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Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:51 am
by beauyboy
I went for a ride with my otherhalf on Wednesday from Mitchelton to Shorncliffe and return. From Mitchy to Nudgee Road (the second Crossing) it was fine after that the place was still flooded. The wetlands were living up to there name and the Transfer station which sits on the old the that is/was there was leaking out oil and grease from the waste that is in the ground there. After climbing up the incline that looks out over to Nudgee Beach my other half had a slide on the grease when decending back down to Wetlands level.

The Wetlands are wet. We road through no less than 10 sections that were covered by deepish water ranging from a few meters long to one that was over 20 meters. This long one came up over the peddles which my other half hated as he was wearing shoes and I was wearing thongs :lol: . I have to say it was a day where I was exceedingly glad that I have mudguards fitted to my bike and my otherhalf exceedingly hated i could reasonly plough throught the water while he slowed to a crawl in a vain attempt not to get wet.

In short
# if you are riding it atm pack a spare pair of shoes
# be careful of grease leaking from the tip site
# if you have mudguards try fitting them.

Also remember to hose down the bike when you get home as it will still be covered in salt even if you do have mudguards.

Donald

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:16 pm
by Max
Thanks for the headsup, beauyboy! I'd been thinking about a ride out to Redcliffe, and my normal route is through the wetlands. It might be time to explore and find another way there :D

Max

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:40 pm
by RepcoMonaco
Max wrote:Thanks for the headsup, beauyboy! I'd been thinking about a ride out to Redcliffe, and my normal route is through the wetlands. It might be time to explore and find another way there :D

Max
Just take Sandgate road from Toombul to Deagon - it's actually rather nice and has a bike path or a wide shoulder along its whole length. Definitely nicer than slipping on a wet muddy bikepath (did that a few days ago too)

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:08 pm
by Comedian
The 'brook was about 6 inches from breaking the banks at the library turnoff on the way home tonight. :o

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:35 pm
by Max
The Grange library? Yeesh, that's not cool. Presumably there's lots of puddles? None too deep?

Max

Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:59 pm
by Max
Oxford, I'd forgotten about the alderley option. Thanks for the reminder :)

Max

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:19 pm
by Comedian
Max wrote:The Grange library? Yeesh, that's not cool. Presumably there's lots of puddles? None too deep?

Max
Not for someone with mudguards :mrgreen:

Oxford wrote:Because that section goes under too often after rain like that which we had today, I don't go that way anymore, to much a PITA to back track around IMO. I prefer to exit the new bridge at Herston (mear Ballymore) to the left and then follow the rail line to Alderley and then reconnect with KBB through to Everton Park. Its also safer IMO and shorter by 1km.
Good point. I took Max on that one morning and I use that way to get to kindy. I should try that way again.

Fortunately for me I only have to travel along there from the grange to Billabong St at Stafford. I only go the full track for me that goes in the back of Stafford City when it's been dry as that section gets very muddy.

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:43 am
by Max
Comedian, was this roughly the route we took? Apart from the turnoff near Spencer Park (from memory we continued on to the normal turnoff near Noble St)? http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Al ... ey-Commute

Max

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:31 am
by Comedian
Max wrote:Comedian, was this roughly the route we took? Apart from the turnoff near Spencer Park (from memory we continued on to the normal turnoff near Noble St)? http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Al ... ey-Commute

Max
Yes, only I tend to use Mina Parade instead of Murrel Street and the park. I also tend to use Aberleigh and Gould to get off Herston Road and onto the bikepath that leads to Spencer Park.

Essentially that is it :) It does have a few nice little hills but it's essentially dry. The downside for me is getting to the start at Alderley station involves either using A) Stafford City and the bikepath through to Royal parade, or B) Shand street. I find if I'm trying to avoid KBB due to water then opption A is out. Option B is fiddly to get along the start of Shand street after Stafford Road as there are lots of small roads if your on the footpath, or lots of cars racing each other to merge if you're on the road and trying to get to the start of the bikepath after Matthews St. Did that make sense?

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:40 pm
by Max
Thanks for that, guys. Oxford, I probably wasn't clear - the route I posted isn't one of mine. It's one I found on Bikely and wanted to know if it was the one Comedian had guided me through many months ago. When I commute, I typically ride along Kedron Brook bikeway, down Kedron Brook Rd, then through Noble St to the bridge and up Gould St/Aberleigh St to Herston. Once on Herston Rd, I cross over at the golf course then ride through to Roma St. I catch the train from there to Oxley.

The rain has highlighted just how vulnerable the Kedron Brook path is to flooding. It's happened a few times recently, and I don't want it to be (yet another!) excuse for not commuting. The more familiar I become with alternative routes, the better I'll cope with unexpected detours and the like. Tomorrow, I'm going to find my way through the Alderley back streets and find a route I'm comfortable with to get into town. :D

Max

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:07 pm
by MountGower
Major flooding at Toombul, Nudgee today. Noticed at 1.30pm.

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:47 pm
by rhancock
beauyboy wrote:I went for a ride with my otherhalf on Wednesday from Mitchelton to Shorncliffe and return. From Mitchy to Nudgee Road (the second Crossing) it was fine after that the place was still flooded. The wetlands were living up to there name and the Transfer station which sits on the old the that is/was there was leaking out oil and grease from the waste that is in the ground there. After climbing up the incline that looks out over to Nudgee Beach my other half had a slide on the grease when decending back down to Wetlands level.

The Wetlands are wet. We road through no less than 10 sections that were covered by deepish water ranging from a few meters long to one that was over 20 meters. This long one came up over the peddles which my other half hated as he was wearing shoes and I was wearing thongs :lol: . I have to say it was a day where I was exceedingly glad that I have mudguards fitted to my bike and my otherhalf exceedingly hated i could reasonly plough throught the water while he slowed to a crawl in a vain attempt not to get wet.

In short
# if you are riding it atm pack a spare pair of shoes
# be careful of grease leaking from the tip site
# if you have mudguards try fitting them.

Also remember to hose down the bike when you get home as it will still be covered in salt even if you do have mudguards.

Donald
Hey, there shouldn't be anything leaking out of the waste! If there is, report it to BCC on 3403 8888.

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:23 pm
by lethoso
http://veloroutes.org/r/62397

clearly this is the best way into the city from Alderly 8)

On a more serious note - it is annoying that most of the bikeways in Brisbane seem to be flood prone. It's like the council sat down one day to ponder the question "What can we do with this crappy flood-prone land that is more or less unsuitable for doing anything with?".

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:26 pm
by Comedian
lethoso wrote:http://veloroutes.org/r/62397

clearly this is the best way into the city from Alderly 8)

On a more serious note - it is annoying that most of the bikeways in Brisbane seem to be flood prone. It's like the council sat down one day to ponder the question "What can we do with this crappy flood-prone land that is more or less unsuitable for doing anything with?".
One day recently when I was trying to traverse the flooded Coronation Drive bikeway I told one of the traffic controllers that they should claim a lane for bikes when the bikeway is flooded. He was utterly horrified! I thought it was a good idea, and would be doable in non-peak times. :)

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:28 am
by Max
lethoso wrote:http://veloroutes.org/r/62397

clearly this is the best way into the city from Alderly 8)

On a more serious note - it is annoying that most of the bikeways in Brisbane seem to be flood prone. It's like the council sat down one day to ponder the question "What can we do with this crappy flood-prone land that is more or less unsuitable for doing anything with?".
:lol: :lol: :lol: Hey, is that crazy magpie still on Kelvin Grove Rd near the KFC?

I can just imagine the conversation during that council meeting:
Councillor Dude #1: Hey, those bikers really piss me off. I'm sick of them pissing and moaning about not having any infrastructure.
Councillor Dude #2: And I'm tired of them getting in my way when I'm driving somewhere. Don't they know I've got someplace to be?
CD #1: Eureka! I've got it! Let's give them exactly what they want!
CD #2: Huh?
CD #1: Yeh, let's give them some bikeways!
CD #2: Are you out of your mind?
CD #1: No, no, no, hear me out. We've got a heap of crappy, unused, low land that nobody in their right mind would want to build on. Let's throw some footpath-width bits of cement onto it and call it a bikeway!
CD #2: But that sounds really expensive...
CD #1: Yes, it's GENIUS! For a few million bucks, we can finally shut those cyclists up by showing the public, our electorate, that we care about cyclists. We'll spend a heap of money on it. It'll keep them out of your way when you're going places, it'll shut them up about not having any infrastructure and it'll make us look good.
CD #2: I like what I'm hearing!
CD #1: Plus, when they whinge about the cycling infrastructure being a lame duck, we'll be able to tell everyone how we spent all this money and they're still whinging! Everyone else will start hating them for being nothing but a pack of whingers, and they will finally, once and for all, be out of our hair.
CD #2: I think I'm in love with you.


:mrgreen:
Max

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:53 pm
by Max
I just checked the BOM river heights site, and it looks like the Kedron Brook near Osborne Rd is at 32m and climbing, which puts it at "minor" flood level, whatever that really means. Has anyone ventured out onto the KBB this weekend?

Max

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:26 pm
by Comedian
As long as it's not absolutely bucketing down tomorrow morning I'll report on the Grange section anyway. :shock:

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:25 am
by lethoso
ít's well submerged, got to be near to the highest I've ever seen it. Only rideable if you have a pedal powered submarine.

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:19 pm
by BruceGray
Just came across this thread. I am a KBB-ophile. Walk the dog along it most mornings from Shaw Rd - up to Gympie Rd and/0r down to Toombul train bridge. Coffee at Idea on Shaw Rd 80m south of the KBB.

Shaw Rd was covered yesterday arvo but all good now.
Drove down to the Nundah Criterium track around 10am this morning and there were adequate dry bits all around.
Schultz's canal was right down, so didn't expect the Crit to suffer at high tide at 2pm today.
The bike path probably will though.

Someone asked earlier about linking Nudgee path to Gateway Bridge. Bikely haven't updated their maps yet, so if you can follow this: (Crit to Gateway)

From the Crit
- upstream to Melton Rd and head south under airtrain.
- left at roundabout into Gellibrand
- right into Zillman
- left into Manson
- right into Nudgee Rd
- left into Lamington Ave. continue along under the Gateway overpasses.
- just before the 2nd overpass, take the bike path that branches to the left, heading north alongside the overbridge. The bridge carries Schneider Road.
- travel north on the path until it terminates on Schneider Rd (~200metres). Get onto Schneider Rd and head SOUTH.
- turn left into Kingsford Smith Rd and travel along and cross to south side sometime before Gateway Motorway overpasses.
- just before the Gateway Motorway overpasses, there is a bike path heading south. turn right onto that and follow it through to Cullen Avenue east, and cross that road.
- Go under the Gateway overpasses, and immediately turn right and you'll then be on the Gateway Bridge bike path.

This map might help....follow the blue lines.
http://users.on.net/~thefirstbruce/nort ... access.jpg

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:00 pm
by brades68
Did the ride with Comedian on Thursday afternoon/evening. Thanks heaps again for the tour. You lot in Brisbane are lucky to have such infrastructure to 'play' with, i can see why it's a popular ride, great scenery, more toads than ninjas (but only just) and tradie bogan free! Was only a little water in places and pretty shallow, a bit on one corner of the crit track - yep had to have a couple of laps on it.
I'll be back on it again

Cheers
Mick

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:40 pm
by Comedian
brades68 wrote:Did the ride with Comedian on Thursday afternoon/evening. Thanks heaps again for the tour. You lot in Brisbane are lucky to have such infrastructure to 'play' with, i can see why it's a popular ride, great scenery, more toads than ninjas (but only just) and tradie bogan free! Was only a little water in places and pretty shallow, a bit on one corner of the crit track - yep had to have a couple of laps on it.
I'll be back on it again

Cheers
Mick
Was a pleasure mate. :)

I rode it to Toombul this morning and there is really only a couple of slightly wet spots, with the worst being near the library. We've got fine weather forecast all week (!!), and if it stays that way it might actually be completely dry.. that would be the first time I can remember it being like that in months!

I'm reluctant to say this... but I might even clean the bike. Normally this causes torrential rain, but in this case it will be a tussle between my clean bike and Maxs' mudguards in the rain gods head. :mrgreen:

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:06 am
by Max
But Comedian, I just cleaned my bike too!!!! Perhaps I should pack a brolly for today's ride then. :lol:

Max

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:48 am
by MountGower
G'day

Can anyone tell me if the bikepath is still cut under Lutwyche Rd?

if it's still disconnected,

What is your prefered detour ?

Is there any word on it's reconnection?

Cheers.

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:41 am
by ZepinAtor
MountGower wrote:G'day

Can anyone tell me if the bikepath is still cut under Lutwyche Rd?

if it's still disconnected,

What is your prefered detour ?

Is there any word on it's reconnection?

Cheers.
Went through there on Saturday. All clear.

Re: Kedron Brook Bikeway to the sea conditions report

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:00 pm
by MountGower
Thanks very much. I'm just looking to pack out my commute, but the time delay was significant last time. This was quite probably due to my lack of knowlege regarding the way around.