Retro Riverloop Raturdays :D

[elantra]

Yeah I know, some of you like brifter shift, I'm just pointing out that if you're running brifter shift (or should that be shite ) because you think it'll be faster, then it's the engine (you) not the transmission (the bike) that'll make the biggest difference. Plus D/T shifting is easier to maintain, has less breakage issues (remember all them little pawls & springs inside a brifter lever), D/T shifting if it's indexed & has issues, you can switch to friction. And the biggest upside to D/T shifting, it makes your bike 'look' retro (oh did I mention I like bicycles & porn, sometimes the line between them gets blurred, nice retro bike, nice D/T shifter set, hmmmm getting a bit of 'boing' in my loins ) & people do notice.

Anyway enough of my preaching from the soapbox, hopefully my ride will be loaded up onto you tube within the next few hours (providing 9oo9le don't screw me around), not that you'd be interested, just the view from my helmet as I roar past (well a few times on the flat anyway) a lot of modern briftered bikes.

I like my DT shifters too, they seem more connected with the bike.
But i am thankful for brifter on my other bike when you are halfway up hill somewhere in wup-wup and it becomes obvious that you need to drop a few ratios under load...
And i agree some modern bikes are just plain ugly.
That must be why i took so many photos of Ladies on retro-bikes when i was in Europe ?

[munga]

That must be why i took so many photos of Ladies on retro-bikes when i was in Europe ?

yeah steve, that's why.

[Dan]

And i agree some modern bikes are just plain ugly.

Case in point.

[ldrcycles]

I just bought one of those a few weeks ago . I like it, damn sight better looking than a Cervelo S5 or one of those Colnagos or Casatis with the silly holes in random places.

[Wal42]

I wouldn't say ugly (hey I bet that surprised the shite out of ya all), just plain, it looks like every other modern bike out there, nothing special about it.

There's no 'soul', it's just a bicycle, that's why I don't ride my Postal Service Team bike, it goes quick but it's just boring.

They're designed to make bad cyclists better, there's not much there for better riders, even the really top end stuff doesn't make much difference anymore.

[ldrcycles]

Well it's not a huge improvement over my Scott, but it is better. Compared to the 12+kg steel bikes though?

That's if it's about going fast though, and that isn't always the aim.

[Wal42]

Got home from this mornings ride just in time to watch an auction end, I now have a set of Shim 600 tri-colour derailleurs coming from Israel, not pretty NOS ones, they're 'lived in' but thinking they may go nicely on either the Vantage or the Superlite.

Also bidding on some Shim 500 brakes, hopefully I'll win those & they can go to the same place the 600 gear goes to. Just have to find a "lived in" 600 D/T shifter & crank sets, before you all dive into your parts bins, I'm doing everything as long term projects now, being patient, buying stuff when I can pick it up cheaply.

I nearly bought a Suntour VX rear derailleur last night, I was going to wrap it & give it to Lochy next time I saw him, but 2 other knuckleheads decided at the last moment they had to have it & had a bidding war, what I thought was worth about US$20 went for US$63, this is what I'm not doing anymore, there isn't anything that I just have to have.

But that attitude made me miss a set of Campy Delta calipers, I didn't bid because I thought they'd go for the usual US$250-400 mark, blinking things went for US$122 & stupid me hadn't bid, I probably would have gone as high as US$150, oh well I don't really want a set anyway.

There was a full Campy Veloce brifter gruppo, the brifters were on the bars still (bar tape, cables & all), I had a shot at it, but it ended up US$450, if I had of got it cheap, I was going to fit it to the Raz frame & lend it to munga, I reckon he would have wanted to buy it, but it was too pricey for moi.

[Wazza]

Hi Guys,
King Arthur Tce(Brisbane Tennis Centre) will be closed from Boxing Day till the 6th of Jan due to the Brisbane International tennis tournament. Riverloop east for next Raturday?

Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!!!!

[Dan]

Hi Guys,
King Arthur Tce(Brisbane Tennis Centre) will be closed from Boxing Day till the 6th of Jan due to the Brisbane International tennis tournament. Riverloop east for next Raturday?

Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!!!!

That's just an excuse - they're actually closing it to clear all the 1" screws off the road.

[ldrcycles]

The Campagnolo Veloce front derailleur on my Oppy cost me 99c, I must have been the only person looking for a braze on that day.

[Zynster]

Veloce groupset, brand new from Ribble - $447.35

[Wal42]

Veloce groupset, brand new from Ribble - $447.35

Just my opinion, but that's about $350 plus postage dearer than I'd be prepared to pay for a late model Veloce gruppo.


So they may as well be a million bucks, because I wouldn't pay more than a hungie for it.

On the other hand at Lochy's derailleur price, I'd be interested.

Sram stuff I would pay even less than Campy, but hey obviously I love late model (in fact any model) sram road bike stuff.

[Zynster]

There was a full Campy Veloce brifter gruppo, the brifters were on the bars still (bar tape, cables & all), I had a shot at it, but it ended up US$450

Veloce groupset, brand new from Ribble - $447.35

Just my opinion, blah blah blah

Hey Wal. How about you remind us all again how you don't like brifters.

[Wal42]

Hey Wal. How about you remind us all again how you don't like brifters.

Moi Don't like brifters , have I ever said that I don't like brifters

Why I actually own 2 bikes that are fitted with brifters, I even ride one of them occasionally. If I didn't like brifters then why would I own 2 bikes (& I actually have a frame here that will be built with brifters, so that will be 3 bikes), I afraid you are wildly off the mark & are making disparaging statements about me. You've actually done them in a public forum which means I could commence legal proceedings, I could sue you for slander or defamation of character, should I feel seriously aggrieved, one should be a little cautious about what slanderous statements one makes in the public arena.


To set the facts straight, I prefer to not see brifters fitted to retro bikes. Why? I think I have already covered this numerous times (& feel that I don't need to raise it again), but each to their own, if someone prefers to use brifters on their retro bike, then that is their choice, if they were a good friend of mine (i.e. munga, dan, vaeske), then there may be some good natured stirring involved, but those guys know that they can dish it back to me as we are friends.


So no, I do not dislike brifters, do I prefer they remain on a modern frame, with my own bikes yes but I like bikes to look fairly period, but that is my own preference & opinion.

[Wazza]

Anyone up for an eastern river loop on Thursday? 5:30am West End?
Waz

[Wal42]

Anyone up for an eastern river loop on Thursday? 5:30am West End?
Waz

I'm out, I'll be at work.

[vaeske]

i'd be keen for a ride thursday mate.

[Zynster]

Hey Wal. How about you remind us all again how you don't like brifters.

Moi Don't like brifters , have I ever said that I don't like brifters

Why I actually own 2 bikes that are fitted with brifters, I even ride one of them occasionally. If I didn't like brifters then why would I own 2 bikes (& I actually have a frame here that will be built with brifters, so that will be 3 bikes), I afraid you are wildly off the mark & are making disparaging statements about me. You've actually done them in a public forum which means I could commence legal proceedings, I could sue you for slander or defamation of character, should I feel seriously aggrieved, one should be a little cautious about what slanderous statements one makes in the public arena.


To set the facts straight, I prefer to not see brifters fitted to retro bikes. Why? I think I have already covered this numerous times (& feel that I don't need to raise it again), but each to their own, if someone prefers to use brifters on their retro bike, then that is their choice, if they were a good friend of mine (i.e. munga, dan, vaeske), then there may be some good natured stirring involved, but those guys know that they can dish it back to me as we are friends.


So no, I do not dislike brifters, do I prefer they remain on a modern frame, with my own bikes yes but I like bikes to look fairly period, but that is my own preference & opinion.

It was intended as a bit of good natured stirring. However, there is nothing good natured about your response. In fact I find the threat of legal action to be incredibly hostile. I think I'll just ride my old steel bike with modern brifters off into the sunset. I'm obviously not welcome here.

[munga]

guys, this is no place to be airing personal grievances. if there's an issue, sort it out offline.

[Wal42]

Yeah, I'll take it totally offline, we have guys that can dish it out but can't take it back.

[vaeske]

come on chaps, lets be adults about this.

[Mulger bill]

Now then lads, a deep breath will go down nicely about now and negate the need for a bloke to go all unseasonable.

Shaun

[vaeske]

so wazza, about that ride tomorrow?

[Wazza]

If there's just us, do you want to start at Toombul and loop through Boondall to Sandgate, coffee, then back via Sandgate Rd?
Waz

[Shpox]

Can't make it tomorrow but was hoping to join you guys for a ride soon as soon as the rest of my kit arrives. I haven't had a chance to build something retro being one of those poor students, but I've been looking to build something from steel very soon.

Haven't had a chance to do a river loop before, but am hoping me and my alu roady would be welcome.