I saw somebody doing it on a Citycycle.elantra wrote:Enoggera hill (AKA Mt Enoggera) is Cat 3 Strava segment, 1.8 km, average grade= 9.8%. i presume that it is a 4WD track. I have never been up it.skull wrote:Haven't lived in brissy for a long while now but isn't mt cootha the one with the tv stations?
If it is then I think you guys are talking it up a bit. I would hardly call my self a climbing cyclist and had no issues riding there. I had no idea about different cassettes then and ran a 11-23 cassette on standards. Originally set bike up for triathlons.
My worst climb (and run) was enoggera hill. A bit hard for those not in the army to go up tho.
Not easy to get permission for that sort of thing these days.
You are right, Coottha is not that hard a climb, back in the 80's many would be doing it with 42x21 gear ratio.
Occasionally these days you do see someone doing it on a modern single speed.
A few yrs ago someone told me his dad did it on a singlespeed postie's bike back in the 1950's.
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70kg or something.winstonw wrote:Luke, not a stab at anyone in particular. I know several people who've suggested not braking at all until the 11th hour on Coot-tha front side are under 80kg. Just a reminder that handling and speed is different for heavier riders. I've seen two experienced 80+kg guys come within a bee's penls of killing themselves trying to stay with lighter guys when descending windy roads. Sub80kg guys who think I'm hysterical should don a 20kg backpack and tell us how it didn't make a diff!
Re motobikes, what's the weight of the heaviest guy that competes in MotoGP!!!
I've done the backside of glorious with 5 full water bottles, 4 snickers bars in the jersey, spares bag and I had no issues. It became a pain mid corner but that's expected with the weight over the rear . I only smashed that time when I did it on the propel in solo long distance config
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Postby cancan64 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:14 pm
Is there no law against this kind of timesinglespeedscott wrote:There's a guy I follow on Strava who's done a sub 9min up the back riding a fixed gear running a 49x16 ratio
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As for a decent climb, Paluma Range -18km/850m climb elevation - or Mt Stuart - 8km/630m climbbelevation with the last 300m at 26%(!) - were what I cut my teeth on and both Cat1 climbs. At 85kg I just always ground it out and challenged the pain to give it it's best shot. Coming down? Nope, the midgets always had me in the corners if hard braking was required. Straight sections meant they didn't stand a chance.
I do advise that when descending always hold back the first few times. !! BAN ME NOW FOR SWEARING !! it up and you're in rehab or worse. Stopping through lack of ability going up? Learning experience. Stopping from lack of ability coming back down? Let's not go there.
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Postby winstonw » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:23 pm
Some years ago, pre Strava, I rode socially with a 40 something who was doing low 7s on the backside. He made me feel like a total gumby.singlespeedscott wrote:There's a guy I follow on Strava who's done a sub 9min up the back riding a fixed gear running a 49x16 ratio
It was only after I realized he blitzed his age group and had success in some large road races that I understood what a freak he is.
Lukey, last time I went down the back of Glorious, I got down into the steep windy section, and not any further.....broken spoke. hitched home. I was very careful with the brakes too. did not brake suddenly and hard was easing the bike down very steadily, as I was using a set of SS's wheels and didn't know them well.
Five full water bottles? try 28.
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+1000. We might joke around at our braking points but we know how well our brakes perform. We know the layout of the road. We know what to expect. We can push the boundaries that little bit more. All because we have done it many times before.I do advise that when descending always hold back the first few times. courier it up and you're in rehab or worse.
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What do you say good members?jasonc wrote:can we merge this thread with the coot-tha training thread?
Could somebody link to the thread in question?
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http://www.bicycles.net.au/forums/viewt ... &start=575" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Mulger bill wrote:What do you say good members?jasonc wrote:can we merge this thread with the coot-tha training thread?
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except for luke, we're still waiting for him to mature, or is that me?Lukeyboy wrote:We're big boys and girls.
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Postby GeoffInBrisbane » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:58 pm
Other than that there isn't much to say about the climb. Go do it and have fun. If descending the back, go easy (some of the bends are decreasing radius). The front descent, as already noted, is fine as long as you don't drag the brakes all the way down. Personally having the dual disadvantages of low weight and an extremely unaerodynamic position on the bike (bad back), I have to pedal like buggery to keep up with most others rolling down there though, so others may have a different experience.
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Postby jasonc » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:16 pm
that's the only way I'd beat youGeoffInBrisbane wrote:Personally having the dual disadvantages of low weight and an extremely unaerodynamic position on the bike (bad back), I have to pedal like buggery to keep up with most others rolling down there though, so others may have a different experience.
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Postby Lukeyboy » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:21 pm
Why does everyone keep saying thatjasonc wrote:except for luke, we're still waiting for him to mature, or is that me?Lukeyboy wrote:We're big boys and girls.
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yeah - your 56 frame size is perfect luke. don't grow any moreGeoffInBrisbane wrote:Never mind maturity, just make sure you've stopped growing ya lanky bugger...
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Postby Dragster1 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:00 pm
Give it a go and then let us know what you think, I have ridden it many times even as a kid on bmx and I still managed to pass people with granny gears on road bikes. You just have to pace yourself and do it solo first time Good luckspirro wrote:My intention of starting this thread was I wanted a beginners guide on how to complete Mt Cootha. I felt the existing Mt Cootha thread was too advanced for a beginner who hasn't ridden it before.
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Postby Mulger bill » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:30 pm
Well Spirro, as the you're the op I'd like your opinion on whether you think it's worth staying as a stand alone guide to climbing Coot-Tha for beginners.spirro wrote:My intention of starting this thread was I wanted a beginners guide on how to complete Mt Cootha. I felt the existing Mt Cootha thread was too advanced for a beginner who hasn't ridden it before.
I can see merit in either course but if pushed for an opinion I feel that beginners (perhaps to forums as well )would be more likely to look for a Coot-Tha thread in QLD than the specialised training room. ~2c
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