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Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby Tehbunneh » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:50 am
I've just recently moved from mountain biking to road biking for commuting to university in the mornings. I need to go from rouse hill to either Blacktown or Seven Hills Station. I have tried a few different routes, mostly using the Old Windsor Rd cycleway. I was wondering what people thought about these routes?
Down Sunnyholt Road to Blacktown - I found the traffic to be pretty rough and the footpath is quite uneven and dangerous on a road bike.. the T-way maybe? I have read that there is a cycleway along there but I didn't see it when I was there.
Down Abbot Rd to Seven Hills - I found this to be alright.. although the cycleway along the side of the road frequently has debris across it (actually came across a plank of wood the other day) and also very close to being side swiped by large trucks. Also it seems to just end at some point (I think it was station rd).
Any ideas from people would be very helpful. Or any alternative routes =D
Thanks guys =D
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby Spiza » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:19 am
I'll try and post a Google link tonight if somebody doesn't beat me to it.
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby westab » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:01 am
If you are heading to Blacktown station (from Old Windsor road) and wish to use the path I would ride along the path till The lights at James Cook Drive and cross Sunnyholt there (both the road and the T-WAY) after the long wait to cross both turn south and travel down Elsom street (its a service road to the old folks home that runs parallel to Sunnyholt) follow this to the end where it comes out on a nice wide footpath then cross Vardys road with the lights and you are back on the shared path.
The reason for this diversion from the path is two fold; 1) Where the path crosses Garling road (near mackers / KFC / Pub etc.) people turning off or on Sunnyholt road smiply rarely see you (or sometimes do and don't care) and may run you down or simply que across the intersection. 2) to cross the lights at Vardys road /Sunnyholt road at best takes 5 min and at worst takes 8 min. (Reason 1 is the reason I don't travel this stretch or road.)
At the Blacktown end of Sunnyholt road I would leave the shared pathway and cross at Fourth Ave turn left Prince street, right at Second ave (roundabout), Left into Boys ave and follow all the way to the station - I think there is a lift to the concourse for the station there.
Just one more thing to mention - It is breaking the rules to ride on the T-Way.
Sorry for the long reply - Hope this helps.
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby Xplora » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:59 pm
Spiza wrote:There's a bike path that starts at the M7 cycleway and runs through Kings Langly, Lalor Park, Seven Hills and brings you out at Seven Hills station. You need to cross some quiet local roads but it's mostly path that runs through reserves and parks.
I'll try and post a Google link tonight if somebody doesn't beat me to it.
Yes please Spiz... I wanted to know the "official" version of this one.
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby CommuRider » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:17 am
westab wrote:Just one more thing to mention - It is breaking the rules to ride on the T-Way.
What?!!
Must have missed the discussion in this. Can horses go on the t-way?
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby westab » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:29 am
CommuRider wrote:westab wrote:Just one more thing to mention - It is breaking the rules to ride on the T-Way.
What?!!
Must have missed the discussion in this. Can horses go on the t-way?
Not sure about horses - but the T-way is considered a bus only lane and for authorised vehicle only. I have asked the RTA & Blacktown Police to confirm my understanding.
So instead I am waiting for the stinking lights again and again and again..........
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby CommuRider » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:24 am
westab wrote:CommuRider wrote:westab wrote:Just one more thing to mention - It is breaking the rules to ride on the T-Way.
What?!!
Must have missed the discussion in this. Can horses go on the t-way?
Not sure about horses - but the T-way is considered a bus only lane and for authorised vehicle only. I have asked the RTA & Blacktown Police to confirm my understanding.
So instead I am waiting for the stinking lights again and again and again..........
Needs to open it to bikes and other vulnerable road users. Might suggest it to BNSW since technically I'm still a member and supposedly they advocate...
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby find_bruce » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:24 pm
CommuRider wrote:Needs to open it to bikes and other vulnerable road users. Might suggest it to BNSW since technically I'm still a member and supposedly they advocate...
Snicker. thanks for that CR.
While you are tilting at windmills, you might like to get rule 158(2)(c)(i) cleared up.
It is legal for a cyclist to ride in a lane with this sign

But illegal to ride in a lane with this sign

The only saving grace of this confusion is that I have not encountered a bus only lane, other than the T-Way - I am sure they are out there, just I haven't seen them
Oh & yes you can also ride a bike in a truck lane - yikes!
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby Xplora » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:24 pm
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a roll through the Tway sometimes LOL
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby coops » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:45 pm
Spiza wrote:There's a bike path that starts at the M7 cycleway and runs through Kings Langly, Lalor Park, Seven Hills and brings you out at Seven Hills station. You need to cross some quiet local roads but it's mostly path that runs through reserves and parks.
I'll try and post a Google link tonight if somebody doesn't beat me to it.
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Se ... gs-Langley
I think this is the one Spiza is referring to. If you go from Old Windsor Rd down Norwest Boulevard the entrance to the cycleway is on the left after the lights. And at the Seven Hills end you can just go straight down Lucas to Prospect Hwy as there's the big shared path along there.
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby wombatK » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:24 pm
find_bruce wrote:
While you are tilting at windmills, you might like to get rule 158(2)(c)(i) cleared up.
It is legal for a cyclist to ride in a lane with this sign
But illegal to ride in a lane with this sign
The only saving grace of this confusion is that I have not encountered a bus only lane, other than the T-Way - I am sure they are out there, just I haven't seen them
The T-way is a different legal entity to a bus only lane. It's a NSW only special additional road rule
157–1 NSW rule: T-Way lanes.
Many vehicles other than buses are authorised to use them (typically, service vehicles). When the rule prohibits drivers for
using the T-Way, the term driver is inclusive of cyclists (as per Rule 16).
I've seen many Bus only lanes used in NSW like this example: Traffic Light Bus Only Lane in combination with lights that have a "bus" phase that allows the bus a head-start to circumvent conflict with traffic.
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby westab » Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:27 pm
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby Spiza » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:05 pm
Google Link
Instead of turning right at Norwest Boulevard you can continue along the Winsor Rd cycleway, cross the bridge and turn right onto the M7C or alternatively take the path through Troubador Pk. They will all lead you to Joseph Banks Dr and onto the path.
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Re: Sunnyholt Rd?
Postby find_bruce » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:11 pm
Spiza's route is Turn right onto Quinn Ave, 40 m, Turn left onto Williamson Ave 200 m, Turn right towards Lucas Rd 110 m, Turn left onto Lucas Rd 71 m Turn right onto Prospect Hwy, continue along to Seven Hills Station.
Coops route is Turn right onto Quinn Ave, Turn right on Lucas Rd, Turn left on Morris St, continue along Artillery Cres, Turn right onto Terminus Rd which leads to Seven Hills Station
In a similar vein, having said I have not encountered a bus only lane, once WombatK pointed out where they were hiding, I saw 4 or 5 on Sunday. None were in spots I would be looking to take a bike & only 1 - the old tramway along Anzac Parade, went for more than about 20 metres to give busses first go at the lights.
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