Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby marty_one » Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:46 am

I have been following this event a bit more closely since I lost my father to cancer in June, as I am going to take part in next years event. They posted the route of the ride recently, which to say I was a little disappointed with:

http://ml13.conquercancer.org.au/site/P ... ml13_route

Personally I would love to see something like this ride out into country vic instead of down to the beach.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby takeitasread » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:18 pm

It is for a good cause but I gotta say it is a high pressure event as far as fund raising is concerned. We had a team of eight and raised over 20 grand last year without being too fussed about spreading the money between the eight. One of our guys was under the threshold amount and they weren't going to let him ride until we threatened to pull the team out and even then only let him ride grudgingly, which I thought was most unusual.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby marty_one » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:58 pm

Until today I did not realise that you had to raise at least $2500 before you could even take part of the ride. That has put me off slightly though, $2500 for me is a lot of money to try and raise when I have not done any fund raising before.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby darkelf921 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 3:29 pm

It is definitely hard to raise $2500 these days. However if you break it down per month, it is an easier target. Most of my donations come just before the end of financial year so everyone can get their receipts for claiming with their tax.

This is my third year. I found Facebook useless for fund raising. Don't be afraid to email your friends, family, work colleagues, etc for a donation. I was surprised how many donations I received once I sent the email.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby backofthebunch » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:04 am

I did it last year, got the target but was lucky that I work in a company with 200 people on email and play at a footy club with a good email distibution list.

$2,500 is not to be sneezed at though
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby Dimis » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:31 pm

takeitasread wrote:It is for a good cause but I gotta say it is a high pressure event as far as fund raising is concerned. We had a team of eight and raised over 20 grand last year without being too fussed about spreading the money between the eight. One of our guys was under the threshold amount and they weren't going to let him ride until we threatened to pull the team out and even then only let him ride grudgingly, which I thought was most unusual.


Sadly I had a similar experience... I was all gun ho ready to go, till they got a little shirty about the funds upfront. That made me a little gun shy... I had the funds ready to go, but my riding partner didn't.

They were quite persistent too, on the follow up phone calls... even after I politely declined by saying I couldn't make the date, as an act of solidarity to my riding budy.

It sadly made me become a little cynical about the whole thing. I couldn't help thinking YES - its a good cause, but with so many of these researches and doctors driving expensive prestige cars and riding overpriced Pinarellos and what not, I thought to myself there are many charities that are equally quite deserving.

In my mind, I'd have thought any extra dollar is a bonus... even just generating awareness would be worth it. Evidently, not in their minds.

I hope this doesn't burn others off from doing it, just sharing my experience.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby marty_one » Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:28 pm

Dimis wrote:Sadly I had a similar experience... I was all gun ho ready to go, till they got a little shirty about the funds upfront. That made me a little gun shy... I had the funds ready to go, but my riding partner didn't.

They were quite persistent too, on the follow up phone calls... even after I politely declined by saying I couldn't make the date, as an act of solidarity to my riding budy.

It sadly made me become a little cynical about the whole thing. I couldn't help thinking YES - its a good cause, but with so many of these researches and doctors driving expensive prestige cars and riding overpriced Pinarellos and what not, I thought to myself there are many charities that are equally quite deserving.

In my mind, I'd have thought any extra dollar is a bonus... even just generating awareness would be worth it. Evidently, not in their minds.

I hope this doesn't burn others off from doing it, just sharing my experience.


Interesting, think I might just make a donation directly to the cancer research and keep doing the other cycling events I like to do and ignore. It just seems like its put on more for groups supported by corporations than individuals who want to part take in the event. I work in a small company, I could potentially get donations from other local groups, but really I think I might be pushing smelly stuff uphill to reach the target.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby darkelf921 » Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:51 pm

marty_one wrote:
Interesting, think I might just make a donation directly to the cancer research and keep doing the other cycling events I like to do and ignore. It just seems like its put on more for groups supported by corporations than individuals who want to part take in the event. I work in a small company, I could potentially get donations from other local groups, but really I think I might be pushing smelly stuff uphill to reach the target.


I can only speak for the Brisbane ride. I have participated in all three years. The big problem when you have a ride like his is insurance etc. however, regardless of this, the minimum goal almost put me off in the first year. However I am really glad I participated. It is a far more emotional ride than the other charity rides I have participated in. It is also far better organized than other rides. You have to raise about $200 per month (approx). This is how I look at it. Over the three years, we have now raised over $25,000 (my team mate and I). Just break it down to manageable targets and it happens.

I have no association with the ride other than as a rider who has already registered for next year's ride.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby takeitasread » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:34 am

It is a great cause, no doubt, but seriously whoever is in charge of the event has some curious ideas. We found it high pressure stuff and the persistent phone calls from them simply weren't warranted. Never again, there are plenty of other great causes out there.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby WITHND » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:53 pm

I have just registered interest in this years ride however after reading the above it is already leaving a sour taste in my mouth... Would rather them have a more realistic entry fee and cap rider numbers first in best dressed not enforce such a high per rider $ target... $2,500 per person is a huge sum given i was going to do this with my partner and our friends it is going to be almost impossible to get $10k for 4 of us and if you miss the target no ride but they get the ..

Great cause but very questionable funding tactics :(

Also the nice lady did not mention I had to get the $2,500 to ride funny that get you committed for $50 and then bam hope you can get another $2,500 or no ride >>>

Any other similar events I could look into doing that don't require months of spamming colleagues / friends for cash?

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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby marty_one » Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:15 pm

Well there is this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=68135
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby GTPilot » Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:14 pm

I ride in the great cycle challenge last year. That was raising money for kids cancer.
No registration fees
No minimum targets
No specific event.

Just nominate you goal over the month of October in the amount of k's you'll ride, rally the troops to donate, and ride. Ride when you want and how and where you want. If you normally ride 1000k per month challenge your self and nominate 1500.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby WITHND » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:00 pm

marty_one wrote:Well there is this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=68135


GTPilot wrote:I ride in the great cycle challenge last year. That was raising money for kids cancer.
No registration fees
No minimum targets
No specific event.

Just nominate you goal over the month of October in the amount of k's you'll ride, rally the troops to donate, and ride. Ride when you want and how and where you want. If you normally ride 1000k per month challenge your self and nominate 1500.


Thanks Marty & GT Pilot yeah I am actually aiming to do the shorter triathlons in the 2014-2105 Gatorade Tri-Series so that may end up keeping me out of trouble for a while and might aim to do one of the endurance rides after mid 2015 when I turn 40 also should have far better legs / endurance by then as only been on my road bike for a few weeks so far :)

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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby MattyK » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:04 pm

I'm registered for this year's ride with my wife. Slowly working on fundraising but it isn't easy. Just as well people at work like chocolate!

Gotta get some more training miles in too!
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby takeitasread » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:44 pm

MattyK wrote:I'm registered for this year's ride with my wife. Slowly working on fundraising but it isn't easy. Just as well people at work like chocolate!

Gotta get some more training miles in too!


Expect high pressure tactics from the organisers regarding your fundraising.

Never again. Just saying.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby MattyK » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:09 pm

Yeah, they've been on the phone several times. Not aggressive mind you, mostly they appear encouraging with regards to training and offering tips for fundraising. But yeah, it was all my wife's idea, the fundraising thing is new to me and I hate hassling friends.

Next time they call though I will be asking how much % of the fundraising actually goes to research/equipment, and how much goes on overheads...
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby husked » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:40 pm

I was considering this ride, although I've never done it before, but heard about it for many years. This thread in particular has put me off the ride, it seems the pressure to fundraise would be frustrating considering those that want to ride may more or less have personal reasons or a goal for themselves, don't get me wrong fundraising is great and all but when you have community fundraising events and such (e.g run for the kids) pressure like people describe make it feel more like selling steak knives than doing it for the cause.
I do wish all those fundraising and the ride itself all the best.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby cerb » Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:50 pm

This whole concept is kind of Pyramid-scheme like... It's hard for a large company to approach random people and get their donations, so they recruit you to harass your friends and colleagues to do the fundraising work for them. Don't make the minimum target? No biggie, we'll take your $50 donation anyway..

I was interested in the ride when they first did it, then saw the fundraising requirements and lack of ride information, so immediately discounted it. It's especially bad that they don't announce the route until many people are already committed to the fundraising. The previous routes have seemed pretty boring, but at least the ride support seems to be improving with each iteration (the first one was apparently non-existant).

The whole thing stinks if you ask me... it really only seems to tug on the emotions of those who have (or had) family or friends with cancer in order to recruit more fundraising bodies!

As mentioned previously - organise a proper, interesting ride and charge a reasonable entry fee which lets you gain some profits. For me, the AGF Gran Fondo is the perfect example of what they should be doing.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby mtb1011 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:49 pm

have to say you're spot on cerb; you are compelled to hassle friends for $$$$sss - they call you asking for $$$$ss and then make you feel guilty if you haven't hit your target. the name bugs the hell out of me let's pick the most emotive name as if riding in this crap event will somehow cure cancer. and finally after asking them questions, yes they are a company and yes not all the money raised goes to Peter Mac, so what's the point of putting on an event when you could just donate directly to Peter Mac? think profiteering from cancer might be a better description.
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Re: Peter Mac - Ride to Conquer Cancer Route

Postby macca33 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:24 pm

The aforementioned 'fundraising' pressures certainly take a bit of the shine off this event. $2.5k is a fair bit to ask - granted, it is a ride for a very worthy cause, but I'd rather donate my own way and ride with my mates - as well as participate in other charitable rides with a lot less pressure.

One thing I do wonder, though, is where the funding is drawn from to support the very visible advertising campaigns for this ride???

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