When will M2 reopen...

Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby DoubleSpeeded » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:59 pm

queequeg wrote:
DoubleSpeeded wrote:Enjoy it while it lasts people



Kellyville North is the new suburb ... and there is 25 ACRES sold to Developers by ZARZAR Development property.. (thats a whopping 101,171.41sq Metres).. thats estimated 200 homes.

=(


200 homes (AT) 4 people per home is only 800 people. That is not that much, maybe one street lined with houses.

How long before the Schofields (long abandoned) Airport gets reclaimed like happened to Hoxton Park a few years ago.



yeah but that Scholfields EST 20,000 homes?.....

average house has 2 cars... thats 40,000 cars... Windsor Road for e.g from james Ruse Drive past seven hills is already a nightmare after 2:30pm... imagine the devastation
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby find_bruce » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:20 pm

I am going to update wikpedia Bike Paths in Sydney re the M2. Does this reflect the current status of this sorry saga ? Anything you would add re exit and entry points.
Cyclists have been poorly treated on the M2 Hills Motorway, between North Ryde and Seven Hills. The M2 does not have a separate cycle lane or path. Instead cyclists are expected to use the breakdown lane. Cyclist access was removed in 2010 during construction work on the M2 upgrade. During that time, cyclists were required to use an alternate route on suburban streets that was 5 km longer, steeper & slower [link to http://www.hillsmotorway.com.au/files/M ... uction.pdf ]. The design of the alternative route was criticised due to safety concerns [link to http://www.pushon.com.au/?p=295 ].

In August 2013 access was restored westbound from Delhi Road to Windsor Road. Citybound access was restored only for the section from Windsor Road to Pennant Hills Road due to work to stabilise the embankment near the eastbound lanes at Marsfield. This work is expected to take until September 2015 and during that time cyclists will be unable to access the M2 city bound between Pennant Hills Road and Lane Cove Road. [link to http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadprojects/ ... 2_upgrade/ ]. The citybound alternate route is [link to http://www.hillsm2.com.au/files/alt_cyc ... stage3.pdf ]
The M2 connects to the M7 at Seven Hills and to ???? at Delhi Road

I think the Naremburn to North Ryde Cycleway section will also need to be updated as it currently says "You can transfer from the M2 cycleway (only operating east bound) at the junction of Epping Rd and Lane Cove Rd"
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby duncanm » Wed May 07, 2014 10:02 am

Any change in the Eastbound route between PH Rd and Lane Cove Road?

I was doing a bit of strava stalking this morning ( http://labs.strava.com ) and noticed that someone was riding east.

There's been a fair bit of activity of the "M2-PHR to LCR" segment, too: http://www.strava.com/segments/5216463
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby Boognoss » Wed May 07, 2014 10:50 am

duncanm wrote:Any change in the Eastbound route between PH Rd and Lane Cove Road?

I was doing a bit of strava stalking this morning ( http://labs.strava.com ) and noticed that someone was riding east.

There's been a fair bit of activity of the "M2-PHR to LCR" segment, too: http://www.strava.com/segments/5216463


No change, but I've seen some riders east of P/Hills Rd from time to time either from car/PT on the occasion I don't ride to work, or during my westbound commute home by bike/car/PT.
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby queequeg » Wed May 07, 2014 2:42 pm

duncanm wrote:Any change in the Eastbound route between PH Rd and Lane Cove Road?

I was doing a bit of strava stalking this morning ( http://labs.strava.com ) and noticed that someone was riding east.

There's been a fair bit of activity of the "M2-PHR to LCR" segment, too: http://www.strava.com/segments/5216463


Nope, the crane near browns waterhole is still at work on the embankment under the M2, and even if they finish that soon, I would say there is zero chance of them
opening eastbound from PHR until lane 3 from LCR to Delhi Rd is done, which is around 12 to 18 months away.

That will be just in time for the NorthConnex tunnel project to evict cyclists from the M2 for another 5 years!
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby duncanm » Wed May 07, 2014 3:19 pm

Boognoss wrote:
duncanm wrote:Any change in the Eastbound route between PH Rd and Lane Cove Road?

I was doing a bit of strava stalking this morning ( http://labs.strava.com ) and noticed that someone was riding east.

There's been a fair bit of activity of the "M2-PHR to LCR" segment, too: http://www.strava.com/segments/5216463


No change, but I've seen some riders east of P/Hills Rd from time to time either from car/PT on the occasion I don't ride to work, or during my westbound commute home by bike/car/PT.


So are these people just riding the lane? I understood there was minimal / no breakdown lane.
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby vosadrian » Wed May 07, 2014 3:45 pm

I rode it recently at about 4:30am on a saturday. I think two cars may have gone past... none in the section that has no shoulder. I saw someone riding it the other day when I was driving and it was pretty busy. I would not recommend that. I suspect most of the Strava activity is from people doing it very early on their way to a weekend morning ride.
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby Boognoss » Wed May 07, 2014 4:12 pm

duncanm wrote:
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duncanm wrote:Any change in the Eastbound route between PH Rd and Lane Cove Road?

I was doing a bit of strava stalking this morning ( http://labs.strava.com ) and noticed that someone was riding east.

There's been a fair bit of activity of the "M2-PHR to LCR" segment, too: http://www.strava.com/segments/5216463


No change, but I've seen some riders east of P/Hills Rd from time to time either from car/PT on the occasion I don't ride to work, or during my westbound commute home by bike/car/PT.


So are these people just riding the lane? I understood there was minimal / no breakdown lane.


There are two sections where there is minimal/no shoulder at each workzone. One at Browns Waterhole (on a slight climb) and the other between LCR and Delhi Rd. I wouldn't do it myself unless very early like Adrian did. Even then, with the police presence during peak hours each way that I see every day I personally probably wouldn't risk it (being pulled up on it).
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby rogan » Wed May 07, 2014 5:02 pm

Yep, agree with all that. It's quite possibly rideable (but not legally) as far as LC Road when the workers are not at Browns Waterhole (usually early weekend mornings, but this is not guaranteed). Otherwise, stay away. After that, the section to Delhi Rd is not rideable at all, by my standards at least.

The section between Herring Rd and LC Road is perfectly rideable, although cyclists are currently banned in that section too.

The other point, speaking to someone who should know, the section to Delhi Rd should be finished relatively soon, in the next few months. The major works around Browns Waterhole, well they will be going on for much longer, until this time next year at least.
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby queequeg » Wed May 07, 2014 9:27 pm

rogan wrote:Yep, agree with all that. It's quite possibly rideable (but not legally) as far as LC Road when the workers are not at Browns Waterhole (usually early weekend mornings, but this is not guaranteed). Otherwise, stay away. After that, the section to Delhi Rd is not rideable at all, by my standards at least.

The section between Herring Rd and LC Road is perfectly rideable, although cyclists are currently banned in that section too.

The other point, speaking to someone who should know, the section to Delhi Rd should be finished relatively soon, in the next few months. The major works around Browns Waterhole, well they will be going on for much longer, until this time next year at least.


They're still doing excavation work for the on ramp and 3rd lane, so unless they're working 24 hours a day on it, i can't see it being finished until the end of the year at least.
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby Boognoss » Mon May 12, 2014 4:43 pm

I noticed today that the bus stops west of Windsor Rd are now getting their upgrade (extra barriers to protect the bus and allow 100kph speed limit to be restored from Seven Hills to Windsor Rd).

I was worried when the big motorway sign at the Norwest exit said the shoulder is closed ahead for roadworks, but there was no mention of bikes having to exit the motorway. The concrete barriers protecting the construction zone at the first bus stop (only work area at the moment) only block half of the shoulder to allow bikes to get passed. Not sure if this was deliberate or a mistake....

I've emailed the M2 enquiry address this arvo and I'll report back when I receive a reply (usually 2-3 days). I asked what will happen both during the works and then after once the extra barriers are constructed.
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Re: When will M2 reopen...

Postby Speccy » Tue May 13, 2014 1:56 pm

> The section between Herring Rd and LC Road is perfectly rideable, although cyclists are currently banned in that section too.

1 The on ramp is at "Christie Road" not "Herring Road"
2 The sign says "No Cyclists during construction (date covered over)"

I see no construction...

However, if you start from Herring Road and end up going north on Lane Cove Road, the surface road option is almost as safe and almost as quick.
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