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Why?

Lets face it what is there good about Sydney. Its dirty arrogant city where you need to earn at least over $1500000 just to survive.

Plus there is almost no where safe to ride.

Ok I accept that I may be a bit bias having never lived in Melbourne (Adelaide and Canberra for the most part) but I have had to travel to Sydney for work quite a bit and I would never take my bike with me.

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jcjordan wrote:Why?

Lets face it what is there good about Sydney. Its dirty arrogant city where you need to earn at least over $1500000 just to survive.

Plus there is almost no where safe to ride.

Ok I accept that I may be a bit bias having never lived in Melbourne (Adelaide and Canberra for the most part) but I have had to travel to Sydney for work quite a bit and I would never take my bike with me.

I agree jcjordan Sydney should not be close to the most liveable. People (generally) are so self centred and done care about how their actions affect others there is no sense of community and helping a mate out. Add in the fact that you often cant walk to the shops or the train station in many parts of Sydney without fearing for your safety especially if you are a woman. From the people I talk to its only the people that grew up here that love it people that have come from out of Sydney to Sydney are not a fan.

I agree somewhat... I was born in Melbourne, moved to Perth when I was 12, then moved to Sydney about 10 years ago.
I do like the city, not as much as I used to though & if I had the option would most likely go back to Perth or move to Melbourne (for the footy & better bike riding..), I can't due to the fact my 3 year old daughter lives here...
I disagree with the $150k part (I assume you mean $150k & not $1.5mill ).. I earn less than half $150k & survive quite comfortably.
Also riding can be a little scary, but where in Aus isn't it?? But I have been commuting for about 5 years & no major incidents. Touch wood...

I went back to Perth for Xmas with my daughter & had forgotten how nice & friendly people there are.. Or on the flip side, how rude Sydney people are (generally, certainly not everyone). Most people are too wrapped up in their own importance.

Could this be one of those "industry" awards that companies make up and award themselves just so they've got some crap plaque to hang in reception?

Mmm.. maybe not

[Edit: Sorry. Didn't realise liking my part of Sydney was being involved in a "... competition".]

I love my little patch of Sydney. I genuinely do not think I have lived anywhere with a better lifestyle.

5 min walk to, IMHO, one of the best beaches in the world. Walkable to 3-4-5 other beaches - all with ocean pools of course. Farmers market, supermarket, 2 bakeries, a few cafes, Sardinian (awesome, one of the best restaurants in the country), Thai (good), Indian (very good), Japanese (not bad), 2 Chinese (ok), 2 Pizza (passable, but I am a connoisseur) restaurants and a pub etc all 5 mins walk away. Express bus stop to city right outside. 30 min walk/10 min cycle to Ferry and lots more shops and restaurants. 30 min walk/5 min drive or cycle to local (big) mall. 65 Min ride to work which I can do almost all of on cycle paths and quiet back roads if I want - awesome views on the way too. 6 (or so?) bike shops near by, 1 of which is walkable/pushable with excellent mechanics. BMX track rideable distance (and another - with periodic CX racing too, 15 mins drive 40 mins cycle away) and a skate park walkable for when the nipper is older. Good MTB tracks ridable. Loads of nicely equipped parks (6-7?) within walkable distance which never seem to suffer any vandalism.

What have I missed?

Most of our neighbours seem to have just had kids as well as us, so very neighbourly at the mo.

Now onto the quality of the primary public education nearby...

But then again, it depends entirely what you want in life. For the cost of our two bed unit we could have a McMansion (and far more annoying commutes, maybe) somewhere else.

Simonn I would agree that the northern beaches are the best place to live, if only it wasn't for the smug people who live there

/unsubscribe latest pi55ing competition

Thanks peoples... have fun...

Agree re: pi55ing contest, but shouldn't the question be "why isn't BNSW doing anything?" period?
You people will never learn.

No city is worth living in. Few advocacy organisations do anything in the eyes of the individual.

End of story.

silentbutdeadly wrote:No city is worth living in. Few advocacy organisations doing anything in the eyes of the individual.

End of story.

That's because the only ones you know of are doing nothing.

The 2nd Womble wrote:

silentbutdeadly wrote:... Few advocacy organisations do anything in the eyes of the individual.

End of story.

That's because the only ones you know of are doing nothing.

I suspect you misinterpret me. From the point of view of the individual...few advocacy organisations appear to do anything 'for the individual'. That's definitely not to say that they do nothing - I'm part of a few such organisations at either local, regional and national level...and I know for damn sure they don't do nothing!!!

As individuals, we are inherently selfish though and are typically incapable of seeing a bigger picture than their own little world...

I would also disagree with this statement, including your other clarifications.

Pedal Power in the ACT has done alot for me as a individual.
For example there efforts have improved the standard of on road cycle lanes. This has directly effected my ability to ride to work.

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silentbutdeadly wrote:

The 2nd Womble wrote:

silentbutdeadly wrote:... Few advocacy organisations do anything in the eyes of the individual.

End of story.

That's because the only ones you know of are doing nothing.

I suspect you misinterpret me. From the point of view of the individual...few advocacy organisations appear to do anything 'for the individual'. That's definitely not to say that they do nothing - I'm part of a few such organisations at either local, regional and national level...and I know for damn sure they don't do nothing!!!

As individuals, we are inherently selfish though and are typically incapable of seeing a bigger picture than their own little world...

Ahhh, gotcha and +1

Why isn't BNSW doing something about this?

Stupid question

They are still waiting for approval from Mr Gay before commenting

JohnJoyner wrote: Also riding can be a little scary, but where in Aus isn't it??

Perths cycle path network is pretty good at keeping us cyclists and motorists separate. Whilst the infrastructure here could always be better, I'm sure it's an example to other states in many ways.

To all those who complain about living in any Australian city, you haven't seen the world and have been completely spoilt.

Mulger bill wrote:Why isn't BNSW doing something about this?

Stupid question

They are still waiting for approval from Mr Gay before commenting

See, they are doing something then!

Meanwhile, it's not really that bad in Sydney. Take a look at the website of the well known Kadir van Lohuizen of Noor Images:

http://www.lohuizen.net/

That's an extreme reality check. Some things about Sydney might drive us mad, but there is a hell of a lot to love about this city as well.