anyone see "motorcycle cops" tv show, last night?
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anyone see "motorcycle cops" tv show, last night?
Postby RetroPilot » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:54 am
Still have not heard any more on my offence, which I elected to defend...last correspondence I had on it was March or April..I imagine that if they are no longer proceeding, I'd have to be advised?
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Re: anyone see "motorcycle cops" tv show, last night?
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Postby Ross » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:54 pm
I guess the cop was using his discretion because the rider was visiting from o/s and claimed not to know about helmet laws. I can sympathise somewhat, as I was visiting from Canberra and riding through Rundle Mall in Adelaide (at walking pace) a couple of years ago and was literally pulled from my bike by an overzealous cop - illegal to ride on footpaths in SA, apparently, though I think the law has changed now? I asked him how I was expected to know this as there were no signs anywhere
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Postby RetroPilot » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:09 am
Good chance he is back in Ireland presently without paying anyway.
Yes, the fact that he was o/s may well have factored in, but that is weak too imo, because I have sold many many bikes to the o/s backpacker demographic, and they were all aware of the helmet law by the time they got to that point.
Personally I would rate the headphones as a worse safety liability than no helmet.
the other helmetless rider coming other way, he did not even stop to confront...just communicated to them in shouts and hand signals, to either get off the bike, or he would get off his and bill them.
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Postby RetroPilot » Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:18 am
or..MichaelB wrote:And ...
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Postby RetroPilot » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:26 am
"oh, they could bounce out if you, err, hit a pothole or something, here's a $400 ticket unsecured load"
!! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! off.
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Postby Mugglechops » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:43 am
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Postby Philistine » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:13 pm
Don't count on it. I was done for speeding out in the country a couple of years ago. It was such an absolute crock that I decided to defend it. I rang the court house (at Parkes) on the Friday before the Monday on which I was due to appear, to find out the actual time I needed to be there, and they then informed me that the police were not proceeding. I never heard a word from the police themselves, and I doubt if I would have heard from the court officers if I had not called them.RetroPilot wrote:I imagine that if they are no longer proceeding, I'd have to be advised?
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Postby RetroPilot » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:05 pm
I'm not even up to the point where they give me a court-date.
Cop who did me rang me in March/April...(which I found strange in itself) that conversation became snippier the further it went, but, the intent of it was, that if I was not paying up and wanted to have it heard, then so be it..
silence ever since.
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Re: anyone see "motorcycle cops" tv show, last night?
Postby RetroPilot » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:12 pm
Mugglechops wrote:I was glad he fined him. I wouldn't want to get hit by anything that flew out of the back of ute.
given the shape and nature of the load, and the fact it was not being carried in a flat vehicle without sides, I'd call it practically ludicrous..."oh, they could bounce out on a pothole" is far fetched at best. They looked like printed material boxes, unlikely to be a blow-off risk, and the fact that they are equal to or lower in height to the sides and gate just makes them something that is both difficult to even deploy rope and angles onto, as well as virtually unnecessary..at most, he could have ordered him to tie them...he was joking with his mate about how ridiculous the penalty amount was.
He described himself as an 'ex-truckie"...i wonder if there was even some agenda there...when you have been in courier in small vehicles 1-2Tonne, you soon pick up that some of the big vehicle drivers have got some kind of casual hard-on for you..the driver took it way better than I would have.
For years I ran around with loads exactly resembling that particular one in nature and magnitude, sitting on in that particular situation...I never lost one, and no cop ever hassled me about it.
It's not that I never secured anything, I had ropes/angles/binders on board coming out my wazoo...it's just that, like that...na. Bull****.
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Postby MichaelB » Sat Aug 25, 2018 3:47 pm
Meh. You chose a course of action, so you must then also be able to accept the potential consequences.
It seems the officer in your case, for whatever reason, chose not to exercise his right to provide a warning.
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Postby DrShifty » Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:17 pm
A friend of mine out near Bathurst was telling me that the local coppers are very zealous about the covered load laws. A building apprentice friend of his was booked for driving his ute with his work boots unsecured in the back, complete with heavy fine. So he and his mates have used roofing screws to fasten old boots in the tray of their utes, hoping they get picked up by the same copper.RetroPilot wrote:on another note, I did not like what he did to the bloke with the dropside tray ute with the boxes sitting in it...that was ludicrous.
"oh, they could bounce out if you, err, hit a pothole or something, here's a $400 ticket unsecured load"
!! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! off.
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Postby RetroPilot » Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:15 am
insanity.A building apprentice friend of his was booked for driving his ute with his work boots unsecured in the back, complete with heavy fine.
screwing them down, is funny..
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Re: anyone see "motorcycle cops" tv show, last night?
Postby gorilla monsoon » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:12 pm
RetroPilot wrote:Mugglechops wrote:I was glad he fined him. I wouldn't want to get hit by anything that flew out of the back of ute.
given the shape and nature of the load, and the fact it was not being carried in a flat vehicle without sides, I'd call it practically ludicrous..."oh, they could bounce out on a pothole" is far fetched at best. They looked like printed material boxes, unlikely to be a blow-off risk, and the fact that they are equal to or lower in height to the sides and gate just makes them something that is both difficult to even deploy rope and angles onto, as well as virtually unnecessary..at most, he could have ordered him to tie them...he was joking with his mate about how ridiculous the penalty amount was.
He described himself as an 'ex-truckie"...i wonder if there was even some agenda there...when you have been in courier in small vehicles 1-2Tonne, you soon pick up that some of the big vehicle drivers have got some kind of casual hard-on for you..the driver took it way better than I would have.
For years I ran around with loads exactly resembling that particular one in nature and magnitude, sitting on in that particular situation...I never lost one, and no cop ever hassled me about it.
It's not that I never secured anything, I had ropes/angles/binders on board coming out my wazoo...it's just that, like that...na. Bull****.
Don't know what the law is in Victoria but in NSW it is an offence to have a load on a truck or in a trailer or ute uncovered/unsecured.
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Postby RetroPilot » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:57 pm
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Postby RetroPilot » Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:02 pm
Remembering what happened to me in January over the helmet, and what the purpose of that trip was...to deliver <$50 carparts across town by bike/ptv..
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Postby RobertL » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:45 am
My father worked for a while in a tool shop, and always had tradie customers whinging about having just been booked for not tying down stuff in the back of their utes.
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Re: anyone see "motorcycle cops" tv show, last night?
Postby RetroPilot » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:14 am
my comments really only go to the example in the first episode of motorcycle cops..2 armfuls of 30X30x25 cartons , in the back of a dropside alu tray..
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