Bike Blitz 25/2/16
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Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby Gondor » Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:17 am
Going on in Sydney CBD is a bike blitz. Cyclists are being stopped in bike lane(s) and being fined for minor things such as no bells, or reflectors.
This FB group https://www.facebook.com/groups/helmetc ... 729664070/ shares the locations of cops and what not.
If memory serves correctly, we do need reflectors and bells by law.
Another great and plausible reason to visit the LBS and buy something new
Stay safe.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby ItsAllnew » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:40 pm
Then within 60 seconds jumped out to stop a rider who had just ridden through the red lights on Alfred St.
They are getting serious.. with over 100 fines increasing to the level charged to car drivers your morning trip could get expensive. .
Take care..
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby Nate » Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:49 pm
(not unusual for north sydney cops - they'll do nothing for cyclists except fine you for no helmet)
Correct me if i'm wrong, but reflectors are required when you ride at night (white front & red rear) or if you're selling a bicycle (ADR compliance)
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Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby queequeg » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:05 pm
Only the red reflector is required. The white one, along with the Orange wheel reflectors and/or pedal reflectors must be on the bike when it is sold to you, but can then be removed as they are not needed by the road rules.Nate wrote:saw 2 cops in car (AT) harbour bridge Nth Syd this morning, about 08:15 - looked like they were setting up.
(not unusual for north sydney cops - they'll do nothing for cyclists except fine you for no helmet)
Correct me if i'm wrong, but reflectors are required when you ride at night (white front & red rear) or if you're selling a bicycle (ADR compliance)
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby g-boaf » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:08 pm
I wonder if they'll dare to turn up near race meetings and ping people for no bells or reflectors...
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby herzog » Thu Feb 25, 2016 3:10 pm
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby stylo » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:26 pm
Riding at night to dawn - no front or rear wheel reflector .. no problem ?
Riding at night to dawn - have rear light (and front) but no rear red reflector .. get fined ? The reflectors on my shoe aren't red, don't even know if they have reflectors on them. I'll check tonight.
Not keen to jump on my bike for a ride and get fined for not having a bell and no rear red reflector !!!
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby biker jk » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:38 pm
258 Equipment on a bicycle
A person must not ride a bicycle that does not have:
(a) at least 1 effective brake, and
(b) a bell, horn, or similar warning device, in working order.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
259 Riding at night
The rider of a bicycle must not ride at night, or in hazardous weather conditions causing reduced visibility, unless the bicycle, or the rider, displays:
(a) a flashing or steady white light that is clearly visible for at least 200 metres from the front of the bicycle, and
(b) a flashing or steady red light that is clearly visible for at least 200 metres from the rear of the bicycle, and
(c) a red reflector that is clearly visible for at least 50 metres from the rear of the bicycle when light is projected onto it by a vehicle’s headlight on low-beam.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby stylo » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:45 pm
The rule reads clear enough i.e. I interpret it to mean that in addition to having a light at the front and back, a red reflector needs to be affixed to some part of the bike viewed from behind.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby biker jk » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:49 pm
Note that some rear lights have built in reflectors. An example I own is the Cygolite Hotshot.stylo wrote:Thanks, that's fantastic.
The rule reads clear enough i.e. I interpret it to mean that in addition to having a light at the front and back, a red reflector needs to be affixed to some part of the bike viewed from behind.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby stylo » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:00 pm
I'd hazard a guess that the reflector would only be needed when the light doesn't work (flat battery) so at least a car coming from behind has some warning there is a bike ahead of them. But then, said policeman will fine you for not having a functioning rear light
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby westab » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:06 pm
I'm still waiting to see the ads on the mainstream media about the "meter matters" laws - like they have the "ride to live" ads. Do you think I should hold my breath
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby find_bruce » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:22 pm
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby biker jk » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:32 pm
True but I'll be eagerly awaiting a similar blitz on motorists breaking the minimum passing distance rule.find_bruce wrote:Given how many fines are set to jump dramatically, a blitz now might be considered a cheap warning compared to the hip pocket damage soon to be inflicted.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby Mulger bill » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:19 pm
All same PDW Radbot.biker jk wrote:Note that some rear lights have built in reflectors. An example I own is the Cygolite Hotshot.stylo wrote:Thanks, that's fantastic.
The rule reads clear enough i.e. I interpret it to mean that in addition to having a light at the front and back, a red reflector needs to be affixed to some part of the bike viewed from behind.
Standard prismatic reflectors are not worth the plastic they're made of IMO, pathetic useful angle that won't do jack mid corner.
Better some of THIS, a small strip low down around the seatstays will do the job WAY better with little aesthetic impact.
I'm kinda hoping a few overzealous plods try booking some riders for no wheel reflectors then get a spanking in court.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby Nate » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:20 pm
When the laws come in & the media is all over how the rest of the world is going the other way & Dunc has no idea...
he'll point out todays blitz & how its "proof" how many cyclists are breaking the law daily.
Expect the front page of the terrorgraph to be quoting figures from today about how many law breaking cyclists there are - all to make sure they have enough noise to drown out their stupidity of the new laws.
Its because we've been making enough positive noise - they need to ramp it up!
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby westab » Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:36 pm
M.B. I agree - I could go into the micro replication that makes it work but it's boring. Needless to say I will use this gear and according to Mrs Westab it grabs attention better than tail lights, including hi vis reflective vests.Mulger bill wrote:
Standard prismatic reflectors are not worth the plastic they're made of IMO, pathetic useful angle that won't do jack mid corner.
Better some of THIS, a small strip low down around the seatstays will do the job WAY better with little aesthetic impact.
I'm kinda hoping a few overzealous plods try booking some riders for no wheel reflectors then get a spanking in court.
Disclaimer - please note I do work for 3M but not in the division that makes this product.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby DojoBuff » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:09 am
I don't understand. If this is law then why can bike shops sell a bike without a reflector? I just checked my bike I purchased about a year ago and much to my surprise it has no red reflector. I got two rear lights at the time of purchase but apparently that is not enough to escape a fine. And I was planning to ride across the bridge and through the CBD early Sunday morning when it will be dark.biker jk wrote: 259 Riding at night
(c) a red reflector that is clearly visible for at least 50 metres from the rear of the bicycle when light is projected onto it by a vehicle’s headlight on low-beam.
Maximum penalty: 20 penalty units.[/i]
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby bychosis » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:25 am
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby Gondor » Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:17 am
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby JdM » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:23 am
The bell thing provision seems stupid seeing as you cannot ride on the footpath anyway. Say What is a bell going to do out on the road amongst traffic noise.bychosis wrote:I think there is an exemption for the reflectors/bell for bikes designed for competition use or some similar wording. Ask your lbs they should have a big box of reflectors and bells to give you should you need it. I've got a half dozen or so in the spares kit, stripped from clunkers 'just in case' but mostly for the brackets that might come in handy one day.
Shared path, ok maybe. You could still argue it's safer to call out while keeping both hands free to control the bike safely anyway.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby zebee » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:36 am
I ride a lot on shared paths and a bell is way way way better than calling out. Peds are conditioned to ignore yelling as you get a lot of that as a ped from people who are drunk, aggro, or disturbed. Or just not anything to do with you. A bell is a known noise and they react to it.JdM wrote:
The bell thing provision seems stupid seeing as you cannot ride on the footpath anyway. Say What is a bell going to do out on the road amongst traffic noise.
Shared path, ok maybe. You could still argue it's safer to call out while keeping both hands free to control the bike safely anyway.
(The bell on the Brompton is definitely a bobby-dodger and useless as a warning device. I find I have to yell "ding! ding!" loudly from right behind walkers to get the same reaction as the proper bell on the 'bent gets from well back. Yelling "excuse me" or "bike" or anything else gets no reaction most of the time)
If you can't control your bike with one hand at shared path speeds get the training wheels back on, you are a danger to yourself and others.
Bell is the law, you get to lobby to change the law (good luck...) or you put on a teeny bell and cope with the 10g weight penalty. I am sure you aren't thinking "I will not look like I am a pukka bike racer training for a national race if I have a bell" are you? Even a little bit?
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby g-boaf » Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:48 am
That's a pretty cheap and nasty shot, but it's utterly typical of the tribe mentality of cyclists, fire away with spectacularly nasty insults and then wonder why those you insult aren't nice in return or don't wave when they are riding towards you, or overtaking for that matter.zebee wrote:If you can't control your bike with one hand at shared path speeds get the training wheels back on, you are a danger to yourself and others.
Bashing away on the bell should not be an excuse for not slowing down appropriately and giving people a bit of warning that you are passing. It doesn't kill the average speed to do that.
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby Bourney » Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:52 am
Ring a bell and people look up, get confused, walk across the path.
Say excuse me, and they just turn around..
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Re: Bike Blitz 25/2/16
Postby stylo » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:03 pm
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Must cyclists carry ID?
From March 1, riders must carry photo ID such as a driver's licence or NSW Photo Card. A photo of your ID on your phone is also acceptable. Police can only ask to see ID if they suspect you have broken another law. The penalty for no ID will be $106 - but will only be enforced from March 2017.
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