2018 Tdf SBS commentary

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby fat and old » Tue Jul 17, 2018 3:35 pm

Hey.....his own blurb:

A self-confessed idiot


https://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/o ... hony%20Tan

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby warthog1 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:04 pm

fat and old wrote:Hey.....his own blurb:

A self-confessed idiot


https://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/o ... hony%20Tan


Hey he's honest too :)

Holidays here.
I was on holidays the year Cadel won too.
This is not quite as enthralling.
They just cut back to the coverage with the Star Wars Imperial march playing.
Sky was on the front.
I'll pay that. :lol:

https://youtu.be/-bzWSJG93P8

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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:03 am

fat and old wrote:Hey.....his own blurb:

A self-confessed idiot


https://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/o ... hony%20Tan


That's clearly not his full quote.

He says he is a "self confessed idiot savant".

That's a substantially different description to just idiot.

idiot savant
noun
- a person who has a mental disability or learning difficulties but is extremely gifted in a particular way, such as the performing of feats of memory or calculation.
- a person who is extremely unworldly but displays natural wisdom and insight.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby fat and old » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:18 am

Duhhhhh :roll: That obviously didn't suit my agenda :lol:

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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:10 am

I drove him around for several days of racing some years back. He didn't strike me as an idiot.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby JPB » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:52 pm

warthog1 wrote:They just cut back to the coverage with the Star Wars Imperial march playing.
Sky was on the front.
I'll pay that. :lol:

https://youtu.be/-bzWSJG93P8

I noticed that too, made me grin.
Intentional or a fantastic coincidence?
My money is on intentional

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby fat and old » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:35 pm

Alex Simmons/RST wrote:I drove him around for several days of racing some years back. He didn't strike me as an idiot.



Sheesh...OK....Anthony Tan is a goddamned expert on the international world tour and has more experience than 20 Belgian drunkards, 30 Cheese eating Frenchies or 40 flare throwing Dutch madmen on Alpe d'Huez. Happy now? :lol: I bow before the alter of Anthony Tan's superior knowledge and personality on broken glass and give thanks that I may do so.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby MichaelB » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:16 pm

Never said he was an idiot, just that he really, really hard to watch/listen to, even more so than Cadel, and as much as I like hiom as a rider, he hopeless at commentating.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby queequeg » Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:18 pm

warthog1 wrote:They just cut back to the coverage with the Star Wars Imperial march playing.
Sky was on the front.
I'll pay that. :lol:

https://youtu.be/-bzWSJG93P8


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Postby Alex Simmons/RST » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:38 pm

fat and old wrote:
Alex Simmons/RST wrote:I drove him around for several days of racing some years back. He didn't strike me as an idiot.



Sheesh...OK....Anthony Tan is a goddamned expert on the international world tour and has more experience than 20 Belgian drunkards, 30 Cheese eating Frenchies or 40 flare throwing Dutch madmen on Alpe d'Huez. Happy now? :lol: I bow before the alter of Anthony Tan's superior knowledge and personality on broken glass and give thanks that I may do so.

I just think calling someone an idiot is a bit over the top when really you just don't like their style.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby Sharkey » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:03 am

Back to the OP - Keenan and McEwen are not employed to do the commentary by SBS. They are employed by the Tour organisation ASO to provide the official English language feed.
Because of this they will always comment on the scenery, chateaus etc because it is part of the script. I am in France at the moment and the French coverage is the same.
Phil and Paul also were employed by ASO but they obviously realised how terrible they were and have replaced them. Sometimes listening to them was like they weren't even watching the race.
The French commentators don't get the non French names right either and are just as parochial. The bits where SBS show an interview in half the screen the French coverage often replays a French rider winning a stage years ago, like Hinault back in the 1980's.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby Arbuckle23 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:34 am

Matt Keenan last night.
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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby Howzat » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:03 am

Sharkey wrote:Phil and Paul also were employed by ASO but they obviously realised how terrible they were and have replaced them. Sometimes listening to them was like they weren't even watching the race.

Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen still do the feed to the US, apparently. But you're 100% spot on, their commentary shed no light whatsoever on what was happening cycling wise. Matt and Robbie are streets ahead - Robbie has the experience but Matt is better prepared so they make a good combo. They're great at picking out riders - last night Matt identified an almost completely obscured rider just by his helmet colour and his shorter stature.

Their French place name pronunciation is more or less the Aussie equivalent of Gabriel Gate's accent, however. But Gabriel Gate is the highlight of the broadcast, for mine. Yum yum!

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby Sharkey » Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:17 pm

My understanding is that Phil and Paul are employed by NBC to do their commentary.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby warthog1 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:19 pm

Sharkey wrote:Back to the OP - Keenan and McEwen are not employed to do the commentary by SBS. They are employed by the Tour organisation ASO to provide the official English language feed.
Because of this they will always comment on the scenery, chateaus etc because it is part of the script. I am in France at the moment and the French coverage is the same.
Phil and Paul also were employed by ASO but they obviously realised how terrible they were and have replaced them. Sometimes listening to them was like they weren't even watching the race.
The French commentators don't get the non French names right either and are just as parochial. The bits where SBS show an interview in half the screen the French coverage often replays a French rider winning a stage years ago, like Hinault back in the 1980's.


Thanks mate. :)

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby Linjellet » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:15 am

So here we are after Stage 14 - 14 long stages of one dimensional droning commentary, the self proclaimed cycling purists unable to see how unbalanced, bland and unsophisticated these guys are. The TdF is on a worldwide platform, do oz cyclists fail to comprehend the largesse of this spectacle? Knowledge of a sport, however great, should not allow bland, droning people to commentate...

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby AndrewCowley » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:54 pm

I like Matt & Robbie's commentary. But would prefer the Eurosport crew though. A good combination of weirdness (Carlton & Sean) and deep knowledge (Brian Smith & Magnus Baxter). And because they don't rely on just two commentators you at least get variety. So if there's someone you don't like (e.g. Carlton isn't everyone's cup of tea) you don't have to suffer for hours on end.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby ValleyForge » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:22 pm

AndrewCowley wrote:... But would prefer the Eurosport crew though. A good combination of weirdness (Carlton & Sean) and deep knowledge (Brian Smith & Magnus Baxter). And because they don't rely on just two commentators you at least get variety. So if there's someone you don't like (e.g. Carlton isn't everyone's cup of tea) you don't have to suffer for hours on end.

Exactly. It's a better job and apart for the self-serving FIFA ads, a better experience.
Except that their are not broadcasting Le Tour. :evil:
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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby g-boaf » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:52 pm

AndrewCowley wrote:I like Matt & Robbie's commentary. But would prefer the Eurosport crew though. A good combination of weirdness (Carlton & Sean) and deep knowledge (Brian Smith & Magnus Baxter). And because they don't rely on just two commentators you at least get variety. So if there's someone you don't like (e.g. Carlton isn't everyone's cup of tea) you don't have to suffer for hours on end.


Magnus Bäckstedt I think. I like his commentary as well.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby road_warrior » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:20 am

I like Matt and Robbie, but I do get a little annoyed by some things. For example the creative english word 'excelerate', which is obviously accelerating at a very high level. :D Once you hear it, you can't unhear it.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby BJL » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:31 am

I don't mind the commentary. For me, it's more that most of the races don't even really seem to matter anymore. It's the same old boring, 'break gets out to a 5-10 minute lead, then gets reeled in over the last 100kms before the relatively 'exciting' last 5kms' thing. It also doesn't help that only Sky and BMC seem to show up with any intention to win the thing anymore. And now Porte's out, BMC have left the building and only Sky left. It's almost as if the other teams are only there to win individual stages or other points classifications. Yay for Sagan.

It's like most sports these days though, it's not how the game was played anymore, it's only who won that matters.

Sad, but true.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby djw47 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:19 am

In fairness to the commentators, it must be incredibly difficult to talk non-stop for 4 or 5 hours when in reality, most of the time, there is nothing happening in the race. I think Matt and Robbie do an excellent job and are a refreshing change form Paul and Phil, although Phil's voice was very soothing to listen to, even if the words were often nonsense.
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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby Mububban » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:49 pm

GCN's preview of stage 17 - I'm really looking forward to this short sharp stage.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby g-boaf » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:00 pm

Mububban wrote:GCN's preview of stage 17 - I'm really looking forward to this short sharp stage.




And saw one of the news websites which gave away everything already. While SBS is still wasting time with fluff segments.

Great - might be able to watch some of it. Nope, instead Mr Gaté and his food segment then a torrent of adverts. Turned off the TV instead.

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Re: 2018 Tdf SBS commentary

Postby Sharkey » Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:15 am

I have been watching the French coverage for the last 10 days. Even though I don't understand except for the names of riders I still prefer it to the garbage that was Phil and Paul.
Now I have moved and have satellite smart tv so watched the UK ITV 4 coverage today. Now they are dull compared to Keenan and McEwen, but still preferable to P & P. If I could only get P& P on NBC I would mute the sound.
Unfortunately there is no Eurosport.

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