Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:01 pm

Thanks Oxford... this thread delivers! :mrgreen:
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Hopefully I'll know what that's like..... one day. :shock: :lol:

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:09 pm

Well Max and I went for a ride along Kedron Brook this morning, in the rain :shock: We made it from the start right through to Nudgee Road. It was impassable at Gympie Road. We had to go over the bridge and around it. I wouldn't say it's impassable in general but it's generally quite yuk :o Apparently Max hax to ride over crank depth water at the bridge near Stafford City.

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As you can see it wouldn't take much more rain for it to break it's banks again.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby beauyboy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:51 am

I went for a ride with my otherhalf on Wednesday from Mitchelton to Shorncliffe and return. From Mitchy to Nudgee Road (the second Crossing) it was fine after that the place was still flooded. The wetlands were living up to there name and the Transfer station which sits on the old the that is/was there was leaking out oil and grease from the waste that is in the ground there. After climbing up the incline that looks out over to Nudgee Beach my other half had a slide on the grease when decending back down to Wetlands level.

The Wetlands are wet. We road through no less than 10 sections that were covered by deepish water ranging from a few meters long to one that was over 20 meters. This long one came up over the peddles which my other half hated as he was wearing shoes and I was wearing thongs :lol: . I have to say it was a day where I was exceedingly glad that I have mudguards fitted to my bike and my otherhalf exceedingly hated i could reasonly plough throught the water while he slowed to a crawl in a vain attempt not to get wet.

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# if you have mudguards try fitting them.

Also remember to hose down the bike when you get home as it will still be covered in salt even if you do have mudguards.

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:16 am

Thanks for the headsup, beauyboy! I'd been thinking about a ride out to Redcliffe, and my normal route is through the wetlands. It might be time to explore and find another way there :D

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Oxford » Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:39 am

I was considering riding out that way tomorrow and Sunday, but I think I'll riverloop instead and chance the drop kicks in the way, the MTB might be the go, its a bit more solid than the roadie.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby RepcoMonaco » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:40 pm

Max wrote:Thanks for the headsup, beauyboy! I'd been thinking about a ride out to Redcliffe, and my normal route is through the wetlands. It might be time to explore and find another way there :D

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Just take Sandgate road from Toombul to Deagon - it's actually rather nice and has a bike path or a wide shoulder along its whole length. Definitely nicer than slipping on a wet muddy bikepath (did that a few days ago too)
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:08 pm

The 'brook was about 6 inches from breaking the banks at the library turnoff on the way home tonight. :o
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:35 pm

The Grange library? Yeesh, that's not cool. Presumably there's lots of puddles? None too deep?

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Oxford » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:42 pm

Because that section goes under too often after rain like that which we had today, I don't go that way anymore, to much a PITA to back track around IMO. I prefer to exit the new bridge at Herston (mear Ballymore) to the left and then follow the rail line to Alderley and then reconnect with KBB through to Everton Park. Its also safer IMO and shorter by 1km.
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Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:59 pm

Oxford, I'd forgotten about the alderley option. Thanks for the reminder :)

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:19 pm

Max wrote:The Grange library? Yeesh, that's not cool. Presumably there's lots of puddles? None too deep?

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Not for someone with mudguards :mrgreen:


Oxford wrote:Because that section goes under too often after rain like that which we had today, I don't go that way anymore, to much a PITA to back track around IMO. I prefer to exit the new bridge at Herston (mear Ballymore) to the left and then follow the rail line to Alderley and then reconnect with KBB through to Everton Park. Its also safer IMO and shorter by 1km.


Good point. I took Max on that one morning and I use that way to get to kindy. I should try that way again.

Fortunately for me I only have to travel along there from the grange to Billabong St at Stafford. I only go the full track for me that goes in the back of Stafford City when it's been dry as that section gets very muddy.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:43 am

Comedian, was this roughly the route we took? Apart from the turnoff near Spencer Park (from memory we continued on to the normal turnoff near Noble St)? http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Al ... ey-Commute

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:31 am

Max wrote:Comedian, was this roughly the route we took? Apart from the turnoff near Spencer Park (from memory we continued on to the normal turnoff near Noble St)? http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Al ... ey-Commute

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Yes, only I tend to use Mina Parade instead of Murrel Street and the park. I also tend to use Aberleigh and Gould to get off Herston Road and onto the bikepath that leads to Spencer Park.

Essentially that is it :) It does have a few nice little hills but it's essentially dry. The downside for me is getting to the start at Alderley station involves either using A) Stafford City and the bikepath through to Royal parade, or B) Shand street. I find if I'm trying to avoid KBB due to water then opption A is out. Option B is fiddly to get along the start of Shand street after Stafford Road as there are lots of small roads if your on the footpath, or lots of cars racing each other to merge if you're on the road and trying to get to the start of the bikepath after Matthews St. Did that make sense?
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Oxford » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:36 am

Max, what Comedian said with a couple of variations, I continue on Hall Street and crossover Alderley Avenue, the roundabout at Alderley Avenue is IMO a bit hairy to turn right on. I also take Wilston Road to Newmarket Road, rather than the backstreets, they're a bit narrow and drivers tend not to look. The timing of the lights from Wilston along Newmarket to Baradine is pretty good. Stay on the bike path and avoid Herston for as long as possible, again it is narrow and a rat run, so IMO dangerous. As Comedian has said take the Gould Bridge and then Aberleigh to get to Herston Rd, its wider there. Also where do you catch the train from? This path indicates you going to the Valley, do you know you can take the pathway behind the grammar schools to Roma St Parkland and right to a Roma St platform entrance?
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:40 pm

Thanks for that, guys. Oxford, I probably wasn't clear - the route I posted isn't one of mine. It's one I found on Bikely and wanted to know if it was the one Comedian had guided me through many months ago. When I commute, I typically ride along Kedron Brook bikeway, down Kedron Brook Rd, then through Noble St to the bridge and up Gould St/Aberleigh St to Herston. Once on Herston Rd, I cross over at the golf course then ride through to Roma St. I catch the train from there to Oxley.

The rain has highlighted just how vulnerable the Kedron Brook path is to flooding. It's happened a few times recently, and I don't want it to be (yet another!) excuse for not commuting. The more familiar I become with alternative routes, the better I'll cope with unexpected detours and the like. Tomorrow, I'm going to find my way through the Alderley back streets and find a route I'm comfortable with to get into town. :D

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby MountGower » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:07 pm

Major flooding at Toombul, Nudgee today. Noticed at 1.30pm.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Oxford » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:08 pm

Sorry Max, I didn't realise it wasn't your route, no dramas. Also thought it would be weird getting the train at the Valley as they wouldn't let you on with the bike I would have thought. that should have triggered alarm bells for me. anyway, if you take this route, then no excuses in the rain, although I did notice the week before Xmas that this bridge had water lapping it when it must have been high tide.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby rhancock » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:47 pm

beauyboy wrote:I went for a ride with my otherhalf on Wednesday from Mitchelton to Shorncliffe and return. From Mitchy to Nudgee Road (the second Crossing) it was fine after that the place was still flooded. The wetlands were living up to there name and the Transfer station which sits on the old the that is/was there was leaking out oil and grease from the waste that is in the ground there. After climbing up the incline that looks out over to Nudgee Beach my other half had a slide on the grease when decending back down to Wetlands level.

The Wetlands are wet. We road through no less than 10 sections that were covered by deepish water ranging from a few meters long to one that was over 20 meters. This long one came up over the peddles which my other half hated as he was wearing shoes and I was wearing thongs :lol: . I have to say it was a day where I was exceedingly glad that I have mudguards fitted to my bike and my otherhalf exceedingly hated i could reasonly plough throught the water while he slowed to a crawl in a vain attempt not to get wet.

In short
# if you are riding it atm pack a spare pair of shoes
# be careful of grease leaking from the tip site
# if you have mudguards try fitting them.

Also remember to hose down the bike when you get home as it will still be covered in salt even if you do have mudguards.

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby lethoso » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:23 pm

http://veloroutes.org/r/62397

clearly this is the best way into the city from Alderly 8)

On a more serious note - it is annoying that most of the bikeways in Brisbane seem to be flood prone. It's like the council sat down one day to ponder the question "What can we do with this crappy flood-prone land that is more or less unsuitable for doing anything with?".
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:26 pm

lethoso wrote:http://veloroutes.org/r/62397

clearly this is the best way into the city from Alderly 8)

On a more serious note - it is annoying that most of the bikeways in Brisbane seem to be flood prone. It's like the council sat down one day to ponder the question "What can we do with this crappy flood-prone land that is more or less unsuitable for doing anything with?".

One day recently when I was trying to traverse the flooded Coronation Drive bikeway I told one of the traffic controllers that they should claim a lane for bikes when the bikeway is flooded. He was utterly horrified! I thought it was a good idea, and would be doable in non-peak times. :)
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:28 am

lethoso wrote:http://veloroutes.org/r/62397

clearly this is the best way into the city from Alderly 8)

On a more serious note - it is annoying that most of the bikeways in Brisbane seem to be flood prone. It's like the council sat down one day to ponder the question "What can we do with this crappy flood-prone land that is more or less unsuitable for doing anything with?".


:lol: :lol: :lol: Hey, is that crazy magpie still on Kelvin Grove Rd near the KFC?

I can just imagine the conversation during that council meeting:
Councillor Dude #1: Hey, those bikers really piss me off. I'm sick of them pissing and moaning about not having any infrastructure.
Councillor Dude #2: And I'm tired of them getting in my way when I'm driving somewhere. Don't they know I've got someplace to be?
CD #1: Eureka! I've got it! Let's give them exactly what they want!
CD #2: Huh?
CD #1: Yeh, let's give them some bikeways!
CD #2: Are you out of your mind?
CD #1: No, no, no, hear me out. We've got a heap of crappy, unused, low land that nobody in their right mind would want to build on. Let's throw some footpath-width bits of cement onto it and call it a bikeway!
CD #2: But that sounds really expensive...
CD #1: Yes, it's GENIUS! For a few million bucks, we can finally shut those cyclists up by showing the public, our electorate, that we care about cyclists. We'll spend a heap of money on it. It'll keep them out of your way when you're going places, it'll shut them up about not having any infrastructure and it'll make us look good.
CD #2: I like what I'm hearing!
CD #1: Plus, when they whinge about the cycling infrastructure being a lame duck, we'll be able to tell everyone how we spent all this money and they're still whinging! Everyone else will start hating them for being nothing but a pack of whingers, and they will finally, once and for all, be out of our hair.
CD #2: I think I'm in love with you.


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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Max » Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:53 pm

I just checked the BOM river heights site, and it looks like the Kedron Brook near Osborne Rd is at 32m and climbing, which puts it at "minor" flood level, whatever that really means. Has anyone ventured out onto the KBB this weekend?

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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Oxford » Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:41 pm

if Osborne is at 32m, then in my experience KBB from Stafford to The Grange (never checked beyond that) is pretty much cactus. that part of KBB takes all the Osborne flow plus the area surrounding it so odds are its stuffed. I always use the bridge crossing at Shand St to judge what it is like, if it is under water (and I have to use the old single lane pipe crossing) then KBB is absolutely going to be under water.
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby Comedian » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:26 pm

As long as it's not absolutely bucketing down tomorrow morning I'll report on the Grange section anyway. :shock:
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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Postby lethoso » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:25 pm

ít's well submerged, got to be near to the highest I've ever seen it. Only rideable if you have a pedal powered submarine.
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