Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby landscapecadmonkey » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:49 am

Comedian wrote:I don't think they have done the biggest and most persistent ones near the Grange library turnoff but we should take all victories. :)

I saw one decently graded swale adjacent to the embankment near Crushers, just before the Casuarinas.... and this part of the path was clear and clean all the way through there, which is usually the last to be drained. Not a spot of water, dried mud or sand along there. The puddles i saw were on the other side of Gympie Rd underpass.

Nudgee Beach is a great mini destination as well.... to go from inner city to the laid back wilds of the egde of Moreton Bay along an almost completely car-free route is pretty special. Theres a great little cafe there with very friendly owners. Just not open on Tuesdays which has caught me out a few times.

And one more thing about KBB while im banging on about it... what other major bikeway, along a relatively safe route, can you find 3 semi-major shopping centres (Brookside, Stafford & Toombul)...Ok theres are probably heaps, but as a piece if vital infrastructure for those of us trying to ditch the car.... im impressed.

im done......
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:01 pm

landscapecadmonkey wrote:And one more thing about KBB while im banging on about it... what other major bikeway, along a relatively safe route, can you find 3 semi-major shopping centres (Brookside, Stafford & Toombul)...Ok theres are probably heaps, but as a piece if vital infrastructure for those of us trying to ditch the car.... im impressed.

im done......


Yep... that's one of the reasons why I'd like to move adjacent to it one day. :)
Once you can climb hills on a bike it's all downhill. :mrgreen:

Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby landscapecadmonkey » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:06 pm

Ducked out to Nudgee Beach this afternoon from Wilston, joining the KBBP behind the Grange Library.

Wow...havent been on there for a little while, maybe 3-5 weeks, but what a difference. Still a work in progress... a little bit of side track cyclocross'ing at a few stages, but coming along in leaps and bounds..

Biggest differences are the nearly completed Gympie Rd and Sandgate Rd underpasses. No more goat tracks, multi bridge crossings and dodging trucks. The landscaping is a little over the top, and where the path splits and heads up to the road, is a little confusing (emphasis on little), but now just a straight run. A few other spots they have new paths laid, but the horror (over emphasised ) bone jarring section just west of Gympie Rd lives on, although im sure that is on the cards for replacement.

i simply dont remember the Sandgate Road underpass without the safety fencing, or the site sheds.......all gone, and now a straight run path along there, adjacent to some serious Kedron Brook water way works / rock lining etc.

These major road underpasses were the worst bits, and they are almost 90% complete, and once the new planting and turf strike, will come up pretty well.

But, the down side i found is that a large proportion of the new concrete paths could have been laid and finished significantly better as a cycle infrastructure than they have been. They arch longitudinally in the laid segments, and join in a pronounced v-section at the tool/control joints, which is weird given that the formwork would have been level throughout. Its ok if your doing 10klm, but at 20-25 not that flash an experience, considering they were paying the money for new paths anyway...seems a shame. But they are going down wider, so more room for the increased ped/cycle traffic. The next move should be a centre line i feel. A very simple and effective behavior modifier.

The Shaw Rd crossing has been jooshed, with mediocre results. What were considerable road, kerbing and planting works, have only really added a slightly larger mid-road bay. The rest is fluff. It doesnt necessarily announce a crossing any more than previously, as 99% of the treatment is on the ground plane..... which you dont notice at speed. Ive seen all amount of whacky plans proposed, but a good old fashion pedestrian crossing is still the most effective option.

So all in all, fairly significant advances in a short period of time, adding to what is a sensational route in the first place.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:47 pm

The bit from the library turnoff to the bridge at the Stafford foot ball club is a bit of a mess at the moment. That's going to inconvenience lots of commuters until finished.

They have put a diversion down next to the creek with blue metal in places. I'll say it's not suitable for road bikes. I rode through there last night and it was a bit hairy. Would be fine on an MTB or hybrid with wider tyres. They do ask you to dismount... but it's quite a way to walk when you're hungry. :shock: :mrgreen:
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Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby beauyboy » Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:37 am

I went out there the week before last and I found it easier and safer (35mm tyres) to ride on the grass then try and ride on the gravel path.
I think shreaded rubber tyre mats would be more help in the future then putting down gravel. That way they could be reused but then again some sh*thead would proably nic them.

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby ekib » Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:54 pm

Does anyone know whose paying for this upgrade of the KBB?
Does anyone know how much it costs per m or Km?

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby molly » Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:27 am

I'd really like to ride this bikeway out to nudgee beach, can anybody suggest the best way to get from the cbd and connect up to the KBB? Probably do it on the weekend
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:10 pm

Molly, it's pretty much the reverse of this route: http://ridewithgps.com/trips/12458 or this one: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Nu ... via-Grange

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby molly » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:10 pm

Thanks Max, I found a similar map and thought that looked the best, seems to avoid major roads, just unfamiliary with the path through roma parklands and along the inner city bypass. Have to draw a mud map with all the turns!
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby landscapecadmonkey » Sun Aug 26, 2012 11:14 am

First magpie strike of the season for me. On the pathway, near the Swinburne St, Gordon Park entry about 10am this morning.

Vicious chap; thought a kid had thrown a rock at me. Havent had a seemingly flush temple strike before, only ear nips. A little bit of claret, but mainly a monster headache now.

He come out of the large tree near the bridge, and seems to only target those on the outer side of path closest to the tree.

There is a relatively wide section of grass near then bridge, so suggest giving that tree a very very wide birth.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby PawPaw » Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:31 pm

landscapecadmonkey wrote:First magpie strike of the season for me. On the pathway, near the Swinburne St, Gordon Park entry about 10am this morning


Might be the same one that was there last year. He had a very wide attack area. He'd attack for 75 or so metres either side of Swinburne turnoff, and all the way over onto Tindal St. Last year, he attacked me as I crossed to the northside of the creek and up onto Tindal St and along it for 80 odd metres. Hit me 3 times and kept trying to contact despite my hand waving. A Tindal St resident who saw it all said he was particularly aggressive and had been attacking walkers along their street consistently. I complained to BCC. They contacted me about 8 weeks later at the end of magpie season, to say there was nothing they could do because they are native fauna :roll: (I'd already asked them not to use that excuse, as salt water crocodiles, dingoes, snakes, and sharks are native, but relocated routinely.)
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby landscapecadmonkey » Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:27 pm

PawPaw wrote:Might be the same one that was there last year.

Yes... this one has got me more than once over the last few years.

Council have innumerable ideologically driven policies that aren't grounded in either science or logic.

I love this from their website
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While some native animals can have nuisance behaviours, such as swooping magpies and noisy crows, the benefits of living with wildlife outweigh the negative impacts.


Nuisance indeed. A swoop and a nip ok, but this one had more in mind..
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby ttp » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:35 am

landscapecadmonkey wrote:First magpie strike of the season for me. On the pathway, near the Swinburne St, Gordon Park entry about 10am this morning.


Thinkink about it I've passed that place twice on same day, around 9am and 11am on a way back - nothing happened. How about reporting it to Magpie Map, http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/magpiemap , it may warn others.

Got my first knock on the helmet yesterday in Shorncliffe. Very surprising on busy path full of people wondering around, the bird didn't like me for some reason.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:00 am

The Swinburne St magpie is very persistent. :(

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby PawPaw » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:23 am

There's another one directly adjacent to Boondall Train Station in the car park. No contact yet, but was swooping me pretty close. I've resorted to cutting through the Entertainment Centre to avoid him.

I've ridden up to Scarborough a few times in the last 2 weeks and not been bothered. Where's the one in Shorncliffe?
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby ZepinAtor » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:11 am

My partner received a nice hole near her temple (upper cheek) on Saturday from one of the more savage little peckers.

Blood down her face & a nice bruise from the impact. I should have taken a photo, but cleaned up the mess before I'd thought about it.

Not sure of the exact location, but it's the longish straight just after all the path works heading towards the ocean (East). Just after the duck feeding area.

On another note I was hissed at by a duck. He tried charging at me aero style:- head down, flat back just like a little duck torpedo. One word of advice ducky, bladed spokes are not good for your hair-do !
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Lukeyboy » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:32 am

Do you mean 4 or 5th Avenue in Sandgate which are the streets opposite the first small lagoon/Duck pond?

I was doing 40-50kph down Kirby Road in Aspley on my way back to Shorncliffe when I had a magpie swoop at me going past the leagues club there. Didn't know it at the time but laughed my ass off when I reviewed the GoPro footage and seeing this magpie line me up and swooping at me over and over while I was blissfully unaware and glancing at the gopro after every swoop (I thought it was the GoPro on the dropbar rattling from the crappy road surface haha).
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby ttp » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:20 pm

PawPaw wrote:There's another one directly adjacent to Boondall Train Station in the car park. No contact yet, but was swooping me pretty close. I've resorted to cutting through the Entertainment Centre to avoid him.

Can't understand those birds, passed there twice last Sunday and nothing. Will avoid in the future.
PawPaw wrote:I've ridden up to Scarborough a few times in the last 2 weeks and not been bothered. Where's the one in Shorncliffe?

My mistake, it's really Sandgate, Flinders Pde. between Arthur Davis Park and 7th Ave. Didn't expect anything with so many people and kids around on Sunday morning and I have passed same spot incident free an hour or so before.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby waynohh » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:59 pm

I haven't ridden all winter. Is it road bike safe yet or still need to take CX bike?
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Postby InTheWoods » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:04 pm

Max wrote:The Swinburne St magpie is very persistent. :(

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Hahaha saw that one today :) Fortunately there was a group of 6 slow riders coming the other way, and maggie was targeting them and ignored me as we crossed paths. Turned around to watch and she/he kept at them for a good distance!!
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby landscapecadmonkey » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:46 pm

ZepinAtor wrote:My partner received a nice hole near her temple (upper cheek) on Saturday from one of the more savage little peckers.

Blood down her face & a nice bruise from the impact. I should have taken a photo, but cleaned up the mess before I'd thought about it.

Not sure of the exact location, but it's the longish straight just after all the path works heading towards the ocean (East). Just after the duck feeding area.

On another note I was hissed at by a duck. He tried charging at me aero style:- head down, flat back just like a little duck torpedo. One word of advice ducky, bladed spokes are not good for your hair-do !

Sounds like the same one ...
waynohh wrote:I haven't ridden all winter. Is it road bike safe yet or still need to take CX bike?

ridden on 23mm tyres... bit of gravel, and grass.. but rideable.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:01 am

I did a quick Nudgee jaunt a couple days ago. On the way back, I was bailed up by a fellow cyclist coming the other way (ie he had just cycled the Swinburne St gauntlet). He said the bird had taken a piece out of his ear. I did see spots of blood on the path later on, so I don't doubt he was hurt by the bird. I ended up dismounting and walking for a while next to a lady with a pram. She said she was aware of a magpie in the nearby park, and that there were signs alerting people to its presence. It's a shame such a sign couldn't be placed near the bike path where cyclists are harassed by this magpie on a daily basis.

After a while, I saw another cyclist heading the opposite way and asked if he'd been attacked. He said no, so I got back on the bike and went my merry way. No bird strikes, but I have to say I was feeling very apprehensive.

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby beauyboy » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:02 pm

If this little b*gger is drawing blood has anyone complained to parks and wildlife (or what ever they are called now)
I am pretty sure if they case injury they can be removed.

I have found this on DERM (department of environment & resouse management) try saying that ten times fast :wink:
http://www.ehp.qld.gov.au/wildlife/livi ... 110915.pdf

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby ZepinAtor » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:10 pm

landscapecadmonkey wrote:
ZepinAtor wrote:On another note I was hissed at by a duck !

Sounds like the same one ...


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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby PawPaw » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:38 pm

I complained to the Brisbane City Council last year about this besterd.....see above.
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