I was on the radio last night

I was on the radio last night

Postby SeditionTrial » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:56 pm

Yes, so there was this invited guest on 612 ABC local radio in Brisbane last night, he called himself the president of the Pedestrian Council of Australia, I think, and he was banging on about how Qld should ban cyclists from footpaths, and how ringing your bell behind a pedestrian is equivalent to assault, and many other stupidities, and it made my blood boil, so I caved in and called the station.

On air I basically said that I thought cyclists should be allowed on the footpath, given that little kids aren't safe on the roads, and on many Qld roads, no cyclist is safe (due to narrow shoulders). I know most people on this board are of a similar mindset, so I am preaching to the converted, but it really annoys me that these cranks are given airplay.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby RobertFrith » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:39 pm

That'd be Harold Scruby. I've never heard the man speak or see anything that he's written but it should be pointed out that he's as unpopular on 4WD and bogan performance vehicle forums as he is here.

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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby rkelsen » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:51 am

:lol: at Google results!
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby dfc. » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:20 am

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensl ... 1bpej.html

I don't agree with banning cyclists from footpaths,as I use them a lot, and it will just cause more accidents, but at least they were catching the idiots that don't use, or don't have a bell
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby Oxford » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:24 pm

Channel 7 are running a Cyclist Vs Motorist piece on the news on Monday night. I am hoping the edit will be good as the editor is a friend and cyclist I know. So hopefully if it is a little more positive and it will balance out the dumb karma of Scruby.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby foo on patrol » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:33 pm

To put it politely, Scruby is a stupid blithering old fool, that is given too much air time, for his one sided ramblings and views of what should be, rather than how, too make safe conditions for both pedestrians and cyclists. :roll: (twit)
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby marinmomma » Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:24 am

Re bells on bikes....what is the point when most ped's have their ears plugged up with music blasting from an IPod....you can ring all you like but they don't hear you!

And ped's walking on a dedicated cycle path :evil: or peds/joggers running two abreast and hogging up the path and getting ticked off if you want to pass them :evil:

I'd rather take my chances on the roads!
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby dfc. » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:54 am

marinmomma wrote:Re bells on bikes....what is the point when most ped's have their ears plugged up with music blasting from an IPod....you can ring all you like but they don't hear you!

And ped's walking on a dedicated cycle path :evil: or peds/joggers running two abreast and hogging up the path and getting ticked off if you want to pass them :evil:

I'd rather take my chances on the roads!


Yes I hat that aswell, I had a lof of that this moring, but I was meaning fellow cyclists who don't give you any warning when passing, and push you off the path!
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby Mulger bill » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:44 am

marinmomma wrote:And ped's walking on a dedicated cycle path :evil:


Fear not, evolution will have those paths downgraded to shared use soon. A few pen strokes is easier and cheaper than enforcement. :roll:
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby marinmomma » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:30 pm

Mulger bill wrote:
marinmomma wrote:And ped's walking on a dedicated cycle path :evil:


Fear not, evolution will have those paths downgraded to shared use soon. A few pen strokes is easier and cheaper than enforcement. :roll:



It'd be a shame to lose them though, especially in higher traffic areas.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby lethoso » Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:10 pm

dfc. wrote:Yes I hat that aswell, I had a lof of that this moring, but I was meaning fellow cyclists who don't give you any warning when passing, and push you off the path!


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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby elantra » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:23 am

lethoso wrote:
dfc. wrote:Yes I hat that aswell, I had a lof of that this moring, but I was meaning fellow cyclists who don't give you any warning when passing, and push you off the path!


ride in a straight line, problem solved.


But what about corners, potholes, encroaching vegetation and parked cars ?
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby waynohh » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:05 pm

Oxford wrote:Channel 7 are running a Cyclist Vs Motorist piece on the news on Monday night. I am hoping the edit will be good as the editor is a friend and cyclist I know. So hopefully if it is a little more positive and it will balance out the dumb karma of Scruby.


They used a lot of my videos, unfortunately they used ones I didn't give them permission to, and then cut them down so they're out of context. But, they also used some scary ones too.
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I was on the radio last night

Postby herzog » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:18 pm

marinmomma wrote:
peds/joggers running two abreast and hogging up the path



Bit of a double standard don't you think? We are allowed to ride 2 abreast, so why get pissy if people want to walk 2 abreast?

No better than the car drivers that honk at cyclists simply going about their business.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby lethoso » Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:15 pm

herzog wrote:Bit of a double standard don't you think? We are allowed to ride 2 abreast, so why get pissy if people want to walk 2 abreast?


shared paths are considerably narrower than the road though, I can't think of any in brisbane which would comfortably fit two pairs of riders side by side going in opposite directions. Still, joggers are usually ok, it's when you get two prams next to each other that it's a bit ridiculous :roll:

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dfc. wrote:Yes I hat that aswell, I had a lof of that this moring, but I was meaning fellow cyclists who don't give you any warning when passing, and push you off the path!


ride in a straight line, problem solved.


But what about corners, potholes, encroaching vegetation and parked cars ?


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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby Oxford » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:13 pm

waynohh wrote:
Oxford wrote:Channel 7 are running a Cyclist Vs Motorist piece on the news on Monday night. I am hoping the edit will be good as the editor is a friend and cyclist I know. So hopefully if it is a little more positive and it will balance out the dumb karma of Scruby.


They used a lot of my videos, unfortunately they used ones I didn't give them permission to, and then cut them down so they're out of context. But, they also used some scary ones too.

if they are from YouTube, have you selected the options advising they are not to be used? they used one of mine (plus the interview), not unhappy though, if drivers think that cyclists have cameras and they do not do something stupid as a result then it has to be good.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby waynohh » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:56 am

They emailed me and asked me to upload some using their useless uploader which wouldn't accept any encoding i tried, so I gave them a list of videos they could use instead, which they basically ignored. Do people still watch tv anyway? I don't.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby Oxford » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:45 am

waynohh wrote:They emailed me and asked me to upload some using their useless uploader which wouldn't accept any encoding i tried, so I gave them a list of videos they could use instead, which they basically ignored. Do people still watch tv anyway? I don't.

I only watched the news last night because the family wanted to see me in the story, first time in I have no idea how long.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby marinmomma » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:10 pm

herzog wrote:
marinmomma wrote:
peds/joggers running two abreast and hogging up the path



Bit of a double standard don't you think? We are allowed to ride 2 abreast, so why get pissy if people want to walk 2 abreast?

No better than the car drivers that honk at cyclists simply going about their business.


Most shared paths aren't wide enough for two cyclists to ride 2 abreast, but my point was that joggers/peds do run two abreast and then get sh*tty with a cyclist who wants to get around them.

Some common sense from ALL path users is required.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby SeditionTrial » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:11 pm

Yes, consideration and safety are the key issues. Being a pompous wind-bag, or aggro car/ bike psycho the main problem.
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby marinmomma » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:08 am

SeditionTrial wrote:Yes, consideration and safety are the key issues. Being a pompous wind-bag, or aggro car/ bike psycho the main problem.



+1...it's always the small percentage of people who do the wrong thing that ruin it for the majority that are doing the right thing!
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby Gabe » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:24 am

marinmomma wrote:+1...it's always the small percentage of people who do the wrong thing that ruin it for the majority that are doing the right thing!


I'm gonna be a sad sack of crap and say that in australia this is not the case. The amount of incredibly inconsiderate behaviour I see every single day in all forms of traffic is just plain ridiculous, most times they are things you could not get away with in europe without getting rightfully harrassed by others or even pulled up by the police. The problem is that we follow US culture more than any other, and it basically just promotes self-righteousness and self-centered thinking, and combine that with abysmal driver training and people never learn how to negotiate traffic effectively, be it on the footpath or the road.
I think the only way things can change for the better is to really promote awareness of your surroundings and thinking about things from the perspective of others, so watching for traffic moving faster or slower than yourself and ensuring that the flow is not interrupted and safety margins are kept at a maximum. A proper standardised driver training course like they have in many european countries would be fantastic start
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby elantra » Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:29 am

Gabe wrote:
marinmomma wrote:+1...it's always the small percentage of people who do the wrong thing that ruin it for the majority that are doing the right thing!


I'm gonna be a sad sack of crap and say that in australia this is not the case. The amount of incredibly inconsiderate behaviour I see every single day in all forms of traffic is just plain ridiculous, most times they are things you could not get away with in europe without getting rightfully harrassed by others or even pulled up by the police. The problem is that we follow US culture more than any other, and it basically just promotes self-righteousness and self-centered thinking, and combine that with abysmal driver training and people never learn how to negotiate traffic effectively, be it on the footpath or the road.
I think the only way things can change for the better is to really promote awareness of your surroundings and thinking about things from the perspective of others, so watching for traffic moving faster or slower than yourself and ensuring that the flow is not interrupted and safety margins are kept at a maximum. A proper standardised driver training course like they have in many european countries would be fantastic start

I agree with you.
The standard of road behaviour is declining IMO
There are lots of sociopaths in charge of motor vehicles, they are the ones who go out of their way to give you a "close shave"
They are taking out all of their life's frustrations on you, the (mostly) innocent "bystander"
Then there are various other categories of poor driving, have you noticed how many motorist fail to use their indicators. etc.
Driver training must be a joke, have you noticed how the P Platers speed and weave all over the road, sometimes in convoy.

Even on the bikepaths thare are problems, some cyclists ride like there is no tomorrow.
Must be time to go and have a chat with the local MP, and ask him where all the cops are hiding. :shock:
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Re: I was on the radio last night

Postby waynohh » Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:39 pm

Today I was passed by 2 cars on my right inside the bike lane, then 1 on the left, then a bus cut in front of me which I couldn't brake hard enough to avoid, then they drove off of course without any concern. I'm either going to snap and rip someone's head off one day or give up, that's if I'm not killed.
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