel manufacturers have said the test that started this discussion is rubbish..
https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/12/14/en ... rake-test/
Postby uart » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:19 pm
And I notice that all three of those manufacturers who responded (Mavic Enve and Byod) and made exactly the same point that I made above - that the rims with the smoothest braking surface and the least effective stopping power would have an advantage in this test. They must be reading my posts.Comedian wrote:And in braking news (or should that be breaking) the other wheel manufacturers have said the test that started this discussion is rubbish..
https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/12/14/en ... rake-test/
Postby Lukeyboy » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:51 am
I've also seen the result of a Zipp 404 with a Schwable One blowing out on a lightish rider going into the front side hairpin. If you are going to descend Mt Glorious (its not that much of a descent if you want to be honest really) or any steep descent at speed then learn how to corner and control your braking. Mt Glorious has also claimed many riders eating !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! (both motor and non motor bikes) because of poor road craft (I remember telling one group I was in to avoid the edges of the road because if its wet the moss will get you. Needless to say the first proper corner claimed one rider and before I could stop to go back I heard the second corner claiming the second).biker jk wrote:Heavier riders have overheated both carbon and alloy rims descending Glorious so your advice against disc brakes doesn't make any sense.Comedian wrote:Well.. I've ridden down the steep side of glorious in the wet (and the dry) with my CF rims and it was fine.RobertL wrote:So, what would it take in the real world to cause problems to a set of rims?
For example, I'm 100kg, so I'm going to be harder on the brakes than a lot of people. But what sort of speed, hill, braking duration would I need to do to actually cause any damage to a carbon or alloy rim?
I keep reading about "descending the Alps" or "Hotham" but how much braking do I need to do before I get worried?
Thing is.. if you're really going to be climbing big mountains why not pop a set of light alloys in? You won't have to worry on the descent, and you'll have a distinct advantage on the climb over your friends with disc brakes and their deep section CF wheels.
Remember to brush the armcos with your shouldersRobertL wrote:Yeah - I've never ridden Glorious or Nebo. I'll make it one of my goals for next year.
Postby outnabike » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:17 pm
I was just being facetious, I mean who would not use the shoe on the top of the back wheel.Thoglette wrote:I'd heard of that one but was trying to find a reference from someone who'd actually done it.outnabike wrote:Nothing wrong with a decent tree branch for jambing into the ground under the BB either.
Postby warthog1 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:58 pm
Sums it up for me on my carbon clincher Zipps too.djw47 wrote:. I have no concerns ripping down Donna Buang, Baw Baw or Hotham at full throttle on the discs, knowing that the chances of anything failing are virtually nil.
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