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Like any road, a shared path does require regular maintenance. The history of maintenance of two sections of the principle shared path, which one section follows the Mitchell Freeway – Perth, are shown in this article which I have just posted on the BTA website.
These sections have several large cracks, have been reported but remain an issue.
The WA Bike Network Plan does not provide funding for maintenance. Given that there are sections of the principle shared path which are not being maintained correctly, where will the funds come from to repair these sections?
Simple answer to the question ... no.
Keep up the good work Roland
Proudly "a bleeding heart with too much spare time on his hands"
I also have a bone to pick with the City of Stirling, so many of the cycle path/dual use paths are littered with glass, plus the roads themselves are littered with junk...bits of rubble from building or demolition, drink bottles, cans...etc... It is especially bad here in the Balga, Mirrabooka, Nollamarra area...its so bad it even worries me in my stink box. OK we have a bad name but for heavens sake, we pay our ates etc..and deserve the same service the rest of Stirling is given
Heard back from Minister of Transport today:
Glad to see it is under control, as I thought it would be Main Roads who was responible for the maintenance and should be explaining how these sections of the PSP got into this condition.
Let's see what Department of Transport will respond with.
Mitchell Fwy PSP is particularly bad, poor planning and engineering, and as you note, maintenance is just a patch-up that will cost again soon. The section along Britannia Road Reserve feels like riding a bucking bull.
As Main Roads comes under DoT, maybe DoT is taking more direct control of any issues raised, hopefully expediting the resolution.
I don't see why they themselves shouldn't be responsible for monitoring the condition of our network, a thorough check once a year would be sufficient, then implement a maintenance program to fix it.
Principal. If this is going to govt.
Amateur oenologist and green-friendly commuter.
Does anyone know what is going to happen to the southern PSP from the city to Canning Bridge? A couple of months it looked as if they were planning to re-seal it; the edges and cracks got fixed etc. Is it actually going to happen?
The edges were being maintained due to vehicles using it to reseal sections of the Freeway. But I think someone on here wrote that they will also reseal/widen the PSP, which will be done 'next financial year'. That needs verification.
I recieved a response from Director General Department of Transport. Response available on BTA Website.
"As we continue to implement the WA Bicycle Network Plan 2012-2021"
This is still out for consultation isn't it? So are DoT going to implement the Plan and ignore the consultation process?
Oh that reminds me. Baldivis way or further south there are some cracks along it and there is a sign... BUT that sign was there when I was down there in January so NO not enough is being done
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Paying respect for Roland's efforts again, I was thinking on last night's wet dark cycle home about how an insignificant obstacle/hazard during dry daylight you don't give a passing thought to, can become a bone breaker or worse in peak hour winter commuting... yet we are all looking and debating predominately dry daylight photos.
Most will cop the dark early or late, lights do well in the dry, but reflections of light on the wet surfaces, that are so inconsistent with type, lighting, debris, large puddles sitting water etc. you do get used to it.
Add dark, wet, and more immediately threatening traffic distractions... for a new rider to the area it can be a horror show not knowing and anticipating all those hazards. Watching Roland's efforts its clear some things he's tracking move slower than Death (3kph I heard?) so would suggest avoiding dark/wet/unfamiliar territory.
Old news but it's the season for having it at the front of your mind in lieu of the infrastructure maintenance improving. Piles of wet leaves and metal manhole covers gave me a quick refresher yesterday.
Last edited by eldavo on Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Got the below late today:
The Cycling and Pedestrian Co-ordinator has investigated the section of Principle Shared Path (PSP) north of Karrinyup Road and it has been determined that the surface is not a maintenance issue but a new path would be required. This section of PSP has already been identified as a priority in the WA Bicycle Network Plan 2012 – 2021 with the ultimate alignment for a new PSP through that section being on the east side of the Mitchell Freeway.
Office of the Director General
Department of Transport
Just glanced through the WA Bicycle Plan, and this section is not indicated. So exactly when will it be addressed? Responses are due in by 17 June 2012, and this will be included in my response.
Roland time to put your Maxwell Smart voice on
"Aaah, the old non-existent reference to a future plan trick... it always gets me Ninety-Nine."
Back in July 2012, I used my phone and PotHole Agent app to track the condition of the shared path - additional details on BTA's website for more details.
The data looked like this:
where the larger the number, the larger the bump. The numbers may not be showing up in the above, so use this link to get to this Google Map.
Now I filter out the smaller bumps (rated as 1-2) otherwise there was too much data to show. I also captured the data over 3-4 days.
12 months on, and I pulled out the Pothole Agent App to see what it looked like now:
Google Map link
The latest data is only for a proportion of one of my commutes home, and the numbers are now a lot higher (ie in the 7-8 range, which means there are now some very large bumps we are riding on).
The app is now collecting so many more 'bumps' that the file generated is now too large to get off the phone (and why I only have a proportion of my commute home).
Again I'm filtering the data on the desktop to remove the 1-2 bumps.
I've shared these maps with Main Roads last night, so hopefully they will provide a response soon.
Anyone else seeing the condition of the Northern PSP getting worst with tree roots/cracks etc?
The section of PSP from Canning Bridge to Mt Henry is definitely getting worse also.
Several blind corners and pedestrians insisting on wearing all black with no lights = recipe for disaster.
I can't imagine anyone giving it clearer lines of sight as it is an accessible bush environment that many in the community would not accept the loss of. Whether it suits or not, cyclists need to ride as though ther are lots of dumb peds. Dumb peds need to smarten up and take their own safety as responsibly as they expect cyclists to. (A nog light is not expensive and the batteries last and last.)
But yes, it is not a great example of what we need and there are too many ninja peds in winter.
As an aside, anyone riding that route after storms should be aware that there are a couple of places where the path is unexpectedly covered with a thick carpet of weed and harder hazards and largely un-seeable when dark at speed. If you ahve not experienced it yet you will understand when you do.
Unicyclist's don't need a training wheel
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