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Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:25 am
by Dan
redrover3 wrote:
Walmart
Ah, so they're chain store Benottos.
Tony
Nah, that's the name of the restaurant in the middle, between outdoors and audio visual.... o_O

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:51 pm
by Wal42
Dan wrote:
redrover3 wrote:
Walmart
Ah, so they're chain store Benottos.
Tony
Nah, that's the name of the restaurant in the middle, between outdoors and audio visual.... o_O


Na, you can find the Benotto's in isle 3 in between the farkyourbriftershite & stickurstravaupyabutt, past all the toy carbon bikes.


Bet this one will P all the serious 'cyclists' off. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Oh, standard riverloop this Raturday :?:

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:17 pm
by Wal42
Ok, I'll be at Browning St West End by 6am, standard Raturday Riverloop, be departing at 6.15am.

Anyone else wants to come, feel free, if not I'll just ride on my own, no problemo's.


Final news, I've emailed my seller in Spain, virtually going to give him an ultimatum, either send the damn bike or refund the money, hopefully he refunds the cash & I'll be buying the other Benotto, this is now my preference, I really don't want the Razesa, I'd rather just have a 2nd Benotto.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:17 pm
by munga
and then there were two.

i'm in. bringing the shogie bear out for another raturday riverloop, mainly because i have packed everything else away until after the new year.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:27 am
by vaeske
Frankie wants to come out and play. :)

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:01 am
by redrover3
I can't come but should be good for the following raturday. I'm on school holidays now so if anyone is doing a monday-friday ride, I would be interested.
Tony

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:17 pm
by Wal42
The latest email from Espana is that the frame is on it's way.


So, I still want this other Benotto frame, therefore something has to go, so if anyone is interested in my (ex-munga's) Repco Superlite frame or a Razesa then I'll be happy to negotiate. I don't want to go out buying yet another gruppo & I really have to start putting a cap on the amount of bikes I have here.


There has been photos published of the Superlite but I can put more up or show the bike in the flesh to anybody interested, both will be frames, headset & forks, the Razesa has a fairly worn Zeus seatpost & allegedly a 'new' quill stem, I'll know more once the bike lobs here.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:28 am
by Wal42
Well I guess the Razesa is on it's way.

The latest email from last night-----


buenas amigo ya le envie el cuadro, le pido mil disculpas por como a ido todo , por eso le e regalado accesorios como pedales automaticos , botellero y palancas de cambio para cuadro , de verdad que acepte mis disculpas

le mando numero de seguimiento



Translated---


good friend and I sent the box, I ask as to apologize for everything gone, so he and gifted accessories like clipless pedals, bottle and box shifters for, really accept my apologies

I send tracking number


So I guess that I'll have some other stuff to shift, I'm still looking at selling atleast 1 bike off, I guess it'll be either the Superlite or if anyone wants a Repco Vantage touring bike, the vantage is a runner, it's my spare commute bike, recently had the bb replaced, so it's been a resto job except for paint, rides just like you would expect a touring bike to.


I'll work out whether I want to sell the Razesa when it arrives, unless someone out the just has to have this piece of Spanish cycling. Razesa evidently built the frame for Zeus, so we're not talking some lame low end backyard builder here, these guys had/have some serious pedigree.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:44 pm
by Wal42
Video's from today's Retro Riverloop Raturday ride-


Having some minor issues with you tube at present, I'll link the rest once they've loaded.


Video #1 http://youtu.be/d-AX-HHBM9A" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Video #2 http://youtu.be/JFduEaz1Rks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Video #3 http://youtu.be/nTve-Sx1lQA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Video #4 http://youtu.be/Qkgo-rXj6p8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Video #5 http://youtu.be/eiG8C8kkXso" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


All up & running now, enjoy.


And I'll see you next week for our 2nd last Raturday for 2012.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:23 pm
by Wazza
So do tell me about this morning's little jaunt! While you were out riding I was rearranging Geoff a little. :wink:
Waz

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:14 pm
by munga
it's all a haze. not sure if we were sinking the boot in a bit today or if i was just being a slacker..

strava tells me to eat more concrete.



i sat up the back on the shogie bear chatting to whomever felt sorry for me.
retroman came up from tweed heads with his newly restored gitane with superbe/superbe pro/record. looks gorgeous mate, and we hope you'll be along for another ride soon.
funnybike fronted with a modern steelie - can't remember which brand (had frogs on it).
elantra and the doublex
wal on his vertex
zynster dropped in post-ride on his groovy old workhorse.

i was the only one rocking brifters today, and i didn't feel bad for a second.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:28 am
by vaeske
munga wrote:it's all a haze. not sure if we were sinking the boot in a bit today or if i was just being a slacker..

strava tells me to eat more concrete.



i sat up the back on the shogie bear chatting to whomever felt sorry for me.
retroman came up from tweed heads with his newly restored gitane with superbe/superbe pro/record. looks gorgeous mate, and we hope you'll be along for another ride soon.
funnybike fronted with a modern steelie - can't remember which brand (had frogs on it).
elantra and the doublex
wal on his vertex
zynster dropped in post-ride on his groovy old workhorse.

i was the only one rocking brifters today, and i didn't feel bad for a second.
spoken like a true champion...you should send the jersey design to wal so he can get that printed.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:44 am
by Wal42
vaeske wrote:
munga wrote:it's all a haze. not sure if we were sinking the boot in a bit today or if i was just being a slacker..

strava tells me to eat more concrete.
spoken like a true champion...you should send the jersey design to wal so he can get that printed.



I RODE A RETRO
RIVERLOOP RATURDAY
& IT'S ALL A HAZE!
2013

And f*ck your brifter shite, we're real men.


Hey I like it, it has a certain silliness to it & that seems to be the whole focus of our rides. Maximum siiliness.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:13 pm
by uncle arthur
I fitted my retro Repco with briftershite, so I guess I won't ever be riding Retro Raturday.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:23 pm
by munga
i've only been brifterless once, and i don't think i've ever been unwelcome.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 7:24 pm
by uncle arthur
munga wrote:i've only been brifterless once, and i don't think i've ever been unwelcome.
Yeah - but you started this crazy Saturday morning shenanigans :mrgreen:

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:02 pm
by Wal42
It's a personal preference thing, I personally don't think that you should spoil a nice retro bike by fitting brifters, I've proved that you can run very modern D/T shifting, I have one bike that's 9 speed D/T, the next one will be 10 speed D/T.

So how much disadvantage am I at by running D/T shifting? Maybe a couple of seconds over 10kms, for the sake of classic looks, I'm prepared to live with that.


Just because you choose to run brifters doesn't mean you're not welcome, we've had modern bikes on the ride, in fact I've ridden my single speed track bike & it's a 2010 model.


That's the first rule of the Raturday ride, there ain't no rules.


What you do with your bike is up to you, my attitude about brifters on retro bike is my opinion, I'm entitled to that, if your opinion is different to mine, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinion & I'll defend your right to have that opinion, your opinion is right to you & that is all that matters, my opinion is right to me & I'm comfortable with that. That's what makes the world an interesting place, we're all just that little bit different from each other.


Oh & no matter what you hear, I'm really not a nice person, anyone that tells you that is either misguided or telling ya fibbies.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:29 pm
by munga
strewth, who said you were nice? 8)

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:34 pm
by rkelsen
Wal42 wrote:I have one bike that's 9 speed D/T, the next one will be 10 speed D/T.
*cough* Real men don't need indexing.

Hi! 8)

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:46 pm
by Wal42
rkelsen wrote:
Wal42 wrote:I have one bike that's 9 speed D/T, the next one will be 10 speed D/T.
*cough* Real men don't need indexing.

Hi! 8)

Yeah I know, I'm getting soft :shock: , changing from 8 speed friction to 9 speed indexed, think I'm hanging around munga & Dan too much (they're real sissies, they run f...f...f....f....brifters :wink: ), I did have all intention to run it friction, but the Dura Ace stuff runs so nice that it's just that easy to run it indexed, the Benny is going to be 10 speed friction, the Superbe Pro gruppo I have here is friction, now that could go on the Superlite, the Razesa or I really think I need that Benny Cadre frame I've been offered, then I still have the Campy Triomphe gruppo, that's also friction. :P


See I'm not getting that soft (hey leave out, I'm 50 very soon, ain't I allowed to get a little soft in me old age :lol: ).

Hang about munga, I think you spread that rumour, ya farkin' big liar. [runs around singin' "liar, liar, pants on fire"]

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:17 am
by munga
mike, i think what wal's trying to say is that you're welcome to come along no matter what your drivetrain preference.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:52 am
by rkelsen
Wal42 wrote:Yeah I know, I'm getting soft :shock: , changing from 8 speed friction to 9 speed indexed
Accepting indexed shifting is the first step. :lol:

It's a slippery slope... Especially once you discover the engineering marvel that is the Ergopower.

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:59 am
by vaeske
rkelsen wrote:
Wal42 wrote:Yeah I know, I'm getting soft :shock: , changing from 8 speed friction to 9 speed indexed
Accepting indexed shifting is the first step. :lol:

It's a slippery slope... Especially once you discover the engineering marvel that is the Ergopower.
me likes indexed shifting, but me likes ergopower more....mmm goodness. might have to sell the DA7700 group and go all campy. :/

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:33 pm
by Wal42
Campy brifters?

Obi Won Kenobi once told me "beware of the dark side young jedi, the call of the dark side is strong but you must resist", then I actually saw how 'reliable' campy brifter systems are, Ben you wasted your breath warning me, late model campy, na I'd rather stick red hot needles into my eyeballs. Oh, before you all jump up & down, shaking fists, swearing, sticking needles into vodoo doll likeness' of moi , the sram crankset I've fitted to the Verty is as close as I'll ever get to running any late model sram road gear on any of my bikes, as they have a great level of 'reliability' too.


Shim stuff is ok (yep except for the issues that the 7900 gruppo's have), but riding with any brifters is just plain boring, it doesn't interest me.


So slippery slope, yep, there's a bloke in the US that modifies the 7700 D/T shifters to 10 speed, so there's a possibility that somewhere down the track, I build something with DA 10 speed D/T shifting.

Also would like to get hold of (borrow/steal, buy really cheap) a shim Di2 (Ui2 even) gruppo, I'm thinking of swapping out the brifters & fitting micro switches under/over a set of D/T shifters, so it would be electric D/T shifting, that will have to wait until people start upgrading the current system & the price drops heaps (farking expensive exercise if it don't work).

Re: Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:24 pm
by munga
anti-this, anti-that.. for a bloke with no rules, you've got a lot of rules, wal.. 8)

i love brifters so much i put them on my single-speed.