Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby CycleSnail » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:07 pm

On the front page, right hand column ~"Perthnow" is conducting a poll on the one meter passing distance. The "nos" are in front. Go and vote! (and tell your friends ....)
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby Aushiker » Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:17 pm

Voted YES and shared it around ...

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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby roller » Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:15 pm

poll results are truly depressing.

1m?

it would appear that asking for 1m is like asking for a kidney.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby roller » Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:23 pm

perhaps we could relocate this thread to the general discussion page?

not neccessarily trying to gain more yes votes for the sake of it, just, er, . . . .well it is a general issue
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby Pushy » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:19 pm

I wonder if the no vote is high because some have cleared their cookies and voted several times? :twisted:
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby trailgumby » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:27 pm

What poll? Can;t see it.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby ColinOldnCranky » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:15 pm

trailgumby wrote:What poll? Can;t see it.

Neither can I.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby CycleSnail » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:24 pm

ColinOldnCranky wrote:
trailgumby wrote:What poll? Can;t see it.

Neither can I.


On the front page, right hand column (there are three columns) about on the second screen
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby waramatt » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:27 pm

Just voted (Yes).

Half way down right hand side before scrolling anywhere if that helps others find it.

Sad that No is leading. Agree 1m is not like asking for a kidney. :cry:
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby Red Rider » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:34 pm

I think the poll result so far illustrates that motorists don't understand the concept of safety on the road.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby waramatt » Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:43 pm

Red Rider wrote:I think the poll result so far illustrates that motorists don't understand the concept of safety on the road.


Or that regular PertNow readers are a skewed demographic? I'm always dubious about giving credence to polls. But it still saddens me, I'm just not sure why. :wink:
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby hotfoot » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:04 pm

Done...how about going to facebook and twitter and prompt your mates..I have
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby Mrfenejeans » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:26 pm

Red Rider wrote:I think the poll result so far illustrates that motorists don't understand the concept of safety on the road.


I think the poll illustrates how THICK the majority of readers of PerthNow are.


And obviously its editors/journalists

"Do you support moves to give cyclists get a 1m buffer zone from passing cars?"

What??
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby rolandp » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:29 pm

Done. 52% saying no, much better than the comments received on the original article where most of the comments where anti-cycling.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby roller » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:37 pm

waramatt wrote:
Red Rider wrote:I think the poll result so far illustrates that motorists don't understand the concept of safety on the road.


Or that regular PertNow readers are a skewed demographic? I'm always dubious about giving credence to polls. But it still saddens me, I'm just not sure why. :wink:


because even with a skewed demographic you realise that there's still a majority of people who would go to the trouble to say "no" to giving a cyclist 1m of room.

1m?!?!? it's nothing! not even an armspan.

that's how messed up and selfish a majority of people* are in this day and age.




*with internet access who visit the perthnow website and vote on polls

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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby rolandp » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:59 am

This poll is still active. When I voted it was at around 52%, now it is down to 50.7%, so going in the direction we want. Given that 2,792 people have said 'yes', can we present this as effidence to Minister of Transport, similar to what these guys via facebookdid for a after mid-night train costing $1M trial. Only happens in Perth.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby Ozkaban » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:24 am

The rather depressing thing I've just noticed is that the poll is off the front page, but the headline story is of the cyclist who was killed in a hit and run... :( :(
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby AndyyK » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:40 am

It just goes to show how dangerous it is on Australian roads. I presume the people that are clicking 'No' drive cars on these roads.

If they saw a pedestrian on the road (which happens pretty regularly, one thing I realised when first moving here was, there's not always footpaths in suburban areas) would they not give them any room either?
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby blkmcs » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:05 am

AndyyK wrote:It just goes to show how dangerous it is on Australian roads. I presume the people that are clicking 'No' drive cars on these roads.

If they saw a pedestrian on the road (which happens pretty regularly, one thing I realised when first moving here was, there's not always footpaths in suburban areas) would they not give them any room either?

Of course drivers give pedestrians space and every day thousands of drivers overtake cyclists at a safe distance.

The tragic death in Cottesloe last night would not have been prevented by a 1 metre passing law or even a 2 metre passing law.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby CycleSnail » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:37 am

I am asking the same question on the Facebook page of the Bicycle Transport Alliance. Go and vote and share.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby Ozkaban » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:29 pm

blkmcs wrote:The tragic death in Cottesloe last night would not have been prevented by a 1 metre passing law or even a 2 metre passing law.


I hope I didn't give the impression that I thought it would have prevented it. I just saw the depressing link between a survey where it seems that a lot of motorists couldn't care less about cyclists safety being gone, but the tragic news being there instead.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby Aushiker » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:22 pm

Bicycling Western Australia has discovered the issue (sorry for being cynical) and has now posted a survey on the matter of safe passing. You can find it at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/bwamarch2012

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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby rolandp » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:18 pm

PerthNow Poll is closed, results being
Do you support moves to give cyclists get a 1m buffer zone from passing cars?
Yes 45.74% (2993 votes)
No 50.38% (3297 votes)
Don't Know 3.88% (254 votes)

Total votes: 6544

Completed the BWA survey, but as it was only sent onto cyclists, it may be a little biased.

Good results on the PerthNow Poll.
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby Baalzamon » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:40 pm

I actually voted more than once on that poll :mrgreen:
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Re: Poll on one meter passing distance - go and vote!

Postby CycleSnail » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:13 am

rolandp wrote:
Completed the BWA survey, but as it was only sent onto cyclists, it may be a little biased.

Good results on the PerthNow Poll.


... gee, what about the survey on theBicycle Transport Alliance Facebook page?
35 said yes to one or 1.5 metres, 1 said no (and it is worthwhile to have a look at that person's homepage)
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